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Thu Sep-24-09 01:32 PM
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Has anyone infiltrated a teabag like right wing gang? |
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I am going to do it. I am a Kentuckian and this murder of poor Mr. Sparkman has gotten me pissed off. I can pull it off too. I have been in some shitty places in this world and this has to stop. Murdoch and henchmen, OXY Rush,Bachmann... you all have the blood of this father and teacher on your hands. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:33 PM
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1. Convince them not to get vaccinated while you're there. n/t |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:34 PM
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:37 PM
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7. Yep, convince them that it's an Obama commie fascist plot. |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:35 PM
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3. Or, depending on your view, convince them TO get vaccinated. nt |
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:29 PM
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20. and that chemical castration makes them better soldiers for their white jesus. |
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Thu Sep-24-09 03:10 PM
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26. Chemical "Gelding". Make is sound a little sci-fi. |
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Fri Sep-25-09 07:22 AM
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Fri Sep-25-09 06:00 AM
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37. Fluoride in the vaccination |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:35 PM
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4. And tell them that to keep the gov. from stealing DNA and cloning them, they should get sterilized. |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:35 PM
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5. You're a better man than me, Charlie Brown. |
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I don't have the stomach for it. I'd be projectile vomiting at the first meeting.
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:04 PM
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17. Bet anyone can go to those meetings. Probably as dangerous as going to McDonalds. Good luck! |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:36 PM
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6. You really think you could find the killers if they are even there? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 01:59 PM by YOY
I mean you're talking one lone nut who lost his mind in a crowd of nuts who have half lost theirs.
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:38 PM
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Knowing what the enemy is up to is part of winning.
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:53 PM
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14. They're not the "enemy". They're the "rubes". |
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Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 02:10 PM by YOY
Don't even pretend that they have some kind of plan. They are the useful idiots who bellow whatever stupid shit they're told to bellow. Most of them are not criminals...just idiots...who have a good chance of owing back taxes.
Now the "enemy" if you think you can actually infiltrate them, are high-powered men like Rupert Murdock and Alan Greenspan who keep us tied up in this stupid little class war.
When you call them "the enemy" you really act like our end-goal is trying to do them harm. Funny thing is most progressive policies would help them.
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Fri Sep-25-09 10:56 AM
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My thoughts, but can't get to the big pricks but.. The ignorant thugs that put Hitler in power and were mostly passed by or killed ( night of the Long Knives) after they were not needed. Funny thing, for our gang of sheep, Progressive Policies would help them is so true I cannot fathom why they don't see it. Forty plus years of bad public education does that to a population... Oh my state land grant university tuition 1971 $165.00 semester now way over$2000.00. Even then you could earn that and more in the summer. Not now
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:59 PM
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24. Given some time, if the killer is in one of these groups he's going to brag. |
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If this was a politically motivated crime, the killer wants to send a message; he will brag about it to his trusted circle of like-minded friends, and possibly even to sympathetic-seeming strangers.
If the motive was drugs, and the "Fed" on the body meant someone thought he was a narc, the killer will still brag about it, but most likely to fellow drug traffickers (who may be right-wing extremists).
If the motive was something else, and "Fed" is a red herring meant to disguise the real motive, the information is unlikely ever to reach the teabagger info-stream; but a person watching that stream may find some interesting other stuff anyway.
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:39 PM
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9. I think Debra Winger did |
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Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 01:52 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
Can't remember the movie. Some weird militia and she had to pretend to be in love with its leader.
Ok - found it. Betrayed with Tom Berenger.
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:46 PM
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10. Best of luck, and protect yourself |
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They aren't exactly good people
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:51 PM
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11. The FBI and Secret Service have. n/t |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:55 PM
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15. Heh. I would love to see stats |
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On how many left-wing organizations have been infiltrated by the CIA/FBI vs how many right-wing ones. Given their long history of violence the right-wing organizations should probably have had far more organizations worth investigating.
But I bet we've spent more of our tax money investigating pacifists rather than violent extremists.
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Thu Sep-24-09 05:39 PM
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29. In the 1960s, one in three Klansmen were paid informants |
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If they're really subversive they probably won't let just anyone in. Probably only long time friends and family.
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:52 PM
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13. You're dumber than a box of rocks if you think you can pull it off |
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Why don't you leave the super secret squirrel stuff to the pros
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Fri Sep-25-09 05:46 AM
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32. I just love my country... sniff |
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Maybe not as smart as a coal bucket but I beat box of rocks on Jeopardy the pro's suck at their job remember Oklahoma City?
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Fri Sep-25-09 12:26 PM
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43. But are you smarter than a fifth grader? NT |
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Thu Sep-24-09 01:55 PM
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16. Good intentions, but it's not worth it. |
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Sanity sticks out like a sore thumb amongst the crazies.
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Don't move or I'll shoot the liberal.
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:06 PM
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18. What kind of info are you looking for? |
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And are you talking about a anti-govt para-military type group or just a silly tea-party group?
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:24 PM
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19. You are a better person than I for even thinking about it |
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I get so damn mad at the uneducated rantings that I am surprised my head hasn't popped off my body yet.
Now, I *could* do Billionaires for Wealthcare as the teabaggers seem hopelessly irony-impaired, but pretend to be one of them? I just couldn't muster that up.
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:30 PM
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The FBI has already planted moles in those groups, back when there was outrage at the Obama Administration's Homeland Security saying that we had a serious problem with homegrown terrorism coming from right wing extremist groups.
They have already created files on all of those within these teabagger groups, and they are about to take them down in a mass sweep to round up these terrorist groups. If anyone has had any involvement in these groups, the government is tracking them and keeping a record of everything they have done. They'll shit a meataxe when the government lists all the charges against them. After all, if they've done nothing wrong, then they have nothing to worry about. That's the way they wanted it after 9/11, so they have made a huge mistake thinking they could just go back to their militia caves and pick up where they left off. The fools don't realize that Rush & gang don't give a shit about them rotting in a prison.
Just stay away from them, because you don't want to find yourself caught up in the raids and sitting in a holding camp until you can see a judge months later.
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Sat Sep-26-09 09:28 AM
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48. So Kansas, when are the mass arrests going to happen?!! |
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I wanna get the popcorn ready and save the You Tube vids to my hard drive. Images of Tea Baggers getting frog-marched into riot vans would make a great siggy.
I've been waiting YEARS to see this! First the little fish, then the trophy fish.
Mannn, now I want seafood!
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Sat Sep-26-09 09:58 AM
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51. You've been listening to too much Glenn Beck. This is post reads like one of his rants. n/t |
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:32 PM
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22. Write to this guy and tell him you marched |
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I'm sure you'll meet plenty of rational people there. Firearms Training Institute. See my post http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6622201
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Sure seems like a nut group maybe they need instructors
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Fri Sep-25-09 11:51 PM
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44. sorry...forgot the sarcasm smilie! eom |
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Thu Sep-24-09 02:41 PM
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23. Have you done any undercover work before? Here's how: |
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Preparation: "Scrub" your identity. Get rid of any websites with identifiable personal information or photos of you. Dump Facebook or anything else that would connect your real name or face (or location) to left-wing anything. I cannot overemphasize the importance of this!!
Stage 1: Start small, go to one of their events, dress inconspicuously, and play dumb. Ask them to explain everything to you. Tell them something about how you weren't politically active until..<fill in the blank, I'd probably use some hot thing like "until they started wanting to take over health care">. Let them "educate" you.
Stage 2: Offer to do some of the scut work for their organization once they have started accepting you. (If they have called you to remind you to come to an event or meeting, you're to this level.) Stuff envelopes, make copies, drive people around. This makes you seem like you are a reliable member. Keep letting them "educate" you, especially the higher-ranking members.
Stage 3: Now you are getting in with the in-group. You should have access to some leaders now, and you can have them tell you "war stories" about things they've done in their struggle. Be impressed and never, ever be shocked or disturbed by *anything*. Keep them talking. Don't look scared even if you are.
Good luck!
Tucker
P.S. Be careful that you don't wind up believing their stuff. Make some time to retreat occasionally from their world and the character you are playing, and enjoy being who you really are somewhere they won't see you. Catching the craziness is to this kind of project what sampling the drugs is to undercover narcotics work--only the craziness can infect you without you noticing until it's too late.
P.P.S. Wait at least a few months before starting, because your DU profile has your location in it, so you can assume the groups near you will be looking out for an infiltrator. Scrub your identity!
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Thu Sep-24-09 03:15 PM
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27. I just can't pass for bat-shit crazy. Sorry. n/t |
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You forget I have had federal training. I fight the urge though.
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28. Your hobby of organic gardening is an asset, by the way. |
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You will have a nose into their tent just by saying that you are learning self-sufficiency for "when the shit hits the fan." They will probably ask for advice about gardening; give it freely.
And before I forget, DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES initiate any "actions" to try to build cred! Law enforcement and the Alphabets can afford to be agents-provocateurs, but a dedicated amateur attempting the same move will likely fail to make a bust in time and will be considered a co-conspirator. You don't want that.
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Thu Sep-24-09 05:50 PM
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30. I've made some of them think I did. |
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They were having one of their teabagging parties and I started telling them online how I was going to go pretend to be one of them just for the laughs. I didn't really have any intentions of doing it, just wanted them to squirm and wonder which one I was. I'm probably the most hated dem in my county and they don't know my real name so they were in a panic, lol. Good luck.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:24 AM
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39. Well, there's the crowd at the gun range. nt |
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Brings the image to mind of a bunch of guys wearing bandanas and do-rags sitting around scowling, fondling guns, and talking about thier 401K's. Thug life fo' sure! "Man, Donald Trump is OG, yo!"
LOL, "TeaBagger Gangs"
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Fri Sep-25-09 10:40 AM
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41. Thanks, I felt it appropriate |
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I guess I should have used bund
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Sat Sep-26-09 08:44 AM
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46. I don't think you would reach the darker levels where the |
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truly scary people are. These people are as paranoid as shit, and it might take w hile to even get near them. I wouldn't want to try.
You probably can get into some basic events.
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Sat Sep-26-09 08:58 AM
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47. If you do it be careful |
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Sat Sep-26-09 09:44 AM
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49. You've announced your plan, your name/location are on your profile, and you're all over the Net... |
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So unless you know someone who can change your name and ID, and your geographic location to boot, you'd be well-advised to not follow through with your plan.
As it stands now, it's possible that you've left yourself open to being on the receiving end of some strange behaviors by the far-lunatic wing of the lunatic party.
You can't be too careful nowadays. Seriously.
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Sat Sep-26-09 09:48 AM
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50. I'm on their local email lists |
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I have been to several of their rallies and signed up to get their emails. Then we planned a counter protest and surprised them :)
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Sat Sep-26-09 09:59 AM
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52. here's a look inside their world |
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Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 10:16 AM by Treo
Person who infiltrated a militia movement exposed (AKA person who will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANJ1EQBppIs&feature=PlayList&p=724767B5701E6212&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=89and amother http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJOooO7zkO4&feature=relatedAnd his side of the story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u58iMkn2cYk&feature=relatedYou'd better learn the fourteen words cause not knowing stuff like that is going to trip you up
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