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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:26 AM
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The Peter and Scott Lively tell us what "Christian" masculinity they need
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 12:26 AM by ccharles000
by: Pam Spaulding

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/13090/the-peter-and-scott-lively-tell-us-what-christian-masculinity-they-need

Sometimes I wonder if Peter LaBarbera likes to purposely publish items on his Americans for Truth for Homosexuality site that make the professional anti-gay, womb-controlling set seem so absurd and untethered from reality to throw us off track.

Take this piece Peter features, Scott Lively's "Masculine Christianity," that is bust-a-gut hilarious. And it starts with LaBarbera's quite revealing intro.

"I'm to the point where I change the radio station out of principle (and aggravation) whenever I hear a wispy male Christian song that sounds like a femmy, religious version of the Bee Gees. Certainly, Christian men should be more jazzed about fighting for Truth in the Culture War than they are about succeeding in business and watching sports."

In other words, Peter wants to bond with a Real Christian Man, who knows how to thrust his manhood around in the name of Christ. Well Scott Lively gets quite specific about what kind of masculinity is honored in the twinkle of God's eye.

"Unfortunately, the modern American church, along with the majority of its leaders, has rejected masculinity in favor of an effeminate Christianity. Too many (though by no means all) of today's pastors, priests, deacons and elders shrink timidly from the challenge of the world, more interested in decorating the interior of their church buildings than in doing cultural and political battle with the enemies of God. Ravening lions rage unchecked throughout the land, while church leaders hold potlucks and retreats.

Where is the masculine Jesus of the Bible in the life of today's church? The Jesus who threw down the tables of the moneychangers and drove them out of the temple with a whip? The Jesus who faced down and tamed the Gerasene demoniac? The Jesus who, to their faces, excoriated the cultural and political leaders of the day as a "brood of vipers " and "whitewashed sepulchers full of dead men ' s bones?" This masculine Jesus has been ejected from the American church. In His place is a false and emasculated Christ, as submissive and fearful of controversy as the men who now lead His flock."
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:31 AM
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1. Interestingly, Doug Giles, the father of the ACORN sting woman, preaches this kind of crap.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:21 AM
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12. As if we needed any further proof that..
Christianity is dead.

"The last Christian died on the cross", indeed.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:36 AM
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2. Ooooooh, self-hatred!
It's so obvious.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:19 AM
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11. sorry, dupe. n/t
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 05:20 AM by girl gone mad
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:21 AM
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3. I'll bite. What straight man even knows the meaning of the word "femmy"?
It's never pretty when guys like that come out of the closet.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:27 AM
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4. someone needs to come out of the closet.....
he`s got to be one creepy guy....
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:28 AM
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5. reminds me of a piece on Christian men's books a few years back by Jeff Sharlet
Sex As a Weapon: Decoding the lierature of the Christian men's movement
http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/sharlet/sexasaweapon

A discussion of the Christian men's movement — Iron John for fundamentalists, Promise Keepers to the tenth power — is best begun with some mean-spirited fun. Not because there is anything laughable about loving Jesus or thinking about gender, but because the language with which conservative evangelical men combine these two passions, at conferences and in "cell groups" and in books with titles such as You, The Warrior Leader; The Barbarian Way and Fight on Your Knees often seems as if it's been lifted directly from Beavis & Butt-Head, absent the adolescent giggles. The movement itself is deadly earnest, and worse, a threat — legally, emotionally, sometimes physically — to all those who can't or won't conform to its perversely precise dream of a nation of sexually self-regulating spiritual warriors. I’ll get to that. But first, some yuks.

Take, for example, God's Gift to Women (the title of a manliness guide for young men), male "headship" of the American family. Women can't get enough of good headship, but a man must be careful; a woman's hunger for his headship may lead him to abuse its potency through the sin of anger. A few years ago, I learned in an evangelical magazine what to do in such a situation: push your anger down and store it inside your heart, where Jesus will work it over it until it is ready to be "released," transformed into "white-hot brother love."
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Tristesse Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:25 AM
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6. Re: Sex as a weapon
Oooh, yeah, we women are just crazy for good headship. ROFLMAO!

I just wonder--how do these he-men know so much about what women want? It's not like they would ask a "mere" female for her opinion on anything--any red-blooded male knows we're brain-dead womb-toters!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:16 AM
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10. "a woman's hunger for his headship"
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 05:18 AM by Skittles
reminds me of a lesbian comic commenting on penis envy: why would we envy something that looks like a dead chicken's neck and can be outperformed by a couple of AA batteries? :rofl:
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:29 AM
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7. Ooh! That's it! I'm going to be a Gerasene demoniac for Halloween.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:55 AM
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8. "Ravening lions rage unchecked throughout the land..."
BWAAAAH! A pencilneck with esteem issues is hoping nobody notices his chest-puffing weeniedom is nowhere near the hypermasculinity he's aching to claim. Confronting the godless isn't a bloodsport, no matter how pop-eyed "oooooh, I'm SO angry" he gets.

Raging ravening LIONS. Cripes, what a dweeb.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:13 AM
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9. yes, we gals are only good for decorating and potlucks
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 05:15 AM by Skittles
we wimming shrink from the "challenges of the world".........gawd, those misogynists can all go fuck themselves
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