Is there anyone here that opposes the Investigations Edmonds has called for, for eight years now?

[Winterblues]

Let's have an investigation and see just where the chips fall. If she is lying, it will come out easily. If she is telling the truth, then something truly needs to be done about it..

[annabanana]

1. No argument from me.

Retroactively gagging her testimony is about as suspicious an act as a State can perpetrate, as far as I'm concerned.

If she's making stuff up, it will come out. If she's telling the truth, there are heads that need to roll.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

2. I'm disinclined...

...as her most recent claims pander to homophobic demagogury and it's ugly and it shouldn't be 2 electrons worht of space on the whole of the internet.

That much is certain and requires no investigation.

[Winterblues]

3. Are you suggesting a lesbian affair is, in your words, UGLY?

:shrug:

[Nuclear Unicorn]

8. *facepalm*

Now this is a stretch.

My words were the allegations rely on homophobic demagogury. That is what I was "suggesting".

[Winterblues]

11. But you are wrong on that

She was not denigrating anyone, other than by saying the Congresswoman had been set up for blackmail. She never once said what happened was right or wrong in her view. what she said was that Congresswoman may have been compromised and it should be checked out.. You seem to disagree that the "very serious charges" should not be investigated..

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. There's no point in bringing it out

Are we going to sit here and pretend Edmonds did Schakowsky a favor? Or was Edmonds just trying to bully an investigation out of people with a slur based on bigotry?

I don't care if Edmonds claims to be a GLBT supporter none of this needed to be made public.

The only practical result is to embarrass/damage Schakowsky...who for all we know isn't even bisexual...but then we're reduced to asking whether or not she is just to find out if the allegation has merit...and that's none of our damned business.

What if Schakowsky isn't bisexual? Then we have a blackmail innuendo with no basis, in which case she's susceptible to nothing but slander...which anyone could be susceptible. All you need is a disgruntled hack and a salacious plot but she loses the presumption of innocence because--gosh darnit!--we just have to know.

It's crap like this that keeps GLBT's out of public service. Screw DADT; who the hell would sign-up to serve if this is the crap people are going to put you through?

Do YOU feel the need to pry into Schakowsky's life to determine her sexual proclivities?

Feel free to investigate the other 10,000 allegations she has made but this one does little more than prop-up stale bigotries and we should be ashamed for not speaking out against it more loudly.

[spanone]

12. ...in your opinion, of course.

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. Democrats and Republicans in Congress have promised to investigate:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3223351

[Ozymanithrax]

5. When we've passed health care, passed a climate change

bill, removed our troups of Afghanistan and Iraq, and managed an honest negotiation between Israel and the Palastinians that neither will sign, then we can begin to dig up the past so congress can continue to white wash the whole affair and do nothing about it.

I would like to see an investigation, but even if one occurs they will find nothing. Not because nothing happened, but because nobody in the government wants to expend the political capital that would be required.

[mmonk]

7. Lose political capital.

[Ozymanithrax]

18. No mater how just the issue it will cost in political capital.

The "Liberal media" will have a cow over what will be called "political pay back." This will cost seats even though it is the right thing to do.

One of the flaws in our system is that there is no independant group that can investigate political crimes. Obama has opposed anything with a whiff of an inspection of the last administration. It appears they have so narrowed the investigation into the CIA and torture that an Eichman could come through it smelling like a rose. It is why the Democrats called for heads to roll before they regained power in 2006 but have refused to do anything substantive since that time.

The more time passes the harder it will be to ferret out evidence that might exist.

[cali]

6. nope, I think here claims should be investigated

[mmonk]

9. Thanks cali.

It shouldn't just keep hanging out there.

[cali]

13. on this we agree. we need to get to the facts.

I'm not sure though what the best venue would be. Any ideas?

[LiberalAndProud]

10. Let's investigate everything.

The Republicans spent a great deal of time and money investigating Whitewater, for all the good it did.

But have at it, because where there is smoke ...

[mmonk]

14. Was somebody prevented from testifying by the DOJ by use of the

state secrets privilege in Whitewater investigations?

[LiberalAndProud]

15. And there is the irony.

The gag order is the thing that lends this tale credibility. But state secrets and executive privilege were invoked so many times over Bush's tenure, there will be no end to the investigations. Ever. State secrets were SOP.

[bertman]

17. Charges this serious deserve a serious investigation. nt

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