Did President Obama just prevent another 9/11??

[kentuck]

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The evil of Najibullah Zazi appears staggering. Participation in a plot to use chemicals to kill mass numbers of American men, women and children on 9/11 in New York is despicable. Who are all the accomplices? I sure hope the FBI knows.

A new President was about to be tested in the first year of his first term by a 9/11 attack as suffered by his predecessor. One big difference -- this attack got stopped by the federal government.

Where is Dick Cheney? He just had back surgery and I hope he is feeling better and strong enough to get to a microphone (Rush Limbaugh is always willing to have him on as a guest). I have to believe he wants to offer his hearty congratulations to the commander-in-chief for stopping the murder of hundreds, if not thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Americans with the federal takedown of the Zazi al-Qaeda operation.

Why do El Rushbo, Sean Hannity, and their many chattering conservative colleagues decline to yet offer personal congratulations? Here we are -- September of the first term of a United States President and al-Qaeda is trying to kill a maximum number of Americans on the homeland. On the fateful 9/11s, one new president had a team that got the bad guys behind bars. The other sat in a Florida elementary school trying to remember that barely read August Presidential Daily Briefing that Condi had given him.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-alan-silverman/obama-team-stops-another_b_300417.html

[csziggy]

1. Sounds like they stopped several Oklahoma City events

I've lost track of how many plots were stopped but if each were about the same power blast as in OC, it would have been horrific.

[kentuck]

4. And whatever happened to those Somalia "pirates"??

I haven't heard much about them lately? Enemy activity seems to have almost dropped to zero since that head shot. And he did this without torturing people? It's amazing!!

[csziggy]

31. the right wing nuts probably think Obama was tipped off by his Muslin buddies

Or that the FBI was onto these people prior to 01/20/2009. I'm sure they will not give Obama any credit for changing the environment in investigations and sharing of information.

[TheWraith]

37. They probably realized that fucking with US shipping no longer paid off.

After all, there's now some natural selection pressure for them to stop doing that.

[bertman]

44. Either that or the corporate media moved on to some other news--such as our Nazi,

foreign-born muslin President's plan to turn the U.S. into a Socialist Welfare State run by ACORN.

[MadMaddie]

53. I just had that conversation with a friend I walk my dogs with

we like each other but politically we are night and day.

When she started on Acorn I said,

Me - "you do realize that Acorn was performing an audit and found the Micky Mouse voter registrations and turned the people in for fraud"?

She - "Well Acorn is evil and they should stop funding to them"!

Me - "You do realize that the hasty bill stops money from going to major contractors for said violations"?

She - "Good stop the money ging to any of them"

Me - "Just because there are a few jack asses doesn't mean a whole organization is corrupt? Acorn was helping low income folks try to get off the streets and into homes, that is not a bad goal"!

My partner looks at me and gives me the "I can't believe you are talking politics look"! Which pretty much ended the conversation.....

Oh well.....

[bertman]

54. Yes, the gulf is WIDE and DEEP. Only experience and empathy can change that. Unfortunately

experience can be slow coming and empathy might be equally hard to come by.

That's a great example of how far apart we are, Maddie. I wish I knew how to help the righties see the error of their ways.

[MadMaddie]

58. Bertman I think the only way they will understand is to

experience it first hand. I think there are many people that have let pretty pampered lives and never have wanted for anything.

My beloved grandmother who left us two Octobers ago had a saying, "Hard heads make soft butts"!! Even as an adult I think it still holds true....

[Lagomorph]

61. Read the news, they've been quite active...eom

[harkadog]

69. If you read international news media the attacks have continued.

The MSM here has just become bored with it.

[goclark]

46. Here is my question ~ I am so proud of the FBI

and pray that they will continue to be safe while doing their enormous job.

Question: Why is it that all of a sudden we are hearing about them doing their job and keeping us safe?

I can't remember any time during the Bush Administration when we were able to learn of their great deeds.

Is it because Cheney and Co. made them keep everything a secret?
:shrug:

[elleng]

62. FBI head probably had no sense about what he was expected/allowed to do.

With current administration, go do it and don't worry about who gets credit.

[csziggy]

75. Probably because Cheney wanted his buddies at the CIA to get the glory

Remember how they treated the FBI agents that tried to warn them about the 9/11 guys ahead of time? And they ignored how incompetent the CIA was. The FBI got results with interrogations without resorting to torture, but Cheney & Co. ignored that and sent in their torturers.

The FBI and the CIA are competitive even though they are supposed to work in different spheres. With Bush Sr. and Cheney being so prominent over the last 30 years, the FBI has gotten short shrift. I think President Obama is willing to treat both agencies well and really listen to their reports. The FBI is responding with better work or at least work that is getting recognition. The CIA will have to adjust to not having a direct link to the top of the food chain.

[Barack_America]

2. If this is the best that Al Qaeda has...

...I'm certainly not frightened anymore.

The guy didn't even know how to build a bomb. And calling out on the internet for help? Amateur hour, for sure.

[Schema Thing]

11. Not sure what you're thinking

but the guy knew how to build a bomb.

Are you conflating the three separate plots that have been busted in the past week?

[Barack_America]

17. In theory he did.

But not practically.

[spanone]

19. ...he couldn't make it work....he'd get an F in terrorism school

[madeline_con]

22. He's been around trying to buy h2o2 for a year?

Some terrorist.

[kentuck]

24. He was the weak link.

Did his incompetence lead to other arrests?

[madeline_con]

25. Hi dad and an imam were charged with lying.

Apparently, no other accomplices so far. These two were probably just not forthcoming with Zazi's whereabouts. :shrug:

Zazi's father, 53-year-old Mohammed Wali Zazi, also from suburban Denver, and Ahmad Wais Afzali, a 37-year-old Muslim cleric and funeral director from the New York borough of Queens, also have been charged with lying to federal agents in the case. Both have been released on bond.

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[FarCenter]

12. He seemed unable to concentrate hydrogen peroxide by fractional distillation

on a stove in a hotel room?

Not one of your intenational masterminds.

[Barack_America]

14. It's more the pleas for help over the internet...

A well-organized attack would have had this covered. Sounds like the sent this guy out to do this on his own. Very different from the level of organization we saw on 9/11.

[madeline_con]

23. He's a fall guy.

Why they set him up is what I don't get. Looose cannon, maybe?

[timeforpeace]

29. Ask Obama. If everone is right and he prevented this, he also set the guy up, right?That was the key

to "preventing" this.

[madeline_con]

30. If he was part of a group, he could have been used as a diversion

or he got too antsy, and they let him get caught. My question had nothing to do with Obama.

[niceypoo]

73. Perhaps he should have went for a diet Coke and Mentos bomb...

...instead

[TheWraith]

38. Well remember, Richard Reid was unable to figure out how to light a fuse.

That's what happens when you keep sending your best and brightest on suicide missions. You end up wading in the swampy end of the gene pool. By the standards of all the other "attacks" that have been prevented, this guy was a mastermind.

[greenbriar]

3. had this been bushy everyone would be all over the media

singing his praises

[kentuck]

5. Bingo !

That the point that needs to be made.

[iceman66]

8. +1000

[Barack_America]

6. The Bush WH would have been pushing this on the media.

However, the Obama WH doesn't appear to want the American people to think that there is the constant threat of attack.

One administration wanted us to live in fear, the other doesn't.

[kentuck]

9. Very true.

But this should make people feel safer. Not more fearful.

[wroberts189]

13. Not to mention the fact that Obama is starting to forge a lasting peace in the world.

Now he has Russia AND China pressuring Iran.


Obama may have just saved the world. From nuclear holocaust at least.

[Wizard777]

16. Wrong! Bush would have let them hit their targets. Like he did with 9/11.

Then he would be on TV telling everyone we have to make him King for life OR TERRORIST WILL KILL US ALL!

[Subdivisions]

18. +++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t

[leftstreet]

21. And he'd be on TV telling us to go shopping!

+1

[elocs]

7. No matter, trumpet it like he did. The freepers would certainly do it under Bush. n/t

[Uben]

10. Obama:The president that did stop another 9/11

They cant have headlines like that in the media. It's...it's......almost blasphemy to the piece of shit republicans like Rush "coward pussy" Limbaugh and Glenn "I want my mommy" Beck!

[mike_c]

15. I don't believe it yet....

Sorry, I just don't. I think it's yet another slim-to-nothing terror case that will ruin some lives for no good reason.

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. I'd like to know when these investigations began...

and whether or not the FBI agents guided the suspects toward actions they would never have taken upon themselves.

[alarimer]

45. Exactly. Then let the media know so you look like a big bad terrorist fighter.

Sorry, I've seen this movie before. It was boring then, it's boring now.

[Loki]

20. Obviously this President is paying

attention to his Presidential Daily Briefings.

[LWolf]

26. No, but it sounds like some federal agency probably did. nt

[timeforpeace]

28. No, it was Obama. He was able to fit it in between late night TV appearances.

[LWolf]

33. Hi really IS Jesus!

:wow:

[B3Nut]

27. Had he been President in 2001 there would have been no 9/11

I'm convinced of it. Hell, I have a sneaking suspicion that had the rightful man (Al Gore) been President in 2001 it would not have gone down. He's an awful lot smarter and more perceptive than Incurious Georgie McFailpants ever thought of being.

[jgraz]

34. Somewhere, in an undisclosed location, Dick Cheney is weeping.

[Juche]

35. Because on some level they want a terror attack

A few months ago Glenn Beck and Michael Scheuer were lamenting how it'd take a terror attack to 'save' the country from liberalism. And Cheney obviously wants another attack so he can say 'I told you so'.

So no, they aren't going to applaud or support this. This proves that intelligence, military and law enforcement agencies can still keep us safe under a democratic administration. They don't want that to be the case. Besides, it wasn't Obama who stopped the attack, it was our law enforcement and intel infrastructure. But that wouldn't matter to much of the public.

I really don't care who stops these attacks, as long as someone does.

[Baikonour]

36. I don't know. The whole story is weird to me.

Here's a guy that has lived in America for quite some time, has praised it and even had a "God Bless America" sticker on his doughnut cart, that he operated out of Queens.

But then he goes to Colorado for credit counseling (was on the verge of bankruptcy) and to buy hair supplies...to build a bomb?

Just an odd story all around. We'll see how it pans out.

[TheWraith]

39. I think "another 9/11" is a bit of an overstatement...

We don't know whether this guy would have been able to pull anything off, or on what scale. But it's a good example of a case of nipping this shit in the bud, rather than, say, ignoring the FBI tip-offs until something blows up.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

40. The intelligence and LE agencies have been doing a great job since 2001.

[newtothegame]

41. I'm not sure exactly what you're saying Obama did here? I didn't see him slap on any handcuffs. n/t

[kentuck]

42. He ordered handcuffs instead of torture.

That is all he did. And one of the threats is behind bars. That is all that we know. Of course, Bush and Cheney would never try to make political hay out of it if they were in charge.

[thelordofhell]

43. Obama has kept us safe longer than the past 2 Presidents

Fact

[KoKo]

51. Safer than the "last two Presidents?" You mean Bush's stolen election #1 and 2.?

Or do you mean Clinton and then Bush?

[ShadowLiberal]

74. When did Clinton not keep us safe? Foreign terrorists never attacked us under his watch

Sure we had domestic terrorism when the right wing was feeding the environment that helped cause it, but there was no 9/11 that killed thousands on American soil under Clinton.

[Trekologer]

47. Cheney would probablly claim credit for it

The Bush/Cheney logic:

The Bush administration fails to stop a terrorist plot 8 months after taking office: previous administration's fault. The Bush administration wasn't in office long enough.

The Obama administration stops a terrorist plot 8 month after taking office: previous administration's success. The Obama administration wasn't in office long enough.

[bigwillq]

48. Probably.

Maybe. We may never know.

But, anyway, it's their job to protect us. Anything less should not be accepted.

[bertman]

49. Nah, he didn't. But it appears that our security guys did manage to ferret out some wannabee

terrorists who weren't very smart or well trained. That's pretty darn good though. I'd rather see them doing that than eating donuts and waiting for the bombs to go off before they start investigating.

We're still using our American Corporate terror apparatus in many parts of the world, so don't expect the Hate-America crowd to turn into Obama fans and go away any time soon. There are lots of folks who have good reason to want to do us harm. Sad to say.

[KoKo]

50. NO! They have not done proper investigation of "9/11" so how would Iran figure into

this? Sounds like RW spew coming from AIPAQ...IMHO.

[gauguin57]

52. Keeping Us Safe Since January, 2009!

Woo hoo!

[Deja Q]

55. Rush Fartbag is on record wanting this country to rot.

And yet some shitheads think he's worth money.


Oh dear, did I swear? Good. Rush is NOT anything even remotely representative of what our country has to offer.

[Kievan Rus]

56. Yes he did. This should quiet national-security types that said Obama couldn't protect America

[uberblonde]

57. You should calm down and read this.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/9/26/212536/543

This has more to do with renewing the Patriot Act, looks like. Don't believe everything you hear.

[Poll_Blind]

59. Thanks for posting that. Good points, all. n/t

PB

[Poll_Blind]

60. I'm not sold yet that this is all it's being cracked up to be. n/t

PB

[FarLeftFist]

63. They WONT give the President any credit, but give Bush credit for catching Saddam.

[Beacool]

64. I think that the credit should go to the FBI.

They do their job regardless of who's president.

;-)

[BlooInBloo]

65. hahahahaaa!!!!

[johnaries]

66. Didn't "someone" say that Obama would be "tested" and get

criticized for it? Sounds to me like Obama passed the test with flying colors!

[kentuck]

67. Who said the test was over??

???

[impik]

68. It's good to have a president who can actually

read.

[earth mom]

70. C'mon now-get real. 911 was nothing but a LIHOP or MIHOP event via * & Cheney.

This OPINION PIECE is nothing but a puff piece to make Obama look good.

I thought Terra Terra Terra was OVER when * & Cheney left.

Guess Obama loyalists think it's good to stir up the Terra b.s. all over again.

Gotta do something to keep the masses quiet so they will stop bitching about health care. :eyes:

[santamargarita]

71. Goddamn Bush would let it happen to push his fascist agenda

:puke:

[TankLV]

72. Yes - just like Clinton and other DEMOCRATIC Presidents have done.

REPUKES have CONSTANTLY proven themselves INCOMPETANT at governing.

Period.