Mackenzie Phillips says she had sex with her dad

[WI_DEM]

CHICAGO - Former child star Mackenzie Phillips said Wednesday her father, John Phillips, who was a leader of the 1960s pop group the Mamas and the Papas, raped her when she was a teenager and that her sexual relationship with him later became what she termed "consensual."

Mackenzie Phillips writes in her new book, "High on Arrival," that she had sex with her father on the night before she was to get married in 1979 at age 19, according to People magazine.

Phillips wrote in her book: "I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father."

She told "The Oprah Winfrey Show" in an interview that aired Wednesday that her siblings "definitely have a problem with this." Winfrey also read a statement from Genevieve Waite, John Phillips' wife at the time of the alleged abuse and Mackenzie's stepmother that said he was "incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

Phillips, who starred on TV's "One Day at a Time," said the sexual relationship with her father lasted a decade and ended when she became pregnant and didn't know who had fathered the child. She had an abortion, which her father paid for, and "and I never let him touch me again."

Phillips told Winfrey that she first tried cocaine when she was 11 years old. Her father did drugs with her, taught her to roll joints and injected her with cocaine. Phillips said she's been clean for a year after pleading guilty to possessing cocaine and entering a drug treatment program.
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[YOY]

Um...that's nice.

n.t.

[timeforpeace]

39. "her new book"

[polichick]

1. ICK. nt

[snooper2]

2. That's some fucked up shit...

:puke:

[bluestateguy]

3. TMI

nt

[Scurrilous]

4. So weird. n/t

[WyLoochka]

5. False Memory Syndrome

She has it. Blame, blame, blame - blame anyone but yourself for your own fucked up life.

Oprah should stop enabling this destructive mental illness.

[eShirl]

6. Possibly.

Or it could be true. Not like it doesn't happen every day in America.

[ohheckyeah]

7. You don't know that. n/t

[cali]

10. how the fuck do you know? And her asswipe father fed her drugs

from the time she was a kid.

[teh strawman meme]

27. Thank you! That alone is enough of a character evaluation for me

and I believe victims until proven otherwise. Notice how so many immediately try to discredit the accuser?

[WyLoochka]

37. I believe the siblings

until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was indeed a victim.

In this case the siblings don't corroborate that she was a victim of her father.

[NashVegas]

13. John Phillips Inappropriateness With His Daughter Was a News Item In the 1990s

And did Robert Downey Jr make up memories of his folks going, 'isn't it cute? Little Junior's getting stoned and he's only 8.'

[teh strawman meme]

24. Would she really have to go to that extent to excuse herself?!

Sorry, but she has enough ammo to totally indict her father. He was effed up, as was her mother (if memory serves). I read his bio and HIS father was an alcoholic, so it runs in the family.

How come when sexual abuse victims come forward, so many people are intent on crying foul?

[MineralMan]

36. And you know this how, exactly?

Incest is far more common that people thing, and father-daughter incest is among the most common forms of it. I can see no reason to doubt the truth of this. Perhaps you have additional information to share with us...

[leftstreet]

8. Who. Gives. A. Shit. n/t

[WeDidIt]

9. This is something that should be kept

between Mackenzie, her father, and her therapist.

[mule_train]

16. yes, keep it in the family

no pun intended

[teh strawman meme]

26. Why--because we don't want to embarrass or besmear the memory of dear old dad?

I really believe in that saying--'you are only as sick as your secrets.' I am sure that this lurid revelation will spur book sales for sure, but it is also a way for Mackenzie to stop internalizing something that she didn't start. She has nothing to be ashamed of.

[mule_train]

28. false choice - there are other options between keeping it a complete secret and

telling the whole wide world - literally

[teh strawman meme]

29. I think she tried to go the other route and shouting it from the rooftops seems

good therapy, in my book. Take your deepest, darkest, shame-ridden (and societal taboo) and tell the world. Yeah, it's sick as hell. And it happens every day in America.

[closeupready]

31. I disagree. It's horrifying and awful, but sunlight is the best disinfectant.

It took courage to share this, but if it helps others in the same situation to face up to bad childhoods at the hands of their parents, then I think it's a good thing for society.

It's not as though she's promoting incest.

[mule_train]

11. Monday, Monday...can't forget that day

kinda gives a creepy new meaning to that song

[onehandle]

12. Ugh. I saw this and expect it to be posted at DU fifty times. Please, no. UNREC. nt

[cbdo2007]

14. Ctrl + F on General Discussion page, then search for "Phillips"

[kjackson227]

15. Is John Phillips still alive? I wonder what her mom has to say about this.

This is ashame.

[susanr516]

18. No, he died several years ago nt

[WeDidIt]

19. John Phillips died in 2001

so not much of a chance for him to defend himself.

He was 66.

[teh strawman meme]

30. He died after getting a liver transplant which could have gone to someone

who actually stopped drinking for good. :nopity:

[mule_train]

17. "Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest."

no.....not really

there are some things we can leave out of sight, and out of mind (except for the authorities and mental health agencies)

[asjr]

20. I just finished a book --Blood Memory by

Greg Iles, and the subject was child rape by relatives. Fiction but no one could make that up. It must be based on truth. I was shocked and ashamed for the women but couldn't put the book down. The setting is the South, Nachez MS and NOLA.

[AngryAmish]

22. They could too make that up

Children have repeatedly falsely accused adults of sexual abuse.

However, here, I withhold judgment.

[ellie]

21. Good lord

On one of the gossip sites I frequent, several people mentioned that Mackenzie already revealed this in an interview years ago and that it was common knowledge in Hollywood, so I don't know about false memory syndrome.

[mule_train]

23. her TV kid sister was a lot cuter

has no relevance to the story, but just thought I'd say it

[teh strawman meme]

25. Valerie Bertinelli was/is beautiful, but what does that have to do with the price of eggs?

So now Mackenzie is less worthy because of the comparison to Valerie? I love Mackenzie! And she had her own beauty. Women don't need to be lined up and rated like sides of beef.

[damntexdem]

32. Now that's carrying filial piety to the extreme.

Yes, one should love one's parents, but not LOVE one's parents. ;-)

[FSogol]

33. Unrec. 1. Who cares? 2. How many times will this be posted today?

3. If you wanna read about celebs, maybe People Magazine is more your style than DU?

[Forkboy]

34. I love when people take the time to care enough to tell people they don't care.

[mule_train]

38. i always found at the office that the people who didnt have one minute to *do their job* for you

had 15 minutes to tell me everything they had to do that day, and presumed that I had time to hear about it, and was not equally busy

the type of thing you are talking about is one of my pet peeves

if someone doesnt have the time for something, or doesnt care, then just SHUT UP

[elocs]

35. This is the third time this has been posted here today:

the first was moved to the Entertainment Forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=210x30380

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

40. If it was truly consensual then it's their own business

Incest is personally disgusting to me and it remains a taboo in almost every expression of human culture. But if two immediate family members are adults and want to have consensual sex (and if it's truly consensual), then it's up to them. I'm not going to throw stones and I can't put myself in their shoes (although I would prefer that they keep it private). I don't understand it but I won't judge them and try to force my own sexual mores on them. Actually it kind of makes me feel sad for them, because I wonder if any element of a loving father-daughter relationship can survive such a thing.