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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:27 PM
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Beck Faces Backlash - - From The Right
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_09/020105.php

BECK FACES BACKLASH -- FROM THE RIGHT....

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On Tuesday, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough blasted Beck, and argued that the Fox News personality may be fomenting violence. "You cannot preach hatred," Scarborough said. "You cannot say the president is racist. You cannot say things that have very deadly consequences." He added, in an apparent reference to the Oklahoma City bombing, "I was in Congress in 1995. I know where this can end." Scarborough also called on Republican leaders to "call out" Becks' "hatred."

Right-wing radio host Mark Levin called Beck "pathetic." Rush Limbaugh referred to Beck's role in promoting conservative protests as "cheap and disingenuous." Peter Wehner said Beck's "interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting" and his daily attacks are "not good for the country." Wehner called Beck a "roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger." Conservative columnists Kathleen Parker and David Brooks told Chris Matthews that Beck is "baiting" and "empowering" racists.


Today, Levin said of Beck:

"If you're not going to be politically sensible and have a strategy and have an end-game, you'll keep winding up on weekly magazines, you'll keep making a lot of money, but in the end you won't make a difference."


It's interesting to watch Beck's ideological cohorts (competitors?) trash the self-described "rodeo clown." In fact, it seems as if Beck may be marginalizing himself in a way that will, if we're all really lucky, make him permanently toxic to those who take politics seriously.

For that matter, it should send a signal to mainstream outlets: don't let Beck become your assignment editor. Even conservatives think he's nuts.


-Steve Benen
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:28 PM
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1. Now that's some refreshing news!
You've sunk pretty low when Scarborough thinks you've gone too far.
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:30 PM
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2. Rodeo clown my ass. That must be how he rationalizes his behavior in an attempt to salve his spirit.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:31 PM
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3. Excellent find!
This is priceless... thanks so much for posting!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:35 PM
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4. Love the dig at Time..I don't care who it
comes from..it's true.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:37 PM
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5. I wish that I could credit Beck's critics on the right with some motive more noble
than jealousy over his current popularity.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:56 PM
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11. Could it be, some GOPers have learned to read polls. Even when
Obama and Democrats have lost some followers(polls). These
people take an "Independent" position. They have not gone
to the Republicans. If Dems numbers go down, the GOP DO NOT go up.

Also, I do not think Beck's message appeals to Suburbia
at all. Likewise, I think they realize this type of speech
carries appeal in many states.

They cannot win elections with White Men only.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:38 PM
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6. I've thought for some time that his rise would prove disquieting
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 06:38 PM by Critters2
to Limbaugh, et al. More, I think, because of the competition than because of any ideological positions. They're all just putting on a show.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:46 PM
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7. Cat fight on the right!
Meow!
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:56 PM
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12. Laughing as the fur flies
Loving it! :popcorn:

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:46 PM
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8. Gee, an all-out food fight in the right wing dining room.
I absolutely love it.

I hope they tear the place to shreds.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:49 PM
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9. They are afraid he is stealing their audience
There are only so many wingnuts to go around.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:49 PM
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10. As for Limbaugh dissing Beck,
my guess is that Rush doesn't want Glenn usurping him as the main pied piper of the wing-nuts.
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janedum Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:09 PM
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14. Don't let these Rt. Wingers Fool You. They're JEALOUS of Beck ..
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 07:10 PM by janedum
THAT'S why they're bad-mouthing him.
They only WISH they could be as popular.
THey're ALL hate-mongers.
But Beck does it best, and Limbaugh, Scarborough and the rest can't stand that Beck has upstaged them.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:06 AM
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28. For sheer batshit crazy, yes
I actually feel sorry for Beck. If he believes what he says, and I think he does, then the poor man is suffering a psychotic break from reality and desperately needs treatment. But Fox, in their pursuit of the almighty ratings and Republicanism, won't get this suffering spirit the help he so obviously needs.
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SilverShield Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:09 PM
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13. This is going around Libertarian sites against Beck
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:06 PM
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15. Shit. They are finding out. Even though this is good for Obama's safety
It will put a damp on his impact to screw the pugs for good.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:09 PM
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16. Rush Limbaugh calling someone else "cheap and disingenuous"?
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

REALLY???

:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

I guess if anyone is an expert on that subject it's Huckster Limbaugh..

:rofl:











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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:09 PM
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17. jabba rush
is just jealous.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:16 PM
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18. They're just jealous.
This is just N'ya n'ya. We're gonna tell drivel from competing lunatic fringe bloviators. He's taking their news cycles away from them. :rofl:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:24 PM
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20. Jealousy and a little distancing...in case something does happen
They don't want to be associated with killers.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:17 PM
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19. Scarborough's realized that moderate is where the money is.
Interesting.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:48 PM
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24. Scarborough is realizing there are ratings in getting into a shit fight with Beck.
Nothing else. Ol' Joe isn't big on taking any kind of principled stand on anything unless it gets him ratings.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:30 PM
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21. Maybe seeing Beck on the cover of TIME sticking his tongue out . . .
like a twelve-year-old was the last straw.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:41 PM
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22. He ran out of ideas & started ripping off a previously discredited whackjob, SKOUSEN
He is SO whacked that he provides COVER to O'LOOFAH, LIMBOsevic, and HANNITY, making them seem more "NORMAL"!1




Whacked BecKKK's whacked hero:
One Willard Cleon Skousen, who worked/retired from the FBI and went on to be investigated by Miss HOOVER's FBI to the tune of 2,000 pages. I've always thought it was brilliant of LIMBOsevic that his main thrust in attempting to make Conservativism respectable when he first started was to ---purposefully, deliberately--- distance himself from the kooks, the BIRCHERs, the Trilateralists, etc. He would cut off all callers who started ranting on these topics. The same way he still cuts off those true followers who slip and let loose their true racist selves---------------INSTEAD of "disguising" themselves.


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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skous...

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck's life


Cleon Skousen was a right-wing crank whom even conservatives despised. Then Beck discovered him

By Alexander Zaitchik


.... But more interesting than the contents of "The 5,000 Year Leap," and more revealing for what it says about 912ers and the Glenn Beck Nation, is the book's author. W. Cleon Skousen was not a historian so much as a player in the history of the American far right; less a scholar of the republic than a threat to it. At least, that was the judgment of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI, which maintained a file on Skousen for years that eventually totaled some 2,000 pages. Before he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen's own Mormon church publicly distanced itself from the foundation that Skousen founded and that has published previous editions of "The 5,000 Year Leap."

As Beck knows, to focus solely on "The 5,000 Year Leap" is to sell the author short. When he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen had authored more than a dozen books and pamphlets on the Red Menace, New World Order conspiracy, Christian child rearing, and Mormon end-times prophecy. It is a body of work that does much to explain Glenn Beck's bizarre conspiratorial mash-up of recent months, which decries a new darkness at noon and finds strange symbols carefully coded in the retired lobby art of Rockefeller Center. It also suggests that the modern base of the Republican Party is headed to a very strange place. ....

...The city's ultraconservative mayor, J. Bracken Lee, fired him in 1960 for excessive zeal in raiding private clubs where the Mormon elite enjoyed their cards. "Skousen conducted his office as Chief of Police in exactly the same manner in which the Communists operate their government," Lee wrote to a friend explaining his firing of Skousen. The man is a master of half-truths. In at least three instances I have proven him to be a liar. He is a very dangerous man (and) one of the greatest spenders of public funds of anyone who ever served in any capacity in Salt Lake City government." ....

...Skousen laid low for much of the '60s. But he reemerged at the end of the decade peddling a new and improved conspiracy that merged left with right: the global capitalist mega-plot of the "dynastic rich." Families like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, Skousen now believed, used left forces -- from Ho Chi Minh to the American civil rights movement -- to serve their own power. ....

"Skousen's personal position," wrote a dismayed Quigley, "seems to me perilously close to the 'exclusive uniformity' which I see in Nazism and in the Radical Right in this country. In fact, his position has echoes of the original Nazi 25-point plan." ....

Skousen may have been too extreme for the Quorum of the Twelve in Salt Lake City, but he soon found rehabilitation on the intellectual margins of Reagan's Washington. In 1980, Skousen was appointed to the newly founded Council for National Policy, a think tank that brought together leading religious conservatives and served as the unofficial brain trust of the new administration. At the Council, Skousen distinguished himself by becoming an early proponent of privatizing Social Security. He also formed relationships with other evangelical church leaders and aligned the LDS church with an increasingly religious GOP. ....

..."The Making of America." Besides bursting with factual errors, Skousen's book characterized African-American children as "pickaninnies" and described American slave owners as the "worst victims" of the slavery system. ....

"The 5,000 Year Leap" is not the only Skousen title to find new life on the 912 circuit. The president of the National Center for Constitutional Studies, Dr. Earl Taylor Jr., is currently touring the country offering daylong seminars to 912 chapters based on Skousen's "Making of America." For $25, participants will receive a bagged lunch and stories about America's religious Founders and their happy slaves. An ad for Taylor's "Making of America" seminar, currently featured on the Web site of the Tampa 912 Project, claims that Skousen's book is "considered a great masterpiece to Constitutional students (and is) the 'granddaddy' of all books on the United States Constitution."

Like so much declaimed by W. Cleon Skousen and his 21st century acolyte Glenn Beck, this last statement is fantasy. But it is also a profitable and popular one. In coming to terms with a movement that has an ever more tenuous relationship with accepted fact, we relearn that perennial lesson grasped even by J. Edgar Hoover's FBI. Fantasies can have serious consequences.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:45 PM
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23. Limbaugh disagreeing with Beck? Link? Really? They are on the same page IMO. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:05 AM
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27. Here:
(and apologies for citing politico-can't stand them)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27282_Page2.html

Glenn Beck vs. Rush Limbaugh
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:17 AM
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30. Thanks for the link. nt
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:51 PM
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25. I'll believe it when I see it.
All I've seen so far are a few Repukes paying lip service to "being responsible" when pressed on it, and a couple RWers looking to get in a shit fight for ratings.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:53 PM
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26. rush has no room to talk
what a prick
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:11 AM
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29. they are ALL scum. pimples on the ass of humanity, every one.
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