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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:00 PM
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Want to read all about it online? It may cost you
Want to read all about it online? It may cost you
By MICHAEL LIEDTKE Associated Press Writer


Sep 20th, 2009 | SAN FRANCISCO -- With their advertising revenue drying up, newspaper publishers spent much of the spring and summer debating whether to cut off free online access to some of the material they run in their shrinking print editions.

It looks like the talk will turn to action this fall, when some large newspapers are expected to put up Internet toll booths.

They'll be testing readers' willingness to pay for information and entertainment that mostly has been given away online for the past 15 years. That happened largely because most publishers could afford to subsidize their Web sites with profits from their print franchises. But now those profits have crumbled, just as the prices for online ads are tumbling, too.

A recent study by the American Press Institute found 58 percent of the responding newspapers are considering online fees. Of that group, 22 percent expect to introduce the fee before the end of the year. The findings drew upon 118 interviews of newspaper executives in the U.S. and Canada.

The free-to-fee transition likely will occur in tentative steps rather than bold leaps that would lock all online content behind a pay gate. Publishers are taking this cautious approach because they are still trying to devise online payment plans that will generate more revenue without alienating too many of their readers.

more...

http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/scitech/2009/09/20/D9AR60R00_us_tec_online_news_fees/index.html
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:01 PM
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1. Good luck with that.
I seem to recall they tried that already, and it didn't work out so well.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:01 PM
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2. Ah, yes. Complete destruction of the papers. Buh Bye.,
I love the paper. I'll be sorry to see it go.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:37 PM
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19. When they start investigating and reporting news I'll start paying.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 03:54 PM
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23. Don't be hatin', homie...
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:03 PM
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3. Do they think we can't get around whatever they try to do?nt
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:03 PM
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4. Asking a person to pay for something of value is just plain futile. nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:33 PM
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17. That's capitalism.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:05 PM
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5. I paid for an online NYT subscription
when they tried it and found it worthwhile. I won't pay for a lot of the stuff, though, and neither will any other news junkie. We'll have to content ourselves with the headlines and the first one or two paragraphs they'll post to try to suck us in.

I see The Nation now requires subscription to view their stuff online. While I find it sad, I do understand why a shoestring publication that is on the brink of disaster every month does that.

I have a feeling much news content will continue to be free access, but the editorial and other content will be fee for service. The sheer volume of stuff out there on the net would keep them from making a profit on it otherwise. The only reason it worked for as long as it did at the NYT was the attractiveness of their stable of editorial writers. It will likely be the same for other outlets.

It will be nice to see decent writers being courted again instead of a bunch of hacks who wait for RNC press releases to drop into their laps.
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:06 PM
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6. I understand their point. I hope they understand mine: I can't afford it
Edited on Sun Sep-20-09 01:07 PM by Indigent
And I won't pay a penny for news anymore. I pay internet. That should cover it. Let them tell Optimum Online to take some of that money I pay them and use it to cover the news portion of what I do online.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:40 PM
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21. charming. when u want something for nothing u get what u pay for lol nt
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:12 PM
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7. They should have done this
when they first started up online, instead of making everything free. That way most would probably keep to buying their print versions and maybe, just maybe the whole print media industry wouldn't be going belly up...at least not yet. So they think they're gonna charge people now, after years of free access...ain't gonna happen. It's too late.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:37 PM
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20. the free trial period is to get people hooked.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:14 PM
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8. It won't work unless they get together and do it en masse.
Which I am not really against.

They must be paid to survive.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:19 PM
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9. Good - get rid of the fuckers faster.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:38 PM
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10. It'll never work
The music industry should have showed them that.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:42 PM
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11. That's what advertising is for.
And they should have less overhead online, due to lack of cost of huge printing and paper distribution cost.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:49 PM
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12. They should charge sports teams for sports reporting...
After they've fired the 'beat' reporters, aren't most 'local' reporters doing SPORTS?

And seeing that Sports is THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS, and they anything they 'report' outside of the SCORES is RARELY 'reporting', they should CHARGE the teams for the ADVERTISING...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:34 PM
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18. Agreed, 100%.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:51 PM
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13. I want to know why this isn't a violation of the Sherman Anti-trust Act?
I recall reading of a symposium of newpapers somewhere where this was discussed, which I think is verboten under Sherman anti-trust laws. An industry cannot act in a monolithic co-ordinated fashion in order to undermine the free market.

I am actually somewhat sympathetic to the plight of the industry, but I also see that newspapers are FAILING to deliver NEWS. In fact, right this second, they are ignoring the Sybil Edmunds story, which was told under oath in an open courtroom, so I question the legitimacy of ANY of them caling themselves an actual "news" or "journalism" source. It's practically false advertising in and of itself.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:00 PM
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14. Only online have they ever been free anyway - why shouldn't they charge for a product
reading an article in a newspaper for free isn't a right
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:54 PM
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22. How much are you willing to pay for news articles? nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:31 PM
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15. Well that is a good way to become irrelevant.
I used to follow Paul Krugman religiously until they made us pay for him. And then he stopped being part of my routine. Now I only read him if someone posts on him.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:32 PM
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16. Will subscribers get coupons to print out?
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