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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:17 PM
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Is It Free Speech to Tell Another Person To Kill Somone?
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 02:20 PM by berni_mccoy
Is it Free Speech to tell another person to kill someone?

Is it Free Speech to tell another person that someone is out to kill them and that they should defend themselves when that someone has no intention of killing them?

Is it Free Speech to tell another person that someone is out to get them and that they should defend themselves when that someone has no intention of 'getting' them?

Is it Free Speech to tell a group of fearful people that someone will lock them up unless they do something about it when that someone has no intention of locking them up?

Knowing how a group of people will react if you shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, is it Free Speech to shout "FIRE!"?

Innocent people like Doctor Tiller and Bill Sparkman are dying because the Republicans are shouting "BABY KILLER!" and "INTERNMENT CAMPS!" at a group full of fearful people who live in fear already because they are taught to hate and not trust the ones who are actually trying to help them.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:18 PM
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1. no
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:19 PM
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2. No, it's called incitement and it is VERY illegal
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:20 PM
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3. Wonder how Bachmann would react to public calls for her execution
She might think it's not so funny then.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:21 PM
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4. There are a variety free speech restrictions and prior restraint laws...
And for the most part at least, rightly so.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:21 PM
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5. It's all free speech if you listen to a significant contingent here on DU
(who I consider to be trolls masquerading as Democrats).

Some people seem to think this is Libertarian Underground.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:22 PM
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6. No, the incitement of violence is not protected by the 1st Amendment
But government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting and likely to incite imminent lawless action:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0395_0444_ZO.html
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:31 PM
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7. Assuming they are not specific with who to kill, I'm assuming it is.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:48 PM
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8. In the real world,no.
In the bizzaro world we are in, anything goes.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:50 PM
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9. If somebody shoots Michelle Bachman, will you turn yourself in for murder?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:07 PM
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10. If you incite aren't you an accessory? I really don't know...n/t
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:01 PM
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11. It must be. After all money = free speech, so you can pay
someone to kill a political figure you don't like. That would be protected political speech for you, but not for the hitman because he or she did it for money. Then, too, you could do the assasination yourself as long as you intend it as a political statement it would be free speech. Same thing for torture, unelss you work for the government, in which case it is classified not as criminal violation but a "policy difference." <sarcasm>
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:10 PM
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12. hmmmm
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:10 PM
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13. No it is not legal actually. nt
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