I have two black students that absolutely HATE Obama

[greenbriar]

one says he is going to bring proof that Obama is "satan" and it is in the bible


His aunt works at the school and I talked to her. She is spitting mad because she loves Obama and knows that her son is the one that has put this crap in her nephews head.


She is going to talk with him tonight...


It is interesting how impressionable these students are


I know ...just because they are black doesn't mean that have to like Obama, but I know the families...obviously not every member, but I work with one of the students aunt and she was so giddy when Obama was elected ( and yes it was a little about race but more about the good of the country)




I just sighed and said when Reagan was president, there were people saying he was the anti-christ because Ronald (6) Wilson (6) Reagan (6) . I really have to be careful not to push my beliefs so I just told them that people can use all kinds of signs to sway beliefs to one side or another. I said they might want to do some research to see what Obama has done and is trying to do for the country before they make judgments based on some unproven theory.

we sometimes forget they are like a sponge

[DrDan]

1. is there a lot of difference between these students and those that

think he walks on water?

[JuniperLea]

8. No...

But there are more than those two groups, no question.

[DrDan]

13. thank goodness that is the case . . .

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

61. Is your definition of "walk on water" in the biblical sense?

I've yet to meet an Obama supporter who actually believes him to be the Messiah as the Rethugs like to imply. But clearly, there are people who think he is the literal anti-Christ.

[ShortnFiery]

2. One minor correction: "... two black students who ..." eom

[positrac]

20. post #10 too

:shrug:

[ShortnFiery]

39. LOL, I have a love-hate relationship with grammar.

That's what I deserve for enjoying my daily podcast of "Grammar Girl" ... to be forever frustrated. :-)

[Igel]

53. Lost cause.

Along with the "less/fewer" distinction, and the subjunctive.

I swear, I cringe when I read things like "It's important that the bill is passed by Congress" and realize that they meant to write, "It's important that the bill be passed by Congress." In the first, I wonder how it is that the bill's in the process of being passed and what that status is important. In the second, I understand it's an opinion and something that is yet future.

In Britain the subjective is completely dead except in formal writing; they're leading on this. It's nearly completely dead in American usage among those under 40. Oddly, it's mostly dead among those over 40; my little backwater preserved the subjunctive. (It completely lost the that/which distinction, however.)

[Arugula Latte]

3. Ah, religious insanity rears its ugly head yet again. nt

[Xipe Totec]

4. Dark skin protects against sunburn, not stupidity

Teh stupid come in all flavors.

[JuniperLea]

6. Amen!

No matter how you want to slice and dice society into little pieces, each group has an equal share of teh stoopid.

[REP]

58. Still, please be careful in the sun, no matter how light or dark the skin

Sorry, this off-topic PSA brought to you by someone with too many friends of all colors with sun-related 'nomas.

[Xipe Totec]

67. Good advice!

:hi:

[JuniperLea]

5. Little pictures...

have big ears!

I wonder why her son doesn't like Obama... curious.

[jonnyblitz]

7. they get it from parents who get it from preachers in church. nt

[JuniperLea]

12. Yep...

I'm sorely pissed at several pastors right now... my aunt and cousins were told by their pastor to only watch Faux Gnus, and not to listen to anyone who supports Obama! The fear of "God" is a horrible thing to do to people. Jesus is crying, I'm quite certain...

Edited to say, there are some really awesome Christian groups speaking out in favor... but they aren't ugly, hateful, toothless and stoopid, so they don't get shown on the news.

[Solomon]

14. Definitely the church.

He's a muslim you know. I have a brother-in-law who wouldn't let my sister put Obama signs in the yard because he's against Obama. Say what you want, but Obama is a muslim as far as he's concerned.

[Liquorice]

24. LOL It's pitchers. nt

[JuniperLea]

40. LOL... no it isn't...

That's a common mistake, though, sine the original 1500's mention was pitchers....

LITTLE PITCHERS HAVE BIG EARS - "Children hear and understand more than you think they do. The play here is on the resemblance of the ear to the handle of a pitcher. It is an ancient saying, having been recorded by John Heywood in 1546: 'Auoyd your children, smal pitchers haue wide eares.'" From "The Dictionary of Cliches" by James Rogers

The common American usage since the early 1900's refers to little pictures, who are silent like pictures on a wall, but have ears to hear all.

[Liquorice]

42. No, it really is pitchers. nt

[JuniperLea]

43. In 1540 it was pitchers...

It has since been changed... language changes.

[Liquorice]

45. No, it's the same cliche it has always been. Some people just say it incorrectly. nt

[virgogal]

25. Little pitchers have big ears.

[JuniperLea]

41. Do you know the origin? eom

[bertman]

46. The origin is probably from ten minutes after the original "pitchers" was referred to

and some innocent bystander didn't get the joke, so he started saying "pictures".

But seriously, there are hundreds of words that get corrupted from correct usage to "what somebody thought they heard". I hear it every day. It's especially common among folks who have disdain for "book-larnin'" or anything that resembles wide knowledge of word meanings.

Of course, I'm trying to come up with some quick examples and I can't think of one. But I will and I'll post it (or them) when I do.

Somebody help me out here!!

[Liquorice]

48. Well, I've heard the cliche, "it takes two to tango," said as "it takes two to tangle." LMAO That

is a pretty good example.

[SharonAnn]

59. Vanilla files (instead of manila files)

[Doctor_J]

9. The wacko right has managed to keep a few minorities on board with religion

Those 9% of blacks who voted for * in 2000 are under Jerry Falwell's spell. Black fundie-mentalists are on 700 Club TV regularly.

[The Straight Story]

10. I knew white students that did not like bush either (nt)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. Damn! That's what I was going to say.

You beat me to it. :)

[Nuclear Unicorn]

11. And many whites loved Bush...

...even though it was their kids he was sending off to die.

Insane: Now in a variety of fabulous colors to choose from!

[liberalhistorian]

15. So, because Obama is black, that then means that all blacks

must support him? Um...I don't think so. Just because you are a member of a group doesn't mean you have to give unqualified support to any other member of that group. If that were the case, then we gals would all have to support Bachmann or Coulter or Palin. Ugh.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

31. Very true but wouldn't it feel creepy if a male gynecologist asked you:

"Do those feel like regular menstrual cramps?"

REPLY: "How the @#$% would you know what regular menstrual cramps feel like, jerk-face!"

[Treo]

33. He never said he did

He asked YOU (the self-proclaimed expert)if (IYO) they felt like regular menstrual cramps

[Nuclear Unicorn]

47. I know what he means, silly

I was making a statement about the limits of empathy.

[Treo]

51. You got me there

Although, I did once grab my lower lip and try to pull it over my head. Epic, epic, fail.

[BlooInBloo]

54. The difference between men and women is biological; between black folks and white, social.

[U4ikLefty]

64. Wrong!!! The difference between men & women is also social.

Also the difference between white & black folks is also biological.

[BlooInBloo]

65. Fascinating.

[U4ikLefty]

66. Fascinating, Yet you made the distinction.

Interesting.

[BlooInBloo]

16. (shrug) It's not like white folks have a monopoly on stupidity...

Even if it looks like it sometimes.

[pecwae]

17. And so?

Children of color aren't entitled to an opinion no matter how you may feel about it so you squeal to the kid's aunt? Jeez!

[greenbriar]

35. It was more of the tone of the hatred that startled me

I am very careful to not push my ideology on to my children. When the idiot was president, the students never knew how I felt about him.

By token, they do not know who I voted for this last election. I only say now that he is the president and we respect the president

just like I said when the idiot was president.


I was just taken aback at the tone and mannerism which was so totally out of character for these young men

[blonndee]

I'm not sure why it matters that they're black

and I also don't understand why you felt the need to speak to his aunt about what he said. That sounds kind of weird to me, to be honest. :shrug:

[greenbriar]

21. I know the families, they were so glad that Obama was elected

and yes to them it was a little bit about race

[RedCloud]

26. O'Bama is not Irish?

Oh...

[tammywammy]

22. I agree

Seems a little strange.

[BlooInBloo]

28. Because we white folks enjoy pointing to certain black folks and saying...

"See???? They agree with me! That means it's not racism!".

Being that guy is basically Michael Steele's job, for example.

[greenbriar]

29. his aunt and I are friends. It was not a tattle tale moment

more like a WTF moment

[pipi_k]

37. I could be wrong, but I think part of the point

in mentioning they're black may have something to do with the many DUers who, whenever a white person says they hate Obama, the very first thing they screech is "RACIST!!!!"

Like it's not possible for a person...even a white person...to dislike/hate him for reasons other than race.

so mentioning that there are even some black people who dislike him sort of shores up the point...or should, anyway....that race isn't always the reason why people don't like him, as much as many DUers would like to believe race is the primary (or only) reason.

JMO
:)

[greenbriar]

38. Thank you for being a voice of reason

there are many on here that want to be pious

[blonndee]

55. How was my comment "pious"

or unreasonable? You failed to mention any of the things you posted in response in your OP. Sheesh, defensive much?

[positrac]

19. But does a sponge think?

Clarence Darrow still wants to know. :D

[question everything]

At one level, this is probably good

It means that Obama, indeed, transcends race. He can be loved, hated, admired and loathed by people of all background.

[Bill219]

23. I had a 45 minute discussion with my 6 year old the other night

He accidentally changed the channel on his TV from PBS Sprout and after trying to get back to it on his own he landed on CNN and they were talking about the statement from that asshat Grassley about killing grandma.

He was really terrified that the someone was going to come and kill his grandma..to the point of tears

He wasn't even on that channel for a minute but he heard "kill grandma" and that was all he needed to hear to freak out

These Republicans are idiots and need to start thinking before they say stuff like this.

[NNN0LHI]

27. Native Americans had their Tonto's too

Nothing new here.

Don

[butterfly77]

30. Remember, Bush ..

infiltrated the churches and paid off preachers to go along with his program and brainwash the congregations it stuck with some.

[YOY]

32. Well I guess it's not only stupid whitefolk who vote against their own self interests!

But it does seem to be a shitload more of stupid whitefolks.

[stray cat]

34. I'm white and I hated Bush and his policies

[burning rain]

36. What a surprise.....

a couple religious believers turn out to be dumb and superstitious.

[Xenotime]

44. Why?? This poor child has been brainwashed.

[Obamanaut]

49. Did you ever have any white students "that absolutely" hated

Bush? BTW, it should have been "who..." You don't teach English/grammar/creative writing, do you?

[greenbriar]

50. I do not have any students that showed that much vitrol no

that was why I was so taken aback


No I do not teach English/Grammar

and I hate grammar police :)

[Obamanaut]

52. OK..Good. Bummer. nt

[Arkana]

56. Are they religious?

Perhaps they're really socially conservative.

[greenbriar]

57. not from what I have seen from my friend and all of her family that I have met

which I think is why I was so surprised

[A-Schwarzenegger]

60. What do you teach?

:*

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

62. I know a black conservative who says Obama's election....

....was the worst thing to ever happen to black America. He is convinced that after the country sees his incompetence, they will never vote for any black person again.

[Toasterlad]

63. Are They Gay?

If so, I see their point.