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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:16 AM
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umm...OK so who lets criminally insane killers go to the county fair on a field trip?
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 12:16 AM by ddeclue
who is running Spokane WA law enforcement? Commissioner Gordon?

Yes in Washington state they apparently let the Penguin out of the mental hospital to go to the county fair...

:eyes:

They let 31 criminally insane patients in the mental hospital go to the county fair - one escaped, a killer who was found not guilty by reason of mental defect.

Does this sound like a good person to let ride the ferris wheel with the general public?

:eyes:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:22 AM
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1. Someone who watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
on an odd note, didn't that movie take place in Spokane, Washington?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:24 AM
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2. Doesn't the guy who shot Reagan get out for trip home with the folks?
The lady who drowned all 4 kids in the bathtub, is she out or gonna be out soon?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:25 AM
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4. Five kids.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:32 AM
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7. wow...forgot. thanks
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:25 AM
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3. That's why I am against "not guilty by reason of insanity" verdicts.
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 12:26 AM by LisaL
You know what's gonna happen-the patient is placed into a hospital, some years down the road the hospital is going to decide the patient is all well and good, take the patient on field trips, etc.
Now, what's this guy gonna do after his medications wear off? I am afraid we will find out soon enough.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:26 AM
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5. I don't have a problem with insanity pleas but come on folks...
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 12:27 AM by ddeclue
you don't let these people go on field trips.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:27 AM
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6. I have a problem with insanity pleas because
our laws don't demand these people remain locked up safely.
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FreeDemocrat Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 09:09 AM
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20. You have to be really crazy to do Insanity defense
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 09:13 AM by FreeDemocrat
Wow the empathy and thoughtfulness on this thread is amazing, almost Republican.

The prisons are full of the mentally ill, even those not violent are still a lot more likely to run afoul of the law because they cannot act or think reasonably in tough situations. Some states don't even have a public mental hospital to put them in, and those that do seriously underfund them. As a result very few insanity defenses are attempted and fewer still succeed.

Of those that do succeed, most make it because the person is no threat to others. The classic case (and there are unfortunately many)is where a woman in a fit of religious extremism and depression kills her children (usually trying to kill herself as well). The crime is terrible and usually the insanity defense doesn't even work, but the woman is no threat to others even if released.

Taking such a large group to such an uncontrolled situation, is certainly a lapse in judgment for many reasons, but the vision of a mass of "Freddy Krugers" randomly killing in a state fair horror film is not among them (though perhaps allowing that picture to be painted is)
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:42 AM
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8. They must be having second thoughts about that now. nt
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:03 AM
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12. LOL! Funniest comment I've read all night!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:46 AM
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9. Chan790 predicted this thread.
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:48 AM
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10. WA is so lax- they let people go who have 20 dui charges
this guy has escaped before from a field trip. He attacked a guard that time. He also gets day passes.
He cut the throat of an older lady that was gardening ans set her on fire because he she was a witch.
The "doctors" there and I use the term loosely have been wanting to release him. They think he's cured.
Sort of like the ones at prisons that want to let child molesters go cuz they have been such good prisoners.
His stated reason for wanting out is to return to the very small town where commited the crime and have a farm.
I don't even want to get into the rationale for taking the criminally insane to places like fairs.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 03:43 AM
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17. Of course he's cured. Sounds just like a Republican.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:58 AM
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11. double the excitement-ride the roller coaster with an insane killer
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:27 AM
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13. Sounds like a Hitchcock plot!
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:40 AM
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14. The carnival that gets no repeat business 'cause everyone ends up dead.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:54 AM
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15. Social workers and psychologists, that's who!!!!
Somebody musta skipped class on "Keeping the Criminally Insane away from the Public" day.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 03:34 AM
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16. Probably NOT carnival workers though...
:rofl:
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 04:18 AM
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19. Oh Damn.....just Damn!
:fistbump:

"Dude, let us handle the scary shit, we're professionals."
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 03:55 AM
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18. I'm sorry, but I highly doubt Commissioner Gordon is that incompetent.
Gordon is doing the best he can with the situation he is in with a city that is literally populated with mentally unstable individuals.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:22 PM
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22. Gordon always seemed so easy to fool and so willing to trust that the bad guys would play fair.
:D
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 09:14 AM
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21. They let bush run free.
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