Are we being played like a 2 dollar banjo?

[zeemike]

I watched Fox news sunday and the most interesting thing was the commercials.
GE had an add about how they make jet engines....like they really need to advertise jet engins because there is such a mass market for them.

But wait a minute, does not GE own MS NBC and is there a war of ideas going back and forth between them and Fox?
And did not Fox loose adds because of Beckkk?...and GE comes in and helps them out?
It is true, follow the money....it leaves a clear trail, and tells the tail.

[MrsBrady]

1. I have a friend that sells television ad space for Tribune.

and I worked for a major music distributor and am familiar with ad placement.

Telvision Companies need to sell ad space for revenue, and they will sell to virtually anyone that will pay the price.

Fox is happy to take GE's money, and I'm sure GE is happy to have their ad running.
Kind of a no brainer, really.

[zeemike]

2. You mean there is a need to advertise jet engines?

But I understand that the spin is that it enhances their brand but really.

[MrsBrady]

3. well, you wouldn't think that...

but if GE wants to spend money on making a commercial and then spend the money to advertise it...
stations will take the money. They will have no trouble taking the money.
I'm not saying its wrong or right. If you want to follow the money, it's pretty much about an easy sell for ad space.

[zeemike]

4. Well of course they will take the money

Money is the life blood of this network of corporate influence.
They all work together to dominate, and control things.

[lib2DaBone]

15. Public Relations.. designed to make the public feel warm and fuzzy about the War machine..

[Echo In Light]

16. And always carefully framed in the 'retaliatory' sense; empire, of course, is NEVER the aggressor

[FormerDittoHead]

5. Write Honeywell, and they'll tell you about it.

"One day, a robot will walk your dog."

I remember those commercials.

Remember DOW? "We don't make things you buy, we make things that go into the things you buy".

Monsanto, etc., etc.

You're right.

You don't advertise on a show/network which is currently running an expose on your company!

You run ads on a network to STOP said media outlet from running an expose on your company!...

[lib2DaBone]

17. Public Relations campaigns are in actuality Editorials...

..they are not designed to move product off the shelf (like toothpaste or shampoo). They are designed to influence opinion in the direction the Corporation desires.

i.e. Exxon doesn't need to sell gas... they can charge whatever they want. But they run warm and fuzzy green-energy commercials on Meet The Press. They want you to believe they are not really the company responsible for Exxon Valdez oil spill and they are working to bring you all this new clean energy...

In reality.. they are applying the KY Jelly.

[zeemike]

20. That Robot thing is kind of telling

Cause what they suggest is that they will take your life away and turn you into a useless piece of shit.
Why not just have a robot dog and pretend it is alive.

[KansDem]

6. I just bought a jet engine last weekend...

I'm going to mount it on my lawn mower so I can mow my yards in only a fraction of the time it takes me now and have plenty of time left over to enjoy the weekend.

Still in the box until I figure out the instructions...

;)

[peekaloo]

7. Don't need special tools to fix them either.

just a regular wrench if it gets a tad wobbly.

:-)

[Harry Monroe]

12. Sure your name isn't Tim Taylor?

More power!!

Grunt, Grunt, Grunt

[dawg]

8. it's all about the stock price, imho ...

I used to wonder why all these companies like ADM, Boeing, GE, etc. would air television commercials, too. But then I realized, they aren't trying to sell their product, they are trying to sell their stock. A rising stock price is more important to most CEO's than the long-term health of their companies.

[AllentownJake]

10. Ding Ding Ding

You are correct sir.

[JHB]

9. Actually, $2 banjos are suprisingly hard to play...

...as they tend to break and fall apart real easy.

[zeemike]

22. Well it has been some time sense they made them.

But I would love to pick at one right now.

[Historic NY]

11. Don't watch FOX it turns ones brain to mush...its all part of a conspiracy.

[YOY]

13. Come to DC and look at the Pentagon and Pentagon City Metro stations.

Advertisements for Military Hardware and big contractoring companies...like candybar or car ads elsewhere. As if the top fucking brass rides the fucking metro.

[AllentownJake]

14. WWF or WWE I guess now

Take a little time to read up on the terminology of Pro-wrestling

We are all marks. Fox has it's share of fans, MSNBC has it's share of fans. MSNBC is marketing towards the left. Fox is marketing to the right with CNN stuck somewhere in the middle.

MSNBC is a small, very small, business operation of GE. Foxnews is a part of the overall business operation of news corp. We must remember the same company that airs Bill O'Reilley also airs the Simpsons and Family Guy.

The same company that airs Keith Olbermann recieves billions annually in defense contracts.

[zeemike]

23. Well I know noting about wresting.

But yes, we are all marks...And it is amazing how easily we are played.
In the early days of TV someone said "this tool can teach" but now it is "this tool can preach"

[HamdenRice]

18. Here's something I learned years ago in corp finance: Those commercials are for stock & bonds

It's actually kind of interesting. You wonder, why does GE advertise engines and other stuff no one buys? Why does Archer Daniels Midland advertise with no discernable product?

The answer is that those commercials are general corporate commercials aimed at investors. They are really advertising their stocks and bonds.

They can't say, "we're the supermarket to the world -- buy our shares" because the Securities Act and Securities Exchange Act limit advertising for stocks and bonds. So they advertise the corporation in general, but the investor class knows what the message is.

If they actually say, buy our stocks and bonds, as some do, they immediately have to add, "this is not a offer to sell nor a solicitation to buy securities, which can only be done pursuant to a prospectus," or some such nonsense to comply with the Securities Act, which you also hear on the Sunday talk shows.

All those ads are about their stocks and bonds, not their products.

[zeemike]

19. That explains why it is profitable for the CEOs to do it.

But it also works for the inter corporate system of revenue sharing...everyone gets a piece of the pie.
that money is the life blood of corporate America.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. Well maybe you.

If you're watching Fox.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

24. "loose ads..."

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[zeemike]

25. Well it sounded right in my head....n/t

[HCE SuiGeneris]

26. also,

tells the tail... it's tale

[zeemike]

28. i can tell how it sounds but not how it looks...

I am what they call dyslexic

[imdjh]

27. Mobil OIl cares about the red fox and the Navajo

Or you can insert whichever animal and aboriginal you prefer.

[unhappycamper]

29. GE's lobbying for the F-35 engine contract. n/t