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Tyler Generation Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:30 PM
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Exactly which industry did the U.S. Government "take over and ruin"?
This seems to be a favorite of mouthbreathers: "Anything the government takes over they ruin!" Yet they never seem to be able to follow up with what exactly it is they took over.

Anyone know of anything that may of influenced this sentiment?:shrug:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:32 PM
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1. Lead mining, in Galena, Illinois.
Lamplighters in New York
The Corporation for Oral Testing of Bovine Fecal Matter for Disease Analysis.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 12:37 PM
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2. The military. nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:32 PM
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4. Actually, our military did better before we outsourced the support services.
Used to be GIs pulled KP -- washed dishes, peeled potatoes, everything. That was back when we actually won wars. Now, we hire outsiders to do all those nasty little jobs (that build a lot of teamwork and discipline). Now, our military is "professional" and we are regularly bested by relatively disorganized fanatics of one persuasion or another.

It's not government that does things badly. It's private industry. And, that is not due to some flaw in capitalism. It is due to flaws in the people who run our private industry.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:43 PM
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6. And that's why we've won almost 50% of the wars we've fought, I guess?
:patriot:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 03:50 PM
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9. Since Korea, what wars have we really won other than Grenada which was a joke?
Maybe the invasion of the Dominican Republic, also a joke?

Even the first Gulf War ended in us leaving because we had bitten off more than we could chew.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:34 PM
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5. Whatever do you mean? That's exhibit A of toxic industries that survive only on government subsidy.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 01:05 PM
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3. Think affirmative action and welfare for your answers
the right says both are failures because they don't help folks get off their lazy asses and "get a job". AA gives non whites an un fair advantage in the work place, so whites say, though the problem went much deeper then the whites will admit. Another words its all based on racism/sexism, the goberment stepped in and caused me to lose my job to a black/woman/mexican and there wasn't a problem until the goberment stepped in, so their miserable lives weren't from corporate america it was american goberment that caused their problems. The stupid runs deep and long.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:38 PM
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8. What Private "Industries" compete with those you listed?
:crazy:
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 04:59 PM
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10. Its not about competing its about government run agencies
EPA, OSHA, Welfare, Affirmative Action and all the other agencies, they see them as failed programs that over stepped their bounds and cost american jobs. We are not talking about real government failures, we are talking about what the right wingnuts believe are government failures. Government can't run welfare, government can't run the EPA, government can't run anything because government doesn't care about the little guy and stops businesses from creating jobs. They make stupid laws that cost businesses to much and fine to much to the poor business men. It was EPA standards for the big 3 failures, the EPA what with its pollution standards caused the big 3 to make cars more expensive. Government failure.

It was AA that stopped businesses from hiring the best people for the job and forced businesses to hire minorities that weren't able to do the job and thus causing businesses to fail and lay off "the hard worker". You are dealing with people that go for sound bites instead of thought out solutions to problems. The current failures of banks wasn't banks playing with credit, it was the low income home owner that defaulted because they bought homes they couldn't afford and the government forced banks to give them folks the loans. Government failure.

It has nothing to do with what the government has actually done, its about what they see as failures, until its them that need the services government provides, then they are screaming for it. It is like that with them, their health insurance is fine at this moment in their lives and so if theirs is fine then its a good system but that won't be what they will be saying when they get dropped, then they will be screaming for government help. Fear of another government failure yet to happen.

The military works fine, no talk of how badly the government is handling the military so not in their minds as a government run agency. Same with fire and police departments, they are working fine for them, out of their mind as a government run agency. Until their car hits a pot hole and ruins a tire, the roads aren't in their mind concept as a government run agency, then after they hit the pot hole, another government failure.

I's also why they can't answer the simple question the op asks them, they have no real ideal except the latest Rush talking point or what Fuks news tells them what the government does.





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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:29 PM
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7. Many, also, say that they are losing their freedoms with Obama. I ask...
one guy what freedom he has lost? He stammered, sputtered and finally came out with "how 'bout...how 'bout you can't use your cell phone while diving." I just walked away. sigh
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 05:16 PM
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11. Wow thats the best way to phrase that I have seen yet
I certainly cannot think of one.

It's usually their rhetoric though that government programs are inefficient, like the half trillion of waste Obama says we can cut from medicare, the post offices billions in losses and $1000 hammers for the military...
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