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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:00 PM
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Something you might not know about that census worker...
at any one time the Census Bureau is working on up to 15 different surveys besides the big one every 10 years.

Some of them are time limited, but some, like the American Community Survey, are ongoing and all have nothing to do with the decennial census. Few, if any, of the field workers doing them carry a GPS device.

The American Community survey, btw, has not only been attacked by Beck, Bachmann, and other wingnuts, but here on DU there have been many posts decrying how it's unconstitional, none of the government's business... and some just don't like it or can't be bothered. Others here have been explicit about what they would do if someone was found on their property. Just sayin' ya know...

Now, nobody knows yet, at least until the Census Bureau says something, but the dead worker might well have been working one of the other surveys, and somebody objected to the survey.

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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:02 PM
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1. Well, that makes everything ok, doesn't it?
:wtf:
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:41 PM
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6. I'm sure the OP didn't mean that, and I'm also sure you know it.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 05:04 PM by clear eye
Reads to me that the OPer was saying that the some of the Census Bureau's intrusive and likely unconstitutional survey questions put the workers in extra jeopardy in tough neighborhoods as well as not giving them GPS devices. If you happen to want to actually understand what the OP is about you can read the survey here. If you Google American Community Survey you will also read how the workers are directed to follow up on addressees who don't return the ACS by chasing them all over town whenever they leave their homes and threatening federal prosecution and jail time. If my boss asked me to do that, I'd tell them that I didn't want to get killed.

I know from personal experience that if you challenge the legality of the survey by phone they tell you that they will send your info to "the Justice Dept.". This whole business is sick, unAmerican, easily abused to harrass political opponents, and should be stopped. Much of the info they ask is available w/o people's names and addresses in reasearch articles in journals or in the records of organizations such as how many people are getting food stamps or how much gas and petroleum a community is using. Unlike when gov't gathers the info, when these entities compile the data, you don't have to worry that they could jail you if they don't like the answers or compell you to answer if you don't want to. That's why the Constitution forbids gov't from "unreasonable search and seizure", and not your church. They can get statistical compilations about people's incomes from the IRS, so why are they illegally asking people from specific addresses to divulge it.

And now it's gotten some poor guy killed.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:03 PM
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2. Just on Rachel Maddow..
It is an apparent homicide.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:06 PM
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3. We're not talking about someone being upset about being surveyed. This is a homicide.
I think we've crossed the point where constitutionality is concerned.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:08 PM
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4. because sociology is the devil's work! i'm sure plenty of the same folks decrying survey-taking
...have Facebook pages and cookies enabled on their computers.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:10 PM
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5. Murder is never justified
However, before you go saying how just because people get datamined online everything the Census Bureau asks is ok, read the survey. I would refuse it. It asks info that fed law says only the IRS is entitled to, and astonishingly personal questions as well. I doubt any other democratically governed country has implemented anything like this questionnaire.
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