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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:33 PM
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Well listening to Mike Malloy and he is wrong in one respect
it is not less than one tenth of one percent who is involved in this mess. Not quite that bad

It is 1% who are active duty, and 5% who have family and all that.

Usually talk does not turn to the war in Afghanistan or Iraq because people are not involved. He is very right on that. The other night our Jewish New Year dinner turned there, because two folks at the table I suspect are among the confused Americans who are trying to find the truth and can't with the media. We told them the nightmare stories that my hubby knows, form having been at the tip of the spear. Oh and the ones I know from being a Navy Wife...

Their question, why would the media not publish this? Well kiddies, it is quite simple, you never go into the ugly details of empire when most of your population is occupied somewhere else.

by the way Mike, welcome to the club. Yes I am also for the draft. If this is so damn important, then by all means let's make this a national project. Otherwise, lets get the fuck out.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:37 PM
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1. Exactly, NB...
If this is a war of consequence, then we need a draft so that all might participate!

A WAR for the nation should include everyone!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:43 PM
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2. Now we will have the folks going
NOT MY KIDS

OR but you will not have to fight it.

Well, I can tell, we both have been there, done that. And if this is so damn important... then we need a draft... and lord knows I tried to volunteer to the AF the weeks after 9.11

Care for some popcorn Rick? I get tired of this... I am also tired of the but national service is bad meme too.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:44 PM
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3. The only way a draft would work is if there were no deferments or loopholes
With the exceptions of those physically unable to do the job of course.

Only the corporate rich benefit from this war, so unless THEY personally pay a price with their own skin, a draft wouldn't change shit.

If it were up to me, I'd begin the draft in the Goldman Sachs office. Take everyone under 50. Then the rest of Wall $treet. And move on from there to the "defense" industry and the oil companies.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:48 PM
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4. That is exactly what I mean as a draft
No exceptions, no loopholes.

You have a problem with carrying arms? Here is a medic bag. You got asthma, fine, take a desk job. Everybody fights, everybody serves.

No I do not mean the one where somebody like Chenney can take five deferments.

The ONLY exception would be... six months to finish your college degree from the point of signing into law and off to OCS you go. We will need officers. But if you got more than six months and your number came up... oh well, off to the army you go.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:54 PM
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5. O perfect system. Indeed.
Then all the sons-daughters-nephews-nieces of Congressmen and who think these wars are "spreading democracy."

Then everybody who had "W" or "Palin" stickers on their vehicles.

That should give us enough people so we don't have to dredge through the children of teabaggers trying to find recruits with IQs high enough to lace their own boots.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:10 PM
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6. We don't need no stinkin' draft...we have the best army money can buy: Blackwater, CACI, Titan
We'll never see the draft again in this country ever since we found out we could buy willing participants in death and mayhem.
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