Ya know, these computer cameras are so small that

[PCIntern]

who knows what's being taped in whose room when?

When we were young, in college or wherever, the odds of being taped or filmed were essentially zero...someone might get a single shot, but cameras were so loud that if someone were hiding in the closet, you'd hear the shutter click even over the loudest orgasmic yell.

But NOW, someone could have a pinhole-sized opening anywhere in the room(s) and you'll be all over the Internet before you can even shower.

I'm not sure this technology's so hot...

Please allow me to state that I'm pleased that the story turned out to be one involving false accusations, and that the idiotic decision to film the proceedings did have a 'good' outcome...well, I guess that's the best word for it...beneficial? No... Lucky? Yes...that's better.

On edit: whoever unrec'd this...well, you know.

[BlooInBloo]

1. Unrec'd because you whined about getting unrec'd. Harden the fuck up.

[PCIntern]

2. Nice language, very erudite...

another precinct heard from...

perhaps if YOU softened the f--k up, you'd be more successful in life...

On edit: what did I ever do to YOU Bloo?

[BlooInBloo]

6. I can't take credit for it, actually....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmXri8ZCKjc

Been making the rounds for the last month or so.

:rofl:

[PCIntern]

8. In that case I'll quote our Secretary of State:

"Okie-dokie, artichokie"

Thanks for the tip!!!

[John1956PA]

12. Thanks for the video link. This is the first time I heard of that catch phrase or that comic. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

40. I know absolutely nothing about him beyond that video...

Very likely a Dice Clay-style asshole.

But that one video snippet is pretty damn funny.

[John1956PA]

42. He reminds me of a chunky Christian Bale, who is no stranger to the "F" word either. n/t

[Juche]

3. K&R

Yeah, it is an issue. And once something is online, other people can download it and that is the end of your control over it.

Makes you wonder what psychological impact it'll have on all the 5 year old kids who will grow up never knowing a world where that wasn't the case. Even personal conversations with a friend could be used against you years down the road if they record one on an MP3 player or cell phone.

[anigbrowl]

20. That's been a problem since the invention of writing

I mean, back in the old days, you'd say something to a friend, if he decided to chisel it into a piece of marble you'd hear his hammer tap-tapping away. But now with these inks and parchment, you can't really tell when someone is scribbling down your every utterance.

[Juche]

37. Wait until we have phony voice technology

Thats going to be awkward for revenge purposes. You will be able to use a voice synthesizer made to sound like someone else's voice, and then put words into it. Then post them online.

I think the military has had the ability to do that since the 90s.

[anigbrowl]

46. Yawn...*I* have the ability to do that

The military has no special advantage in this area of signal processing. It just depends how much time you want to devote to it, the principals are relatively simple. Enjoy your technophobia, though.

[Juche]

48. I'm not a technophobe

Enjoy your dickishness though.

[anigbrowl]

50. You sure sound like one

If this is not the case, I apologize. But generally when I hear people saying the military/CIA have special secret technology to be paranoid about, it exhibits both misunderstanding and fear of technology.

Honestly, if you're the military and you want to make fake audio recordings of someone, it's not hard to just get hold of an actor. There are unique components to human voices called formants (which are just frequencies that stand out because of the individual shape of your vocal cords etc.) but they're not impossibly to imitate or conceal...and the military has zero advantage in this area, because everyone has a voice, microphones are cheap and widely available, and audio analysis software is also cheap and widely available. There's nothing very advanced about the maths or physics involved.

[armyowalgreens]

4. I uncrec'd it because I hate it when people get all oogabooga about new technology.

[PCIntern]

7. Oh really...

didn't you ever read "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine", printed in 1958 or so?

this is not news...

[armyowalgreens]

9. I am way too young to have a clue what you are talking about.

There is a difference between presenting potential consequences of technology and making the suggestion that the technology is not worth the consequences.

[PCIntern]

10. It's an allusion...

innovation leads invariably to abuse...that's not to say that you and I wouldn't be communicating if there weren't new technology, it's just that SOMETIMES, it can be a problem..

And I'm not a Luddite...

[armyowalgreens]

13. Luddites destroyed technology because it was putting them out of work.

You seem to simply be afraid of it.

There will inevitably be consequences for all new technology. It's unavoidable.

Web cams are extremely useful. I use mine all the time.

[PCIntern]

17. Oh just give me a break...

How TF do you have any idea at all whatsoever what I think? I made a comment about small cameras and their potential to wreak havoc. DON'T YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO WREAK HAVOC?

I wasn't condemning technology...and what I would suggest to you, young person, is go and find the children's book I referred to in the other post and read it and then you might understand how technology, even in the fifties, was interestingly portrayed as potentially deleterious to certain people WHEN IT FELL INTO THE WRONG HANDS, or was used in a manipulative fashion.

Or do you just automatically gainsay anything which people post???

[armyowalgreens]

21. "I'm not sure this technology's so hot"

That's how I know that you are suggesting that this technology isn't worth it.

Many things have the potential to wreak havoc. I can remotely access almost any computer on the planet if I know a password and the IP address. That doesn't make remote-access a bad thing. It just means that people can abuse it.


I've read plenty of material on the potential hazards of technological advancement. Of course the epitome of the criticism is technological singularity.

[PCIntern]

22. It was a statement made in semi-jest...

first of all, get a sensayuma...second of all, I bet if your kid wound up with someone's balls banging her chin - and I'm not referring to tennis - on the Internet, you wouldn't be so happy with all this all of a sudden.

[armyowalgreens]

24. It's very hard to sense humor over the internet.

If my kid showed up on the internet in a video taped orgy, I'd probably be angry with his or her choice of friends/drinking partners. I wouldn't freak out and start disliking webcams.

[PCIntern]

26. Uh-huh...

I bet.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. You have a kid?

[armyowalgreens]

36. No.

[Name removed]

31. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[PCIntern]

34. that's just rotten...

and ad hominem attack like that is beneath even you.

[Ghost in the Machine]

25. "I can remotely access almost any computer on the planet if I know a password and the IP address"

Amateur! :rofl:

That's why they make password crackers, IP sniffers & port scanners... not mention brute force attackers or a little program called "cain and abel"...

:shh:

[armyowalgreens]

27. noob. I am God. I know all passwords and IPs.

[Ghost in the Machine]

33. but r u L33t?

:hi:

[armyowalgreens]

35. 1 4m $0 £337 ¥0

[tbyg52]

18. Just to add something positive....

OMG, I had not thought about that book in *years*, and I loved it! My mom was in the habit of giving away my stuff as soon as she decided I had outgrown it (mentally or physically), so I am off to the internets to seek a new copy.

Edited to add:

Also reminded me of the "Mudhen" books, and The Worldly Adventures of a Teenage Tycoon (that one was depressing in a lot of respects, though, IIRC).

[PCIntern]

19. also: Danny Dunn and the anti-Gravity Paint n/t

[izquierdista]

5. I gave myself a colonoscopy when I sat down??

[MiniMe]

11. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

:shrug:

[PCIntern]

14. the supposed gang rape...

which turned out not to be true - one of the guys recorded the whole thing...the one that's all over DU...sorry...

[RB TexLa]

15. Just more "technology is bad, I don't like advancement"

[Tangerine LaBamba]

16. There's an issue -

no need to have anything real to whine about.

Sometimes the point is just to whine.

Like, sometimes, when you've had too much to drink, it just feels better to puke and get it over with. Or so I've heard.

In the meantime, this thread is very funny..............

[DainBramaged]

23. Like the man said, some people need to harden the fuck up.....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hi:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

29. No kidding...............

[PCIntern]

32. It's true...

you take criticism REALLY well on the boards...

:sarcasm: or not...you make the call....

[Make7]

28. Perhaps this technology saved some people from prison sentences.

Maybe that's something positive to take away from this particular incident.

[rrneck]

38. Outlaw tiny cameras and only voyeurs will have them. nt

[TxRider]

39. Don't do things you wouldn't want taped.. simple.

[PCIntern]

41. Ok...

No sex, no undressing to change, no nose-picking, no farting...

wotta life!

[TxRider]

52. If ya wanna come tape me farting, having sex or spanking the monkey

Be my guest.

It's not like it would be an out of the ordinary thing to see on the net these days.

[FarCenter]

43. Lots of laptops have cameras at the top of the display

The only way to be sure that a Trojan software on your laptop is not broadcasting your picture out over the network connection is to physically block the lens. Duct tape will do the trick.

[PCIntern]

45. Ed Zachary!!

You are Correct!

Some here would have us believe that there is no down side to all this advanced tech stuff, and that we're wasting our precious time worrying about this issue. Basically it's a Republican: "You're either with us or against us argument". I say: BS on that. If you recall, the original ads for phones which took pics were of a young lady taking a snap of another gal's boyfriend pigging out at a restaurant and sending it to her. Great...just great.

[anigbrowl]

51. No, that is not the only way to be sure. That's the only way for you to be sure.

I actually know how my computer works, thanks.

[Thickasabrick]

44. I'm always creeped out when I have to travel - would be so easy

for hotel perverts to hook something up in rooms. For people who say just don't do anything you wouldn't want filmed, things like getting dressed, showering, etc aren't optional for some of us.

[Liberal_in_LA]

47. I 'rec'd' you back to zero. Don't know what's up with these 'unrecs'

[rug]

49. Watch out, they can implant one in a uvula now.

[seabeyond]

53. anyone that shows no concern for another being filmed without their knowledge

are the ones i trust the least

first clue in.