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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:54 AM
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So... exactly why isn't gas $5 a gallon right now?
With all the flooding in the Atlanta area and the southeast, why haven't gas prices gone through the roof? Remember not so long ago when Congress was in republicon hands if a cloud so much as spit near a refinery or major hub gas prices would sky rocket? Can anyone explain why there isn't a major gas shortage anywhere? Not even in the southeast? Any freeper will tell you there is no such thing as market manipulation right? Things that make you say hmmm...
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:02 AM
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1. Because the 12% doesn't need it this Year ,$ 1.85 when Clinton left.
Market Manipulation is the only thing the we've done, for going on 10 YEARS.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:03 AM
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2. If one was to ever wonder if a President makes any difference
need look no further than this to see.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:37 AM
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11. Indeed. I was expecting a big spike for Labor Day
Usually would go up .30 or more. But not this year.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:10 AM
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3. Well...
....for one...the scope is no where near the same. Not even close.

The flooding is mostly located around North Atlanta and suburbs. No major refinerys there and the water is already receding.

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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:19 AM
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4. No Texas Oil Men
in the White House.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:23 AM
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5. Well, I live in the metro Atlanta area and gas prices
have been holding steady. They are averaging $2.29 to $2.35.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:49 AM
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6. For one: Bu$h and Cheney are no long in the White House
Two: The economy would have collapsed completely if prices would have stayed as high as they were.

The oil companies took theirs while they could and now have to back off to protect future profit making abilities.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:35 AM
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10. We have a winner!!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:53 AM
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7. No refineries have been shut down.
And traffic is flowing again after a couple of days of difficulty.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:01 AM
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8. That never stopped them before (eom)
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:14 AM
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9. Obama has been able to keep the prices low.
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vincna Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:24 AM
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16. Specifics?
I believe that the ability of any president to manipulate gasoline prices is greatly exaggerated. Can you point to any specific examples of presidential action driving prices one way or the other?

As I see it, the world economy is very weak right now. Much less in the way of industrial and consumers products is being produced and shipped. People have less money and are driving less. Airline travel is down. The result is less demand for refined products on a global level. Less demand = lower prices - it's that simple.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:14 AM
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17. You call 2.50 low?
Where's the dollar a gallon gas we had in the Clinton years?

That's what we need for prosperity.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:32 AM
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19. Based on rates of inflation over the past 50 years....yes.... $2.50 *IS* low
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:20 AM
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25. Dubious stat: The price of oil heavily influences the rate of inflation
Countless products are made with petroleum byproducts.

Almost everything is shipped with oil.

So if the price of oil was reasonable the rate of inflation would be much lower.
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positrac Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:37 AM
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20. Where? In the atmosphere...oxidized.
:shrug:
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:08 AM
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12. Crude oil and gasoline inventories are both up, refineries running at about 85% of capacity
Consumption has been down.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:10 AM
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13. Because the refineries are on the coast, Atlanta, not so much...
Hurricanes in Texas and LA are what shut refineries down anyway, not just rain.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:11 AM
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14. And it takes a couple of days to shut them down and a couple to get them back online
And when your workers are evacuated it takes time for them to even get back.

*tammywammy - who has family that works at refineries in Texas and knows what they had to do for hurricanes Rita & Ike.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:16 AM
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15. We voted out the rethuglicans.



That was a major step in the right direction.


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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:17 AM
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18. Economy's still in a slump
It will get there soon enough no doubt. Go long on oil and gas futures.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 10:55 AM
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21. Funny how the Europeans....
... pay $8/gal, and still manage to live in very prosperous societies.

How does that work?





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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:06 AM
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23. They do not have to drive as much, or as far.
Also, much of the price of gas in Europe is tax, but they actually use the tax revenue on things that benefit the public instead of 'defense' and corporate welfare.
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vincna Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:11 AM
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24. They have a much better mass transit system - nt
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:03 AM
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22. The only refinery of note is in Savannah, which is 250 miles from Atlanta
and it produces asphalt. That would be my first guess.
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