This just in from my Blackfoot friend. ( Flu Vaccinations and meds in Canada)

[BeHereNow]

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/RecentUpdatesampArticles/Sept202009PreparingfortheRealPandemic/tabid/107/Default.aspx

Read it and weep.

BHN

[LynnTheDem]

1. Send it to Faux "News". They love this kind of utter bullshit.

[BeHereNow]

4. Bullshit?

I would wager to guess that you have not read the PNAC document
advocating genetic specific biochemical warfare weaponry?

Get back to me when you find the page and quote by Paul Wolfowitz.

BHN

[LynnTheDem]

7. Why don't you find out why "reverend" Annett isn't.

I believe him just as much as I believe wolfowitz.

[Liquorice]

2. What is a tamiflu vaccine? There is no such thing. nt

[BeHereNow]

5. A correction was made by the author. N/T.

bhn

[pnwmom]

12. I read it and I didn't see any correction. That kind of error discredits the whole piece. n/t

[BeHereNow]

13. Don't know many Indigenous People, do you? N/T

bhn

[pnwmom]

15. My extended family includes tribal members. But I don't know what that has

to do with the fact that this article appears to be a hoax. And you had the opportunity to point out the correction, and didn't.

[BeHereNow]

16. What Nation?

On edit: And are they practicing tradition?

bhn

[pnwmom]

29. Cherokee, and no, they aren't practicing tradition. At least not the ones who

are most closely related to us.

[quiller4]

35. The article is a hoax and was reported as such in Indian Country

and there is a note posted about this hoax at Puyallup Tribal Health. This isn't a new hoax Variations have surfaced and been debunked several times.

[uppityperson]

19. wtf does that have to do with not showing a correction? There is no "tamiflu vaccine"

When the first line has such a glaring error, it makes the rest suspect.

OK, now you get to ask me a irrelevant question rather than pointing out the correction.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Here is what is probably going on

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6596068&mesg_id=6596294

That history degree becomes relevant now...

Yes I have seen this before... albeit in early 19th century Spanish involving Jenner's vaccine

[Hannah Bell]

23. you lived in the 19th century?

[uppityperson]

24. Have you ever worn purple velvet pants?

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Ignored, almost makes it tempting

no.

:-)

[uppityperson]

26. I figure as long as posters are asking questions rather than replying to a post, hey

why not. Though, to be fair, at least the question has a word in it that is in the post being replied to.

[Hannah Bell]

28. "I have seen this before... albeit in early 19th century Spanish"

[uppityperson]

31. "That history degree becomes relevant now..."

"Yes I have seen this before... albeit in early 19th century Spanish involving Jenner's vaccine"

Usually posters just read the subject line and miss the message part. Try again.

[csziggy]

3. "tamiflu vaccine" - WTF?

Tamiflu is an antiviral - not a disease that has a vaccine against it.

[BeHereNow]

6. See post # 5 N/T

bhn

[uppityperson]

20. where is the correction? nt

[truedelphi]

8. K & R. n/t

[HeresyLives]

9. Bill C-6

Bill C-6, also known as the Canada Consumer Product Safety Act (CCPSA), is proposed legislation that will help keep Canadian families safe from dangerous consumer products.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/legislation/acts-lois/bill_c6-loi-eng.php

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Tamiflu is an antiviral

not the vaccine.

The human trials in Canada, or the US, are not being done like that, but at medical centers, in the US at Vanderbilt U, among others.

Government of Canada announces intention to order 50.4 million doses of H1N1 vaccine

(OTTAWA) – Minister of Health, Leona Aglukkaq and Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, Dr. David Butler-Jones, today announced that the Government of Canada will soon place an order for 50.4 million doses of H1N1 vaccine, which will be available to all Canadians who need and want it in time for the winter flu season.

“The Government of Canada will ensure sufficient H1N1 vaccine is available to immunize every Canadian who needs and wants protection from the H1N1 virus,” said Minister Aglukkaq. “We are pleased to have worked together with provinces and territories in implementing a coordinated, pan-Canadian response to all elements of the H1N1 outbreak, including decisions around vaccines.”

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/media/nr-rp/2009/2009_0806-eng.php

It is, in other words, NOT MANDATORY. Like in the US, where we don't have enough either.

I don't whether to weep or not, I mean what is better, Genocide or RFID chips?

[CoffeeCat]

11. I read it...

...and what is the "Tamiflu vaccine" that this article suggests is killing people? Is this the normal, seasonal
flu shot and not the swine-flu shot?

This article is truly disturbing, but I wonder if it is true and what is actually going on.

One thing is clear. The Swine Flu is very mild. Yes, it spreads easily from person to person, but it is
incredibly mild. Milder than a normal seasonal flu. So, why the panic? Why, this year, did my children
come home from elementary school with a packet--asking me to fill out, sign and return a permission slip
to school--so my child could get the Swine Flu shot while at school? That's never been done since my children
have been in school (they're in 3rd and 4th grade) and this Swine Flu isn't as bad as other flues).

Many speculate that the Swine Flu could mutate into a more virulent form. Ok, fine--but if it mutates--any
shots we are giving out now wouldn't provide immunity...correct? So, we're under this big push to vaccinate
for a Swine Flu that is so weak--most don't even see a doctor.

At best---Big Pharma is out to making billions off of more flu shots. At worst--scenarios like your friend's
literature.

At this point--the situation is a curiosity because this year there is such a big push--when the flu is very mild.

Since the push is happening from our government and big pharma--it's possible that the American people are being
duped, screwed over or just robbed once again. Who knows.

Thanks for this information. I will watch closely as all of this unfolds.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. It is not our government that is mandating this response

it is the World Health Organization

Also the vaccine has not been released in Canada either.

I do smell some BS here, and as much as I like Native American Populations, for very good reasons, they are afraid of any vaccine. By the way, not just in Canada.

And the push is because of the potential for mutation and the vaccine will provide some level of protection when and if it does.

[CoffeeCat]

17. Thanks for your input...

I admit that I am skeptical about this vaccine, but I do think it's good
to evaluate all information that comes in.

I do know that there have been clinical trials in the US--and some even in my state.

I have not heard of any negative effects from the Swine Flu vaccine from those trials.
The media reports have not mentioned anything out of the ordinary.

So, I'm not sure what is going on with this report from BHN.

It is good to post all information, which serves as a springboard for discussion. It's normal
for people to question and to be skeptical--because there is such a mistrust of our government
and the corporations that are corrupting our government.

[BeHereNow]

18. Amen.

The email is from a friend in Canada.
He is a Traditional Blackfoot Sun dancer.
That he cared enough to request that I pass this along is all I needed to post it.
I have learned SO much from him.

BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Here is what may be going on

just from the time line given

They were given the annual vax, and for whatever reason they have gotten sick.

When we treated native American populations in Mexico we had a similar problem for similar reasons. Reality is the vaccine takes (H1N1) 7-10 to achieve full activation of the system.

The normal from what I have read is a little shorter but not much. So if they got sick after receiving the shots, they may have had the virii already making the rounds and if this is H1N1 I want to know. We know the Mexican population was far more susceptible to death than in the US. So perhaps there are enough genetic differences that make this sub-group of humans more susceptible to ketokine storms and all that.

No, not because the government is doing it (though people will suspect it, and for Native American populations continent wide there is a history) but because there is something more fundamental going on.

Hell, from doing my research I did read a lot into the early small pox vaccines, and the resistance of the natives to this in New Spain (Modern day Mexico)... and quite honestly, this is in English, but it is very similar in tone and flavor... and from readying colonial papers people did get sicker among native American populations, which was a huge WTF moment to enlightened scientists coming from the home country. These days we know why. Even though they were exposed to it due to the arrival of the Spanish... they still had less resistance to it. I suspect that if Small Pox escaped from the lab these days it would kill millions because we no longer have any exposure to it... ok some of us will have less chances just because we have some residual resistance from those vaccines... but otherwise... it will look like Tenochtitlan all over again.

And perhaps there is something similar at work here, and they should have health care personnel doing what health care personnel do. The fly in the ointment... again for very good and valid reasons whitey medicine is not to be trusted... again continent wide.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

27. What a freaking uninformed crazy person.

This is a truly dumb article.

[MichaelHarris]

30. You got it from a

Blackfoot and it's about Nootka tribe? The Blackfeet are in Montana, Idaho, and Alberta, The Nootka are only along the western coast. Considering the work I'm doing in college and the people I'm working with I'm going with bullshit on this one.

[uppityperson]

32. I'd not discount it just on that basis as native americans/indians follow news on

all sorts of tribes. I'd discount it on the "tamiflu vaccine" though.

[MichaelHarris]

33. I'm

dismissing it because the people I'm working with on campus also work with these same tribes. One of them just finished living in that region for 8 months as an anthropologist.

[EFerrari]

34. Compare it to another story here in the last few days

of body bags sent to an aboriginal village in Australia. The people there were angry -- because they'd asked for "medicine" and treatment, not body bags.

[earth mom]

36. I hope to hell that this story isn't true, but I'm glad you posted it.

That evil bastard Rumsfeld owns millions of dollars in Tamiflu stock which should tell everyone what they need to know.

For more info click the link below and read the information in the box first. Very damning info on the scare tactics Rumsfeld and his ilk are using.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp