tinkerbell41
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:34 AM
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Can anyone explain the Czar thing??? |
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I don't get it. I keep hearing Czar's mentioned or seeing it in print. Why the uproar? What does it mean? I get some part that Obama has appointed A Czar to something, is this a made-up so called bogeyman???
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:35 AM
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1. It's a media word meaning someone appointed to head up something. |
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They did the same thing with Shrub, but nobody paid much attention.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:38 AM
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Using "czar" was first done by the Nixon administration. Funny how they forget that, eh?
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:36 AM
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2. Something about cabinet level position and power |
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Given to people who are not confirmed by congress.
It started back under FDR with temporary positions.
Kinda morphed to permanent ones these days.
That's the gist as I see it now.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:37 AM
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3. It's definition drift. |
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When a Republican appoints a Czar it's to fix a problem. You know, like drugs.
When a Democrat appoints a Czar it's like "Autocrat of All Russias"
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:48 AM
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15. And of course Communist - since Russia is the land of Commies. n/t |
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:52 AM
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18. Yeah, but in Russia - the communists killed the czar |
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Fri Sep-25-09 09:01 AM
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19. So you are saying that the communists had a relation with the czar? It all fits together n/t |
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:38 AM
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4. Short name for a long title. |
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E.g., the Drug Czar is really the Head of Drug programs, Special Action Office of Drug Abuse Prevention. Easier isn't it?
Everything else you hear is bullshit.
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tinkerbell41
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:46 AM
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So it has been made into a bogeyman term. Jesus! It's like this ACORN thing, never heard of them now suddenly it's like they are the be all end all to every problem. The name is on everyone's lips, my brother (who has no clue about current events) sends me a news clip about ACORN. WTF??
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:38 AM
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5. No. No one can. Ask Glen Beck, he's got a blackboard. |
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:41 AM
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7. Another Bright Shiny Toy... |
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Another talking point, another meme...another boogie man for hate radio and faux noise to throw to the parallel univerese. It means little to anyone with an common sense.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:42 AM
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8. it's a code word - signalling to those "in the know" about Obama's |
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continuing support of communism . . . .
Learned that from Beck.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:47 AM
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12. Beck Must Have His History Confused... |
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the Bolsheviks had a very different take on the Czars.
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Fri Sep-25-09 09:37 AM
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20. no doubt beck is confused . . . about most things |
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Did you see Keith last night - he (beck) was supporting the constitutional tax on importation of slaves . . . his is plain nuts
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:43 AM
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9. It is like ACORN a whole bunch of stuff about nothing. |
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The first czar was under Nixon and many Presidents have had them since then. And also too (props to S. Palin) the communists forced out the czars in Russia so when people yell that Obama is a socialist they are dead wrong. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,908276,00.html
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:47 AM
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I just realized it. Kind of thought that was it.
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:44 AM
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10. This explains it pretty well |
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:49 AM
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:47 AM
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14. Coined by Nixon, embraced by Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, but they are Obama's fault. |
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He apparently time-traveled to FDR's time to start the practice.
Obama can do ANYTHING!
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Fri Sep-25-09 12:15 PM
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23. Was actually coined by the press in FDR's time. |
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Fri Sep-25-09 08:51 AM
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17. Based on the Drug Czar's results over 40 years, I would say |
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they either do nothing or give aid and comfort to those they are supposed to oppose.
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Fri Sep-25-09 09:43 AM
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21. They were monarchs in Russia and Bulgaria |
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The last Russian czar, Nicholas II, abdicated power in 1917 as a result of the February Revolution. He and his family were then executed by Bolsheviks a year later. It is still a matter of speculation whether some of his family members survived and lived in exile.
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Fri Sep-25-09 09:45 AM
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22. It's like they were abducted for the entire Reagan era - drug czar. We were pounded |
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with it. Everytime a new one was named, it made the news. Every person who held the position was on the news for propaganda purposes.
Hey, Mr and Mrs Foxlovers - there is no Secretary of Drugs. But there is an appointee who has been given that nickname. Drug czar.
There have been commies in the White House for decades if you believe that Czar is commie.
Wake up. Pay attention.
Why can't Democrats become more organized to fight the head buried crowd.
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Fri Sep-25-09 12:18 PM
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24. Bob Cesca does a pretty good job. |
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Fri Sep-25-09 12:40 PM
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25. Recent activity sounds like a new talking point |
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created by people like Frank Luntz or others to criticize any appointment of special adviser by Obama. Wordsmiths like Luntz are at work in creating negativity with use of the word "czar." Like he did with "death tax." Phony non-issue issues that capture attention of the media and non-thinking segments of the public.
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