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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:45 PM
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Rielle Hunter is a Manic Pixie Dream Girl.
So was George W. Bush. MPDGs don't always have to be female.
So are evangelical megachurches. MPDGs don't even have to be human.

What is a Manic Pixie Dream Girl?

Film critic Nathan Rabin coined the term after seeing actress Kirsten Dunst in the 2005 movie Elizabethtown. The Manic Pixie is, in his words, "that bubbly, shallow cinematic creature that exists solely in the fevered imaginations of sensitive writer-directors to teach broodingly soulful young men to embrace life and its infinite mysteries and adventures."
--NPR


Someone on DKos described RH as a “clichéd character from a movie”, and as it turns out, that’s exactly what she is.

Manic Pixie Dream Girls are the perfect fount of wish fulfillment. The embodiment of a fantasy, all the promises of The Secret and Tony Robbins personified. The MPDG is more positive, more fabulous, more fascinating than anybody in real life could hope to be.

No matter that the MPDG has no inner life of their own. No matter that in movies, she exists only to serve the needs of the male lead. No matter that in real life, MPDGs are usually insufferably self-absorbed.

American society loves MPDGs. Americans need positive thinking and relief from stress too much. MPDGs provide this valuable service, in spades. They’re not going away.

*~*~*~*

How could John Edwards resist? His real life was getting too onerous. He needed escape. He needed a booster of positive energy. He didn't care where it came from, or the character of the person providing it. He just needed it now.
He already KNEW real love and partnership from Elizabeth... but sometimes, real people just don't provide emotional relief quickly enough.
He was telling the truth when he said he didn't love RH. MPDGs by definition are creatures of intense, fleeting fancy... not long-lasting love. But damned if it doesn't feel like you're falling in love. And that's enough for too many time-starved, desperate-for-release Americans.

His warning is our warning. Remember, in 2000 and 2004, half our country fell to the seductions of that Manic Pixie Dream President, Dubya Bush. Promising safety from terra-ists, but also from having to be straddled with a President who just didn’t “dazzle” us enough. In other words… John Kerry wasn’t enough of a MPDG for us.

And the fallout from our country choosing the MPDG has been about as disastrous for us as Edwards’ choice of the MPDG has been for his own life.

*~*~*~*

We may laugh at them, but in real life, MPDGs are dangerous. Socially dangerous.
For they are custom-built for our emotional needs, individually and collectively.

Our society places a high premium on positivity. Our customer service-oriented jobs enforce cheerfulness, and our Senate is one big happy social club.

Americans value getting along over everything else in the world, and it has very little to do with kindness, courtesy and even empathy.
Rather, getting along is about being non-threatening. Approachable. Suitable to be a corporate spokemodel. It's the spokesmodel's job not to tell the truth. That would be too negative, would reflect too badly on their company's brand... and they'd be looking for another job very soon.

Getting along has become about managing what others think of you. What our parents told us about being happy by not worrying about what others think of you, is a lie.
How others perceive us has very real consequences for our paychecks, our relationships, even our ability to contribute to the world. Contributions from those perceived as social hubs, are still rewarded more than contributions from those perceived to be on the social fringes. Look at Dennis Kucinich.

{G}iven that well-connected people are likely to pass on health benefits to a greater number of people, should medical interventions be directed preferentially at social "hubs"?

-- review of "Connected", by Nicholas Christakis and James Fowler


We watch people who go along to get along, continually reap the highest rewards of our society and command not only gigantic paychecks, but the approbation of their social circles, and by extension society. People see that social success-- who wouldn't prefer to be a social hub?-- and they emulate it... thereby creating more people who go along to get along.

People see the social support offered by an evangelical megachurch, see the obvious niceness and likeability of most fundamentalists, and they're hooked. Why wouldn't anyone want to be in the company of such nice people? Look at their happy spouses and respectful children! What's a little second-class citizen status as a woman? It's but a small price to pay for having such a rewarding social network, for having genuine happiness, for having a genuinely positive outlook on life.

In this environment, real people simply cannot compete with MPDGs. They can't hold a candle to that super-concentrated boost of positive thinking and approachability.
Americans are stressed out, under time pressure, discombobulated by all the mixed messages from the media about how best to live your life, and how best to relate to others. They want speed. They want clarity. They want instant gratification. They want to feel happier, NOW.

MPDGs provide.

And we watch as real-world consequences arise. Our jobs and promotions are given to them. We get pushed to a more peripheral social position in favor of them. And if we dare complain, we're called anti-social, negative, and told to lighten up. Sometimes, our mental health and our neurology are called into question.

Pretty strong social enforcement favoring MPDGs.

And it doesn't help at all that too many misguided authenticity-seekers give themselves free rein to be mean, callous, even sociopathic... or at the very least, take their discourse lessons from Joe Wilson; and call that "authenticity". It makes keeping it real that much more unattractive… and us thereby that much more susceptible to the "charms" of a MPDG.

The power of MPDGs speaks to the dearth of any real wonder or joy we feel in our own lives. It speaks to feeling completely powerless to make our lives more extraordinary. It speaks to our collective inability to rise above mere going along to get along, and our losing sight of what real social solidarity, and real love, are like.

Edwards lost his formerly eagle-like eyes on it, when he let himself in a period of weakness succumb to fast-food positivity. Our anger towards him is as much about him forsaking the authentic in favor of the comfortable, as anything else.
Our anger toward our Senators comes from their putting comfortability over the needs of the country. Of putting their own social networks over a greater goal.

Comfortability is our enemy.

It won’t be easy to wean ourselves from it. It’s a basic instinctual need. Following it is, tragically, necessary to maintain our social support systems.

Our challenge, as progressives, is to decouple it from relationship building. So that our social networks are founded on true companionship and common purpose—being a true “team player”—and not on the least-resistance path of going along to get along.

So we no longer feel the need to seek out an MPDG... or feel the pressure to become one.




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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:50 PM
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1. Curse those magical pixies...
...they make men put their penises in places they don't belong!

*shakes fist*
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:53 PM
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2. You're missing my point.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 12:53 PM by MonteLukast
And based on the timing of your response, I don't think you read more than the title.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:53 PM
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3. Hunter isn't a fictional character. She's a real human being who did what many a human's done before
John Edwards?

The same.

Two individuals who hooked up for their own selfish reasons.

It's as mundane as that.

And I'm not interested in psychoanalyzing either actor in this tawdry soap opera played out on the national stage.

Maybe there will be a Lifetime movie made about this whole thing.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:54 PM
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4. She played the part of a wish-fulfillment character.
Seriously, look beyond the shiny object name to the rest of the piece.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:04 PM
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6. Why? The behavior on both actors part was totally human. So human it's cliche.
Why a small number of DU'ers seem to want to delve into the psyches of these two in an attempt to exonerate Edwards in the court of public opinion is beyond me.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:07 PM
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9. It's also an attempt to connect it...
... to a wider observation on our society.

It's not just about Edwards.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:09 PM
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10. Maybe it's because before we rush to judgement we try to
understand the motivations of the people involved. Isn't that what Liberals and Progressives do?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:14 PM
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16. And what role did Edwards play, does it have a name? (nt)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:25 PM
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21. I would guess, just as a comic needs a straight man to set him up,
the MPDG needs someone who is vulnerable, willing, and somewhat desperate to take the moment at face value.

He played the only part available to someone who gets involved with a MPDG. Without a foil, the MPDG would not exist - they define each other.

The appropriate title might be 'schmuck'.

Been there, done that.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:28 PM
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22. Tom Hansen?
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:41 PM
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27. Great flick!
Wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:29 PM
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52. I loved that movie, too.
Saw it twice!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:01 PM
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5. Great post!
I wish I could write like that. :)
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:05 PM
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7. It takes lots of practice.
And, I'm sorry to say, a lot of experience of people telling you that you talk in circles, and your repeat yourself, and all you do is spin. Thanks, Dad.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:46 PM
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29. I read the blog post about Amazing Girls that you linked.
Awesome. Someone put my inchoate rage about that type of woman into words.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:05 PM
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8. Sometimes a misdirected, ill-chosen fuck is just a misdirected, ill-chosen fuck.
Not a whole lot of analysis is needed.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:12 PM
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12. Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, there is much more involved. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:13 PM
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15. Sometimes it's fun to fuck and it's best if people don't pry into your business
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:09 PM
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31. Good luck with that if you're a Democrat. But if you're an R, it's OK.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:11 PM
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11. Man, "Elizabethtown" was a painful movie to watch
Who makes a rom-com that long?
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:46 PM
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38. You think that's bad? Try Natalie Portman in "Garden State". (n/t)
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:28 AM
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43. Or Geena Davis in "The Accidental Tourist"...
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:06 PM
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49. Good point.
I like Kirsten Dunst as a rule, and warmed up to her as the film went along, but her first ten minutes I wanted to put a brick through the screen.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:12 PM
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13. Great Post! I hope some people around here get who you are really talking about.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 01:49 PM by earth mom
Obama.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:12 PM
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14. Pixies are from the devil!
BURN them!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:18 PM
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17. Ha! I thought this was a critique of her hair color.
But it's "Manic Pixie" rather than "Manic Panic," so carry on. :)
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:29 PM
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25. I like your sense of humor. (n/t)
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:35 PM
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26. It'd be funnier if our bathroom didn't look like a rainbow battlefield.
But I love my wife and her constant quest to find the most outrageous combination of unnatural hair colors. :)
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:18 PM
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18. "Getting along has become about managing what others think of you."
I can't help but think of Facebook and other social networking sites.

I guess I'm one member of American society who doesn't love Manic Pixie Dream Girls. Kirsten Dunst, in that movie role and in general, annoys the hell out of me. And I have low tolerance for the Rielle Hunters of the world.

Interesting read.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:23 PM
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19. When was getting along not been about managing what others think of you?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:29 PM
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24. I knew one for a while
Emphasis on the "manic" part.

Also emphasis on the three thousand dollars of mine that evaporated in her company.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:23 PM
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20. Comfortability is our enemy - that says it all
Hey I'm going to go buy a new couch after work - maybe i should rethink that.

Bryant
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:29 PM
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23. you`ve been here since 05 and you have only 1300+ posts.....
you need to post more! big tip of the hat to you.....
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:42 PM
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28. I like some positivity
I am reading Vonnegut's last 'novel' and he seems to be unrelentingly negative.

I don't think the choice is between a Manic Pixie Dream Girl and the unrelieved cruel reality. Total negativity is no more real than total positivity.

I think part of what you are saying is like our cultural obsession with "falling in love". Our love stories are all about 'courtship'. In courtship everything is awesome. The other person is so cool and is also trying to woo you. It's a Rocky Mountain high.

Then there's real life. You've been together for five or six years. You've put on weight, you have arguments, you've seen each other at their worst, etc. Well if a new person comes along, then you can fall in love all over again with somebody new. Somebody who appreciates you instead of knowing and seeing all of your flaws (and perhaps constantly telling you about them).
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:50 PM
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30. lol...i always wondered if there was a name for them...
looking back, i could never figure out in my subconscious why I was such a devoted watcher of "Dharma and Greg" in the 90s...Now I know fully...
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1955doubledie Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:12 PM
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32. I refuse to cast stones at Edwards, and no one else should either
after all, some wise guy a couple of thousand years ago said, "He who is without sin..." Maybe no one here has ever had an affair, but we ALL have given in to temptation at one time or another.

Having said that, I think it's a huuuuge stretch to compare Edwards' affair with people voting for Dubya in 2000 and 2004. :wtf:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:58 PM
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33. This is a great and true piece of writing, except for the Kucinich part. K&R!
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 05:02 PM by Berry Cool
(Kucinich makes his own set of problems, which I won't go in to here. But his problem isn't failing to be a MPDG.)

Edited to add: Reading the comments, I already see that some people really don't like your insight...chances are it's because they themselves are vulnerable to the charms of the MPDG and don't want to admit it!
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:50 PM
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40. Sometimes I am, too.
Chances are it's because they themselves are vulnerable to the charms of the MPDG and don't want to admit it!

Their positive outlook IS infectious. The thing is, what about people who are naturally cheerful but who don't want to be MPDGs? They kind of have a nasty pattern of being lumped together.

The irony is, Edwards himself could have been considered a MPDG at various stages in his career. That's some more of the vitriol towards him... he reminds us too much of the ever-smiling employee of the month who not only stole our promotion, but who caused our boss to doubt our people skills.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:08 PM
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34. One of the most insightful posts here in a while.
Thank you.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:03 AM
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45. You're welcome.
Thanks-- I worked hard on this.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:39 PM
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35. The thing I find amazing about Hunter
She is not beautiful. She is not anything I would imagine the normal heterosexual male would stare after as she walked down the street.

I can't imagine what he saw in her, after being married to a woman who personifies beauty, intelligence and wit.

I'm wondering if it's the fact that Hunter must project a huge amount of sexual confidence. Let's face it, even if I were unmarried, I'd have a tough time walking up to any man and telling him he was "hot".

:shrug:
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:28 PM
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36. Many great seductresses throughout history were not beautiful.
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 08:44 PM by MonteLukast
Seduction is more about appealing to the heart and the mind, than the body.

Catherine Sedley, mistress of King James II, for one. Tullia d'Aragona, too tall and thin to be considered beautiful in her day, for another. The coloratura soprano, Pauline Viardot-Garcia... with "a fine intellect and a good heart, but very ugly", for another.

But, HUGE differences between RH and the rest of them: Catherine had sharp wit and keen intelligence. Tullia was well-versed in arts and literature. Pauline was one of the greatest singers of her generation.
Ergo, they compensated for their lack of conventional beauty with grand artistic accomplishments, intellectually stimulating conversation, or just plain being decent human beings. RH has nothing... nothing but her putative sexual confidence.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:20 AM
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42. MonteLukast, I gotta' ask
Where have you been all my life? ;-) Seriously. I really liked your original post, and your response is fascinating as well.

>Seduction is more about appealing to the heart and the mind, than the body.<

Absolutely. The men I find captivating are those with intelligence, humor and compassion to go along with the outer package. Anyone can be gorgeous/handsome. What's inside?

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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:03 AM
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44. That's what I really find sad about this whole thing.
I thought Edwards was resistant to MPDGs. I thought he was one of those men with intelligence, humor and compassion. A man with his particular life experiences ought to have been inoculated against straying.
Some will disagree with me, but I think that this indeed was his first affair, for both his and Elizabeth's reactions strongly suggest it.
This affair is different from any other I have seen. One of the most bizarre things to me was that even right in the middle of the affair, he did not change his level of affection for Elizabeth. He does not appear to be very good at this philandering thing.

Oh well... I've got Kerry, Biden, Dean and other intelligent, progressive men (with just enough rakish good looks) to admire from afar ;)

And don't get me started on Anthony Weiner. Weiner For President 2016!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:39 PM
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37. John just needed a hot lay. He could have gone to a stripper club. n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 08:40 PM by UTUSN
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:09 AM
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46. You do know, don't you, that most strippers are not prostitutes? (nt)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:46 PM
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39. Who cares? Edward's power dreams are squashed. It's of no consequence. eom
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:23 PM
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41. Your post is exceptional....
I really relate to it and I am passing it on to several of my friends for their thoughts. The 'go along to get along' trend has been the most frustrating thing I have witnessed in my corporate IT career, after 35 + years. I don't remember this trend being so pervasive in my early years in corporate life. Your thoughts on the time line / trend of this ?

Great writing and observation....
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:23 AM
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47. I don't really know...
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 02:25 AM by MonteLukast
I do know that about 15-20 years ago started the whole "married people are happier and healthier" meme. Starting with Linda Waite in her Case For Marriage... which was praised by Maggie Gallagher, Bill Bennett, even Robert Bork (!) even though she apparently called herself a liberal Democrat.

Then we had the studies linking religiosity to happiness and good health.

Remember those stupid studies in the 80s about how women over 35 were more likely to be struck by lightning or killed by a terrorist than get married? Women, all but the dumbest ones anyway, quit buying it. So Linda Waite and friends took the next step: no more outlandish claims or scare tactics. You've got to sound plausible... to appeal to women or anyone who trusts in cold hard facts.
If these authorities doing research say it's true, it must be true, right? (Pay no attention to the financial contribution from the American Family Association, there...)

And you know damn well that we will ALL sit up and pay attention if you link our health outcomes to any particular behavior. In this era of health non-care? You say married people are healthier, we're gonna say, give me that diamond ring NOW!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:42 PM
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53. I attended my 30th high school reunion last weekend
>You say married people are healthier, we're gonna say, give me that diamond ring NOW!<

I was one of the few married to my "original" husband in attendance. To say that there were some exceedingly unhappy married folk there is an understatement. Even a week later, I'm a little stunned.

We were told that this was the key to happiness -- find one person and settle down -- but I'm wondering why I bought this, where in other areas of my life, I ignored the conditioning. For instance, we didn't have children. By choice.

The current (Millennials) generation is supposedly more traditional. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the definition of marriage in the next twenty years.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:40 AM
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48. You overcomplicate the reality.
The reality is that most Americans live in a fantasy world created largely by the corporations. Most Americans not only cannot deal with reality, they prefer the fantasies and refuse to deal with issues. In other words, most Americans are not only apathetic, but pathetic as well.

Much of the food we are sold (and eat) today is Frankenfood. It is designed for good looks and long shelf life. Our food is full of preservatives, artificial color, and artificial flavors. I feel fortunate in having grown up before the chemical industry took over the food industry.

Drug advertising permeates the media. Such advertising permeates prime time television. Most of it cures nothing. It may alleviate some symptoms, but if you notice the side effects, it is just as likely to kill those who take it as make them feel better. "Ask your doctor about...drug" amounts to promoting self-medication. The cost of the drug has to cover the billions spent on advertising for it. People who take drugs they saw advertised on TV are no better off than those who take illegal drugs.

Jobs have been deskilled to the point where most workers have been reduced to robots, whose sole function is to make profit for the corporation. Craftsmanship and quality work, which sometimes take a little more time to achieve, are frowned upon. The higher up you look in a corporation, the dumber management becomes, and the more futile a goal of "doing a good job" becomes.

Education has been dumbed down and politicized with stupid mandates like No Child Left Behind (NCLB) so that students locating France in the middle of South America becomes less surprising.

Since the goal of the corporatocracy is to maximize (not merely make) profit, it should be no surprise that they purposely ensure NOT to satisfy their customers. Pharmaceuticals are designed to alleviate symptoms, so that you will keep buying them, but not cure you, in which case you would stop buying them. If these drugs they promote are also addictive, so much the better.

Entertainment, like pornography, is designed to tease, and make the user want more titillation. Except for The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and an occasional movie, there is little on television that is truly funny. (Tina Fey's caricature of Sarah Palin was very funny.) Action movies are full of mindless violence that has no point to it. Monster movies are no longer creepy, merely disgusting.

In olden times, just about everything was expected to last, and so stuff was repairable. Today, few goods are repairable, and the cost of repair often isn't worth it.

When we look at the health care industry in this country, the corporations obviously believe that most people aren't worth "fixing" either.

We don't have to hypothesize a MPDG to understand Americans. Whether drugs, or gambling, or affairs, Americans cannot cope with their reality and seek any kind of escapism that comes along.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:18 PM
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50. man, you hit about everything. yes
lol to your post. and i love reality. that is why i am standing looking at the world with mouth hanging open.

give me reality over illusion any damn time

but you nailed it
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:22 PM
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51. cpdswallop. it doesn't get sillier or more pretentious than your post.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:19 PM
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54. MPDGs use their powers for good, not evil.
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 09:24 PM by Gwendolyn
As you said, they exist only to push the male protagonist to his spiritual eureka moment. And they have no inner lives, history, or future. The closest we've gotten to continuing story MPDGs were in the form of the who-can-turn-the-world-on-with-her-smile MTM, and diamonds-daisies-snowflakes That Girl shows. That's not Rielle Hunter. Back when she was Lisa Druck she lived through incest and was the poor little rich girl in the center of that horrible horse electrocution story. We know all about her sad life. She was immortalized by Jay McInerney and Brett Easton Ellis in the character of drugged-up, empty-sex promiscuous Alison Poole, not a particularly happy, upbeat character. She just doesn't fit the parameters of a MPDG. Destroyed marriage, public embarrassment, career aspirations dashed, hmmm... not the usual ending for a MPDG story. :D
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:31 AM
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55. She *presented herself* as a MPDG.
In whatever mixture of cold manipulation and starry-eyed delusion, she basically presented herself as the perfect companion for JRE. She molded herself into "exactly what he ever wanted and dreamed of". To a man who wants an escape, a boost of positivity and a willing ear, that person is a MPDG.

There's a name for people who do that self-molding-to-the-point-of-Xeroxing thing. They're called sociopaths.

Yes, sex with a sociopath is magical, but not worth the hassle of the emotional trauma they can cause. I dated a guy who was not physically my type, made no money, etc. etc. But, he was one charming person, molding himself to fit my every desire and need, but it was insincere and greedy. When I was resistent to him, he chased me with more intensity. ... He was bright, attentive and caring, but remember, if it seems too good to be true, you might want to run down the list of sociopathic characteristics and beware.

--"mazzystar" from the above Ehow thread


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:01 PM
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56. Please don't romantacize or try to put a societal face on this. Men cheating on their
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 01:02 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
wives is nothing new and of course began when monogamy became part of marriage and adultery made it on to The Ten Commandments.

She came on to him, as I guess hundreds of thousands of women on this planet come on to married men every day (& visa versa), he found it flattering and he thought with his other head.

You are making Riele into a mythical figure and she just isn't.

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