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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:41 PM
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ACORN Files Suit Against Conservative 'Pimp' - And May Give Us A Look At His Funding
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 04:42 PM by Are_grits_groceries
This is going to be interesting, because under discovery, ACORN's attorney will have the right to look into videographer O'Keefe's financial records. Gee, I wonder if anyone else was funding him - and if so, who?

ACORN, the community organizing group embarrassed recently in a video sting, said Wednesday that it needs to determine whether it has major internal problems, but it also struck back, filing a lawsuit against the people who conducted the secret investigation.

http://crooksandliars.com/

Hmmmmmm........ Could be interesting.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:58 PM
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1. Uncle Morton?
Here's the link:
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/acorn-files-suit-against-conserative

I would love to see the incestuous web of fundies, lobbyists and politicians that are behind this, exposed.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:59 PM
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2. couldn't the inidividuals that were taped
sue him as well?

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:09 PM
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3. Yes, if it was done in a 2-party consent state.
Some states require that both parties consent to the taping, while others only require consent from 1 party--you can tape others without their consent. But both NJ and CA are 2-party states, so yes, I believe anyone taped has standing to either file a criminal complaint or sue.
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:29 PM
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6. Has anyone been successfully sued/prosecuted in such?
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 07:34 PM by karnac
I would agree o'keefe/giles are CLEARLY in violation of statute in question. However it's rather murky if they could be successfully prosecuted.

1. There have been at least a dozen or more, cases of "undercover" audio/visual tapings conducted by tv journalists in Baltimore over the past couple of years and even more over the past decade.. And they pretty much did what this pair did. A few even won prizes for excellence in investigative journalism.

The problem is why these two and not the others? "Selective prosecution" is REALLY frowned upon by the courts. It would be akin to making jaywalking a felony, yet only arresting that ONE guy who's race/politics you dislike. A severe nono. This is the kind of situation the the ACLU might get involved in whether they like it or not, just to be consistent. And do it for free.

2. You have to prove the defendant KNEW his taping is illegal. All he has to do is lie. Remember, he doesn't live in Maryland and his buddies are elsewhere. Just TRY to supoena someone from out of state to say he did know!

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/maryland.html

"Violations of the law are felonies punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years and a fine of not more than $10,000. Civil liability for violations can include the greater of actual damages, $100 a day for each day of violation or $1,000, along with punitive damages, attorney fees and litigation costs. To recover civil damages, however, a plaintiff must prove that the defendant KNEW it was illegal to tape the communication without consent from all participants. MD. Code Ann., Cts. & Jud. Proc. § 10-410."

Not sure how it relates to criminal prosecution, But if KNOWING it's a crime is important, and it's in the statute/interpretation, thats a hell of a mitigating circumstance.

3. You may not like it, but they are journalists. They write/produce stuff for the public to read/see/hear. Paid or not. All sorts of extra rights protect these people ranging from "Freedom of the Press" in the constitution to "Shield Laws". Do the tv news media in Baltimore know something we don't?

Still, might as well go through with it. Even if they win, probably worth the money just to make them sweat a little. Martyrdom be damned.



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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:18 PM
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7. Two of them are filing a criminal complaint
in MD tomorrow. See my OP right below this. And the California office is now contemplating another lawsuit as they have the same two person consent law as MD.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:31 PM
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4. Don't forget the right-wing foundations
They've kind of been overlooked with so much corporate cash flowing into the anti-reform movement, but the campus groups that O'Keefe comes out of have been major recipients of foundation money since at least the 90's.

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:54 PM
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5. K&R
:applause:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:19 AM
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8. K&R! The tide has turned against the turds
I hope Glenn BecKKK also faces charges for http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x369241#369370">being an enabler of their deceit.
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