Well I'll Be Damned - Turns Out Saddam Really DID Have WMDs!!!

[BlooInBloo]

If by "WMD", you mean "anything that explodes", that is.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/09/wmd_1.php#more?ref=fpblg

"Let's start by stipulating that conventional and even very low tech explosives like those used in Madrid and London are plenty dangerous enough. Even the 9/11 attacks, in a sense, we're driven by the jet fuel in the freshly fueled planes. But the WMD terror charges brought this morning against Najibullah Zazi remind us that federal law has an incredibly expansive definition 'WMD'.

As security technology expert Bruce Schneier notes here, according to federal statutes, any simple explosive device -- a bomb, grenade, landmine, rocket, etc. -- fits the definition of "weapon of mass destruction."

The statute definition also includes the things most of us think of in this category -- nuclear and biological weapons, radiological weapons, etc. But it includes everything else too.

That said, to date, in conventional warfare and terrorism, it's old fashioned explosives that kill the overwhelming number of people. The appearances of actual WMD (chem, bio, nuclear, etc.) anywhere is extremely rare. And even then it's seldom proved more lethal than the most up-to-date forms of conventional explosives. "

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Yes, Yes, Yes He Did, I tell youse.

Webkinz of Mass Destruction.

[gateley]

2. In the U.S. a sawed-off shotgun is considered a WMD. We know what Bushco

was implying, and it wasn't 'very low tech explosives".

[Sebastian Doyle]

11. Yet not a loaded AR-15, apparently....

...that's just considered a fashion accessory for "Christians". :eyes:

[armyowalgreens]

13. A sawed off shotgun is not considered a WMD...

It's considered anti-material IIRC.


And you can own one if you do some special tax paperwork with the ATF.

[gateley]

16. What's anti-material IIRC? A friend of mine's son was charged with having

a weapon of mass destruction because he was busted with a sawed off shotgun. I don't know the outcome (I moved away) but maybe the charge was dropped because it isn't considered one?

[armyowalgreens]

17. Anti-material is a controlled class of weapons...

Used to destroy non-human targets.

A 20 mm anti-tank rifle is anti-material.

Now I thought sawed-off shotguns were classified under "anti-material" laws. But I could be wrong.

IIRC= If I remember correctly.

[gateley]

19. Thanks! nt

[sui generis]

3. no wonder we invaded Waco

it was a damn sight cheaper than Iraq. :think: Hmmm. Maybe we should have invaded Houston.

[Treo]

4. Saddam DID have WMDs

And WE gave them to him. Seriously, he did have them , he used them on the Kurds and I believe he used them in the Iran/Iraq war. It's also widely speculated that "Gulf War Syndrome" was the result of WMD deployment during Desert Storm.

That said, he had a finite supply and was probably out by the time this war started

[BlooInBloo]

6. I agree - if you pretend to not know what time period I was talking about...

Many things can be said.

[Treo]

8. I brought my statement up to the beginning of the current war

Although God only knows what's buried out in that desert

[Echo In Light]

12. The imposed sanctions in the 90s that killed half a million were in place to get them to destroy ...

... what remained of those they got from the US

[armyowalgreens]

14. It was also postulated that GWS is a result of being exposed to depleted uranium rounds...

Used by the US armed forces.

[Greyhound]

5. "How do you know he has chemical weapons"? "We looked at the receipt".

RIP Bill

[Buzz Clik]

7. Explosive diarrhea?

:shrug:

That's pretty undesirable.

[BlooInBloo]

9. Eeew! Lol - I wonder how effective a "shit bomb" would be?

:rofl:

[armyowalgreens]

15. If it had SARS in it, we'd be in deep shit.

[zbdent]

10. pop tarts in a broken toaster ...

damn ... I better turn my RW brother in!

(I believe it was strawberry pop tarts, to be exact ...)

[BillDU]

18. This might hurt

The survivors of Hiroshima are breathing a sigh of relief.