More faux outage from the wingnuts. Have you seen the video they are all upset about?

[proud2BlibKansan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU

Watch it and let me know what you think.

[babylonsister]

1. They're so cute! If the name GWB had been in there, bet we wouldn't

hear a peep about this. I don't recall any school kids showing any pride in idiot son though.

I think it's nice to 'FINALLY' be able to be proud of the prez, but that's just me.

[Buzz Clik]

9. not just you, sister. +1

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Can't help but think of that scene in Jesus Camp

where they lay hands on a cardboard cutout of dubya. Where was the wingnut outrage then?

[Igel]

27. Was it in a public school

getting federal funds?

What was the subject?

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. No it was in a summer camp run by a woman who should have been reported

for child abuse.

I have a much larger problem with that.

It's a very important film. You should watch it.

[rurallib]

2. The anonymity of the internet allows loons to spout racial invective

in the comments section. Think repugs will own up to coarsening the discourse to make this crap acceptable, even normal?

[sinkingfeeling]

16. One commenter wants the teacher's name and states, "She must die."

[csziggy]

3. Watched it yesterday - I have a lot of questions about it, same as the ACORN videos

The kid demonstrating the song at the beginning is not in any of the following renditions.

It is not clear if this is a school activity or something done by a group using school facilities.

The school is not identified in the video, by the poster on YouTube, or in any of the locations it has been posted on the internet. Michelle Malkin linked to it and there was a comment about it being in Illinois. I have not been able to find any record of any school having a program with singing about President Obama.

[KharmaTrain]

7. Big Deal...

As a kid in the 60's we were taught songs about Presidents. One hit at the time was PT 109...lauding JFK that also was a big radio hit. When my daughter was in first grade she "performed" in a show called "Presidents on Parade" where each child sang one or several songs about Presidents. So what.

Just more contrived wingnut poutrage to distract from real issues and their lack of leadership and responsibility. Let them go chase this new shiny toy...the rest of us have more important things to do.

[caraher]

12. Good points

If this were a public school elementary class I would object to the activity. I don't care if the guy in the White House is Jesus Christ arisen, it's simply not appropriate to lead children in hymns of praise to the person of the president. I would be rightly upset to see a bunch of kids led in a similar chant praising Reagan or Bush, and just because it's "my guy" in office doesn't make it right.

But as csziggy points out, we really don't know about the circumstances of the video. If this is not a public school class it changes the picture considerably. It would not be at all difficult to find video of homeschoolers, church groups, etc. leading kids in pro-Bush activities, and no matter how poor taste I might have found those people do have the right to do these things.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. So I take it you've never been to an elementary school music program?

Kids sing songs praising famous people all the time.

I am reminded of when I was in grade school in the 60s and we sang German songs at an Octoberfest. One of the parents was upset because she thought the songs praised the Nazis. My grandmother who was German pointed out that those songs had been sung by school children for hundreds of years before the Nazis came to power. You don't negate a heritage because of the behavior of one generation.

[csziggy]

24. I can remember when I was in first and second grade we had May Pole dances

And braided colored streamers around a pole. Then someone linked it with <gasp> COMMUNISTS and the school never did it again. I was disappointed since I thought it was fun and the pole was so pretty with the braided decoration.

[caraher]

38. Famous people not currently holding political office...

I do think it's an important distinction. I'll admit I don't find myself at such programs often, but I also don't believe is implies ought, and I don't think it ought to be done not because I have anything against praising "my guy" but because the thought of a similar song about, say, John McCain or Sarah Palin or Bush fills me with revulsion. At the very least hold off until they're out of office and it's part of our history.

[monmouth]

13. This is the info:

This was filmed around June 19, 2009 at the B. Bernice Young Elementary School in Burlington, NJ. Lyrics ======== Mmm, mmm, mm! Barack Hussein Obama He said that all must lend a hand To make ...

[csziggy]

19. That info was not out there yesterday - and today the only places I find it

Are the same places that are poutraged by the video. So I am not sure about the identification. I would like to see an article from prior to this week's furor showing where this was done and detailing the circumstances.

I don't find it all that offensive that kids are singing songs about the President or that the songs praise his adherence to the things that Christianity taught (at least that it did when I was a child). I was much more offended by Shrub using our troops as a backdrop to parading around in a flight suit and claiming victory in a war that we are still fighting years later.

[monmouth]

20. Totally agree...n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. +1

[csziggy]

23. Look at this and see if you think it is the same kid

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6619539&mesg_id=6619981

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. Yes it's the same

[csziggy]

26. That seems to indicate that it was NOT a school activity but one of the groups

That uses the school facilities. So it would not be "school indoctrination" but a voluntary private activity. Case closed.

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. There was a similar video last year with a similar story

Some kids at a charter school doing a step routine about Obama. Wingnuts wet their pants; Fox aired it repeatedly. Turns out it was an after school activity.

And just like this one, it wasn't the least bit 'offensive' to begin with.

[csziggy]

33. Yeah, and I bet this is not a school activity since the school was not in session

On the day this video is claimed to have been made.

Now if I were a parent of one of the kids on that video and it was taken and plastered across the internet world and now broadcast on Faux Noise without permission, I would be looking for blood. With all the perverts out there, children that young do not need their images and location publicized in such a way, especially at sites that have such hatred they are threatening to kill the "teacher" who was leading the kids. I hope somebody comes down hard on the organizations that have been using this video to stir up that hatred.

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. Our kids' parents have to sign a press release

before we can allow any of them to be photographed or videotaped. That's pretty standard in public school districts.

One more reason this was likely not a public school activity.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I am a teacher and kids sing songs about people all the time

Those outraged by this had better not ever attend an African American History program in an elementary school. I taught my kids a rap about Rosa Parks one year that would undoubtedly make the wingnuts wet their pants. Then of course there are yearly programs where kids 'worship' Martin Luther King.

Your point is well taken. It would be nice to have more information. But I think their outrage and claims of fascism are so silly that I don't care who or where or when this video was made.

[Igel]

28. I'd take the opposite approach.

Praising somebody who's dead, somebody who has no power, who has no legal authority, and somebody who has a great track record is one thing. Even with that last bit, though, I think I'd want to avoid praising a sitting president.

It's too royal, and too partisan. Singing a paean to Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan, to Rosa Parks or MLK? No problem, apart from any person politics. Singing an anthem to Bush II while he was in the White House? Nuh-uh. It's the same as singing a hymn of praise to Obama while he's in the White House. It's unseemly.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. We'll just have to agree to disagree then

:hi:

[anigbrowl]

34. I am so glad I learned history from reading books and asking questions

I frankly don't understand the American preference for pageantry over study.

[stuball111]

4. OMG! MIND CONTROL! INDOCTRINATION~(kidding)

I see a bunch of kids learning about the President through the use of music... :shrug: Seems like effective teaching techniques to me.

edit: And can't really understand WHAT they are singing except His name......

[appamado amata padam]

5. This was posted here last night, and

there was some back-and-forth about it. There is some doubt of its authenticity.

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. I always thought that kids were supposed to learn about the President as a part of government, not as a political figure. I thought kids were supposed to learn to respect the President, and that it was OK to love him (or in the future her) if they wanted to. Little kids like to learn things through song and dance. Kids who didn't want to go along could sit in the corner, wash blackboards, etc.

I guess I am from another time and place.

[tekisui]

6. Whatev. If they weren't foaming at the mouth about this, it would be

something else.

[meegbear]

8. But THIS clip is just fine and dandy, I'm sure ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg

[OneGrassRoot]

10. Beat me to it. That's exactly what came to my mind. :) n/t

[madrchsod]

11. i just looked at their website and...

..the 2010 school year ends during those days in 2010. did the 2009 school year end at the same time?

i`m sure they will be really happy with the phone calls they`ll be getting in the next few days

here`s their website

http://www.burltwpsch.org/

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. You're upset about a clerical error on their calendar?

Sorry. I don't follow.

[csziggy]

21. If you look at their calendar, they seem to have programs all summer

Here is June - http://ems.burltwpsch.org/BrowseEvents.aspx At the top it says "School closed does not mean that facilities cannot be used. Facilities are not available on Holidays or the evenings before a holiday."

If the video is from this school, it may be from a "Dance Xperience" rehearsal listed on the date (June 19, 2009) cited as the possible date. Or any number of other groups ("Jaztabal" is another one scheduled that week) since the school seems to specialize in a lot of performing arts.

[madrchsod]

32. i did`t notice that--thanks!

[ddeclue]

36. Don't click blind you tube links. Give a description dammit.

:argh:

[snake in the grass]

37. saved for later

[mwb970]

39. They love being upset.

Count on continuous outrage from the wingnuts for the next 7 1/2 years. Maybe they'll wear themselves out, like a toddler who squalls for an hour and then falls asleep.