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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:06 AM
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‘You lie’ Wilson shows two faces on illegal immigration
Source: Raw Story

The anti-illegal immigration movement is singing Congressman Joe Wilson’s praises, but the lawmaker who was rebuked by the House this week recently helped extend the stay of one of those very “illegals” the activists hope to remove from the country.

Hundreds of illegal immigration opponents are gathering in Washington right now for the annual Federation for Immigration Reform (FAIR) effort to lobby Congress for tighter border controls and other policies designed to keep undocumented immigrants out of the U.S.

This year, they’re making Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, their new poster boy after he famously shouted “You lie!” during President Obama’s speech on healthcare reform last week. Wilson’s outbust occurred as Obama was saying he has no intention of giving illegal immigrants access to health care benefits in his reform plan, and CNN personality and avowed anti-illegal immigration crusader Lou Dobbs is giving Wilson “great credit” for advancing the cause, per The Washington Independent and Politics Daily.

Wilson may have a conflict of interest, however. Two months before he heckled Obama, he introduced legislation to keep Sainey Fatty, an illegal immigrant from Gambia, in the country. Fatty came to the U.S. for school in the early ’90s and lived here for seven years while under a deportation order, according to his friend Bill Cook’s blog.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/18/you-lie-wilson-shows-two-faces-on-illegal-immigration/



Much more at the link...

-Diane
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:11 AM
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1. Word to everyone worrying about Masschusetts "flip flopping" on appointing
someone to fill a vacant Senate seat.

In a Repulican's eyes, "flip flops" are fine if a Republican does them and heinous if a Democrat does them.

Will we ever learn just to do the right thing without even thinking about how Republicans characterize it or might characterize it?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:36 AM
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2. From NPR's "Tell Me More" regarding the movement to sack Lou Dobbs.
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 09:37 AM by pampango
"DEL BARCO: The immigration debate is a staple of conservative talk radio. More than 40 conservative radio hosts came to Washington this week, pressuring Congress to deny undocumented immigrants health care coverage. CNN anchor Lou Dobbs was among those holding their feet to the fire. ...There's now a movement against Dobbs, anti-illegal immigration messages. Critics say he promotes hate speech. Supporters say he has a right to say what he wants. Here to talk about that debate is Roberto Lovato, a journalist and activist campaigning to get Lou Dobbs off the air. It's a campaign called "Basta Dobbs" or Enough Dobbs. Also, Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. His group sponsored this week's radiothon song, and Rick Rodriguez, a journalism professor at Arizona State University."

"Mr. MEHLMAN: You know, the only hate I'm noticing is the people who defend illegal immigration attacking the people who want our immigration laws enforced and saying that any criticism of immigration policy, any criticism of illegal immigration is tantamount to attack against immigrants or Latinos. And that's simply not true. Again, we are not focusing on any particular ethnic group here, we are focusing on whether active coming to the country illegally harms Americans."

"Mr. LOVATO: Look, to the people that have been talking about this for some time. And most recently, people like a gentleman named President Barack Obama, who last year said and I'll quote, "a certain segment was basically feeding a kind of xenophobia. There's a reason why hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year," Obama said. If you have people like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh ginning things up, it's not surprising that that would happen."

"Mr. LOVATO: Our concerns were on the gamut there. And - and if you look at Lou Dobbs' program regularly, as we have, and you analyze it - as many other groups have as well for many years- there's a very clear case against him in turns of three points. First, the fact that he obsesses more than anyone else in media. The organization Media Matters, for example, had a study that showed that from January to July, Lou Dobbs' show had 77 out of 140 of discussion hours about "illegal aliens," quote, unquote.

And secondly, he regularly and systematically lies about immigrants, especially Latino immigrants who he's accused of everything from having caused 7,000 cases of leprosies, despite the fact that The Center for Disease Control always have shown that this is just, you know, (unintelligible) or that Latinos under that immigrants - undocumented immigrants constitute a third of the prison system in the U.S. something the Department of Justice has denied.

So, the most dangerous thing, however, is that he uses his show as a platform for groups that promote extremist views, and groups that are themselves extreme and even violent if you look at, say, the Minutemen, whose members in Arizona killed nine-year-old Brisenia Flores and Shawna Forde, the member of the Minutemen has also been affiliated with the group FAIR…

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112916519

edit to post link.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:53 AM
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3. Exclusive: 'You lie' Wilson kept illegal immigrant in the US
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 09:54 AM by kpete
Source: Raw Story

‘You lie’ Wilson shows two faces on illegal immigration
By Kathleen Miller

Published: September 18, 2009

The anti-illegal immigration movement is singing Congressman Joe Wilson’s praises, but the lawmaker who was rebuked by the House this week recently helped extend the stay of one of those very “illegals” the activists hope to remove from the country.

...............................

This year, they’re making Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, their new poster boy after he famously shouted “You lie!” during President Obama’s speech on healthcare reform last week. Wilson’s outbust occurred as Obama was saying he has no intention of giving illegal immigrants access to health care benefits in his reform plan, and CNN personality and avowed anti-illegal immigration crusader Lou Dobbs is giving Wilson “great credit” for advancing the cause, per The Washington Independent and Politics Daily.

Wilson may have a conflict of interest, however. Two months before he heckled Obama, he introduced legislation to keep Sainey Fatty, an illegal immigrant from Gambia, in the country. Fatty came to the U.S. for school in the early ’90s and lived here for seven years while under a deportation order, according to his friend Bill Cook’s blog.

In his bill, Wilson asks Congress to forgive Fatty’s immigration woes, drop the deportation order against Fatty and allow him to remain in the country legally.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/18/you-lie-wilson-shows-two-faces-on-illegal-immigration/
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:53 AM
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4. When the dumbasses find out he did something nice for an immigrant
He's in deep doo doo.

Looks like his 15 minutes is just about over.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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5. "Fatty is allegedly a Christian convert who abandoned his Muslim roots"
For the rest of you who were scratching your heads.

Too bad, Mexicans, you're only welcome in this country if you're able to repent your Muslim faith.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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6. LOL, it might be worth having a look at freeperville to see how they handle this one.
There'll be many exploding heads, no doubt.

:rofl:

BIG K & R
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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7. At least this is original.
Most Republicans who are outed for keeping undocumented immigrants in the country were employing them as maids and gardeners.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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8. well... he and his mastas like cheap labor
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Louisiana1976 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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9. Excellent post! Shows a typical example of wingnut hypocrisy.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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10. So Addison Graves Wilson helped an illegal immigrant stay in this country
He'll still make damn sure that Mr. Fatty doesn't get any health coverage.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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11. Hey, it's OK: Wilson didn't provide any health coverage.
;-)
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:54 AM
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12. Lou Blobbs just shit his pants. n/t
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