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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:07 PM
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Senator Rockefeller Finds A Huge Loophole In The Baucus Bill
Senator Rockefeller pointed out that there was a gigantic loophole in the Baucus bill that would leave half of Americans subject to potential discrimination by private insurers. Apparently due to existing federal law, large companies can call themselves "self-insurers" even though they provide coverage through a major insurance company. These sort of self-insurance plans are mostly exempt from state regulations and are allowed to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

The regulations in H.R. 3200, the House health care bill, and in the Senate HELP bill, offer self-insured Americans protections against denial of coverage based on pre-existing conditions, no lifetime caps or annual caps on their coverage, and ensures they'll receive the same benefits as other employees in their workplace.

The loophole is that Senator Baucus's bill doesn't offer self-insured Americans these protections against denial of coverage, no lifetime caps or annual caps on their coverage, and basically leaves them out in the cold.

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/23/senator-rockefeller-finds-a-huge-loophole-in-the-baucus-bill/

Meh! The Baucus Bill is one big loophole with a few laws around the edge.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:10 PM
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1. I'm glad Rockefeller found it. nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:12 PM
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2. You pretty much knew it had to be there.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:53 PM
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13. Why? Without price controls, they can "offer" insurance for $1,000,000,000/year.
Why would they need a loophole?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:13 PM
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3. Using the self-insurance scam to avoid insurance regulation is nothing new.
Many companies have done this for years so they can in effect write their own policies with no oversight from insurance commissioners. They can put various copays, limits, etc. on the coverage. A common one is to exclude mental health and AODA coverage, or to set very low annual limits.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:13 PM
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4. We are going to have to build a monument to this man when this is over.
He is truly looking out for We The People at every step.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:14 PM
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14. Yes He Is looking out for All the people
Not just the Congress members
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:17 PM
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5. Meh indeed!
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 05:17 PM by Taverner
Actually change that Meh to a Feh!




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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:20 PM
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6. K&R n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:22 PM
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7. Sounds like a carefully crafted loophole
As most loopholes are.
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Joanie Baloney Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:22 PM
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8. The Baucus bill is one big loophole, alright
and Baucus is one big poophole.

:)

-JB
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:59 PM
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9. Why? Baucus We Can!
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:11 PM
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10. why is this all about Baucus and Snowe?
it ought to be about regular Americans.

but i guess regular Americans haven't donated enough money to lobbying for the cause.

probably because they are spending it on health care.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:19 PM
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12. It ought to be but it isn't. Baucus was put in charge of the committee that
was put in charge of figuring out health care reform and Snowe sits on that committee. Both are beholden to corporate greed it seems.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:17 PM
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11. That big ribbon tied gift to the private health care industry is what
Baucus's bill is about. It should be scrapped because it's a result of corruption and graft. Baucus and the other Senators who are corporate whores should be investigated for bribery and other corruption. Of course that would be most of them. I wish there was a way to turn off the money spigot, both from our Treasury to the Corporations who give some back to the Senators. You know it all comes out of our pockets.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:20 PM
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15. I am sure it was an accident.
It just had to be a mere oversight when the health insurance lobbyists Senator were was drafting the bill. :puke:
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