Today's Angry White Paranoid Loser Story

[Zomby Woof]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,4937225.story

Where to begin?

Excerpts:

'One of his best friends is a black guy.'

'The family's health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won't be looking for some big solution from Washington.'

"Socialized healthcare. . . . It's not the government's responsibility to ensure that I'm insured."


I bet this idiot is collecting unemployment and his insurance is through COBRA (although if it expires after a year, he may have taken a sucker deal from Alcoa as part of his severance - I believe COBRA lasts longer). Too much skepticism of government, and not enough in "free enterprise".

Is his wife's life worth the alleged "freedom" he believes is afforded him by no government involvement in healthcare?

I guess so. What a sorry, ignorant, paranoid fuck.

Per DU rules, here is a 4-paragraph limited excerpt:

He's a gun owner, and he frets about Democrats' commitment to gun rights. He takes in his share of Fox News and right-wing radio, but not uncritically: He suspects Beck, who has fomented so much anti-Obama protest, to be a "patriot for profit" who is mostly in it for the book deals.

About 45 minutes before the chapter meeting, Cardwell had pulled his black Dodge pickup into the Town Hall parking lot. He affixed a big vinyl Oath Keepers sign -- one he'd paid for himself -- to the tailgate, and waited like a Realtor at an open house.

Cardwell had voted for Republican John McCain as the lesser of two evils. But he doesn't see himself as much of a party man. The individualist streak in him, he said, goes a long way to explaining his belief in limited government. It is an outgrowth of the pioneering spirit that helped the Scots-Irish settle the rugged mountains of Tennessee -- a spirit, he said, of "leave us the hell alone, we don't need your help."

For most of his life, he kept his opinions to himself. He was too busy to get too involved in politics. There were kids to raise, Little League to coach, and an education to be earned -- not just at college, where he received a two-year computer science degree, but in various jobs, from roofer to salesman to Marine Corps sniper.

-end of excerpt-

One more comment: He is right about Glenn Beck, a la the stopped clock analogy. But that's about as much credit as you can give this delusional clown.

[Louisiana1976]

1. If that guy isn't a wingnut loser I don't know what he is. Excellent piece!

[tularetom]

2. Asshole was born with a head start on a whole lot of people

and he still managed to fuck it up.

Since he's so independent let him find a way to pay for his wife's health care.

He might even have to sell his big pick em up.

Or his guns.

I'm really tired of assholes like this and their bullshit "pride". This dork has nothing to be proud of. He's indeed a loser.

[sui generis]

3. I actually agree on one of those statements

It is not the government's responsibility to ensure that I'm insured.

It IS the government's responsibility to look out for our shared resources, public safety and welfare (and I believe that includes health), and our economic interests at the intersection of our geographical borders with the rest of the world.

To that end, if we had never started down the mandatory insurance path we would not be having this discussion with dim-bulb middle america.

Public option needs to be a tax-funded agency, period. Opt in or don't. Pay in or don't. Get your healthcare or don't. Screw insurance language, risk pools, premium, hazard and actuary - it simply does not belong in a not-for-profit healthcare delivery mechanism.

Insurance will fail as long as we insist that it behave like insurance, and that's a certain solemn promise. We're setting ourselves up to fail by not looking at reality: there are 50 million people without insurance, some of whom will require healthcare this year. Let's start by taking care of that problem FIRST. Then let's build on that.

[donco6]

4. Thank God my ancestors left Eastern Tennessee

It being the cradle of great thought, economic power and overall Nirvana-ness that it is. I'm so glad they've turned that "leave-us-the-hell-alone" philosophy into such a Utopia.

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[donco6]

10. Whatever. n/t

[Zomby Woof]

9. My ancestors were from middle TN

Right up through my dad (I was born elsewhere due to his military service).

Not all of them were kneejerk in opposition to the government throughout their history. My great-great-grandfather was a supervisor during the construction of the dams for the TVA during the Depression. He was in his 70's then, but needed the work, and wasn't in a frame of mind to reject the government's efforts in that region. I would say the best word to describe my TN ancestors (Scots-Irish, English, French, and Cherokee) is 'contrarian'. The guy in this story is contrarian to a fault, however, shooting himself in the foot.

[Kalyke]

5. I live in Knoxville and have never heard of this group.

Must not be very big.

More media expanding on small groups of people and touting them as important as the clear majority, if you ask me.

[charlie]

7. Same old story

I'm fucking sick of these assholes who lecture us about fire safety after the country has burned to the ground. In an EIGHT YEAR slow burn. He was too busy for politics, yeah right. The bootlicking putz would still be "too busy" if this was Dubya's third term.

[bluescribbler]

8. You're right about COBRA

You get eighteen months of coverage, providing, of course, that you pay the premiums on time. Miss one payment, and they drop you like a hot potato.

[Zomby Woof]

11. Yes, 18 months

Plus, the stimulus package passed after Obama became president grants an 80% discount on premiums if you were laid off from December 2008 through the end of this year.

If Alcoa is paying for his coverage for 12 months, great - but after that? He will be worse off with no coverage or paying for coverage completely on his own - provided that his wife's cancer doesn't keep private insurers from rejecting him.

[noiretextatique]

12. why weren't they "defending the constitution"

when cheney/bush, inc were shredding it and using it for toilet paper? :nopity:

[Zomby Woof]

16. He was busy coachin' Little League doncha know?

That takes up a lot of time. Year round. 24 hours a day.

Time is something his little mind has too much of these days.


(Are you the former noiretblu? If so - hey! :hi: )

[noiretextatique]

18. woof

:hi: it's me. how the hell are you?

[Zomby Woof]

20. Surviving in the South Bay!

Which is about all we can do, lol. :hi: Always good to see a classic veteran DUer!

[Brewman_Jax]

13. There was no problem

while Bush and the repugs were office, eh? :puke: These anti-government idiots always hate the government--until they need some help from the government.

[madmom]

14. If his concern started under the bush regime, why was he silent till now?

I for some reason don't believe him.:nopity:

[hfojvt]

15. where to begin indeed

Your arrogant hostility does not become you, Mr. Woof.

Although I see you've gotten a few people to join your little hatefest.

This is how we make the world better, eh? The world is full of hate. Pass it on.

[Zomby Woof]

17. You sound like the enablers in the media

We liberals are "arrogant" and "hostile" because we speak out against these dangerous cretins - the teabaggers, the astroturfers, etc. How dare we? These are patriots and the disenfranchised exercisin' their freeeee-dumbs! So fuck calling them out for what they are. Let's give them a hug while they kick us in the collective groins.

Damn right I hate: I hate ignorance, and I hate people who like getting fucked in the ass and want to drag us down with them in their cesspool of ignorance and stupidity. The world will be better if we confront these fucking douchebags head-on.

But if you want to enable their legitimacy the way the media does, be my guest.

[hfojvt]

19. what I refuse to enable

is your own hostility and arrogance. Both are apparent in your OP and your reply here.

If you hate ignorance, it would seem that the antidote to that is information, not expletives and hostility. Before they care what you know, they have to know that you care.