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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:32 PM
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Glenn Beck attracts a crowd to Seattle talk
I missed the 'r' in attracts when I first read the headline. :rofl:



Glenn Beck attracts a crowd to Seattle talk

Saturday, September 26, 2009


(09-26) 18:28 PDT Seattle (AP) --

Glenn Beck warmed up for his touted return to his Washington hometown with an appearance Saturday at Seattle's Safeco Field that drew crowds of loyal fans but also some protesters.

The Fox News commentator took the stage and joked about the controversy his planned visit to Mount Vernon, Wash., for "Glenn Beck Day" has prompted.

Beck will receive the keys to the city from Mayor Bud Norris.

That event has been criticized by some who claim Beck is too polarizing a figure. The City Council passed a resolution saying "Mount Vernon City Council is in no way sponsoring the mayor's event on Sept. 26, 2009, and is not connected to the Glenn Beck event in any manner."

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"He's not a racist," Craig Hartmann of Redmond, Wash. said after Beck's talk. "The race card being played by the left side of the aisle is wrong."

Outside, meanwhile, a few dozen people protested, expressing their displeasure with Beck for calling Obama a racist who hates white people.

One protester, Don Sly of Seattle, held a tongue-in-cheek welcome sign that said: "Sure he's an idiot bigot, but he's our idiot bigot."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/09/24/national/a104745D86.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0SGo5fuFK


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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:36 PM
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1. The more controversial he gets,the more publicity he receives,and
that leads more people to want to hear what he has to say,out of curiosity if nothing else.

He should be totally ignored.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:42 PM
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2. Ignore him at your own peril. 7,000 showed up to hear his rants.

The ultra-right is taking it to the streets. And the response is??
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:46 PM
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4. Exactly - they've taken to killing us now
Ignore at your peril indeed
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:48 PM
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5. 7000 morans in our ultra-liberal city. Ack.
These folks usually have the good sense to hide their political leanings around here.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:28 AM
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18. And a lot of them probably traveled from far away
Like lemmings following their phony leader off a cliff.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:54 PM
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8. 7000 in a metropolitan area of about 3 1/2 million isn't that many.
A drop in the bucket.

I will continue ignoring him.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:13 PM
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11. And how many people have progressives/liberals brought into the streets on any issue in Seattle?

Mass movements are organized in the streets and the far right for the first time since the 1930's is making moves in that direction.

They are testing the waters.

You can ignore them but the people won't.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:01 AM
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15. Were you here for the demonstrations for gay marriage? They were huge!
Seattle regularly has large demonstrations in favor of liberal causes.

Tucker
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:17 PM
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20. And on the issues that impact working class people, gay or straight, white or people of color, ....
men and women, young and old.

Like war, health care, unemployment, foreclosures, Wall street bailouts and other economic and living standards issues?

Where are the protestors and demonstrators? Where are the mass movements? Who is trying to organize such movements in the Democratic Party to counter the reactionary mass actions being organized by significant segments of the Republican party?
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:12 AM
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17. Yet only a few dozen protestors....
In Seattle. Like, WTO Seattle.

Where did everybody go?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:06 PM
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10. Precisely. I've suggested that DU create it's own Glenn Beck forum for his fans here.
I get so sick of seeing the name. The left is more responsible for Beck's fame than the right.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:16 PM
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12. Exactly! eom
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:56 PM
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22. So if you ignore Beck and the ultra right they will just fade away! What nonsense!
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 05:57 PM by Better Believe It
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:51 PM
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21. Beck won't be ignored. So we should fight against the far right with silence, inaction and .....
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 05:55 PM by Better Believe It
passivity?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:43 PM
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3. A little more time
and a little more rope, and Beck will "hang" himself publicly, eventually.

He's considerably more sociopathic than Limbaugh (as if THAT were possible).





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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:02 PM
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9. Don't count on it
we have underestimated to many talk show hosts already.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:50 PM
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6. He needs to be pied.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:51 PM
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7. pied au cul
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 09:58 PM by Gabi Hayes
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:19 PM
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13. This event was organized by Evergreen Freedom Foundation
aka Republican political operatives and insiders. Beck likes to distance himself from the Republican party but that's all this is.

It was a beautiful day in Seattle. No reason to protest a non-event.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:00 PM
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14. Woman on the news said he is "kind." Part 2 here shows his sadistic viciousness
Whacked BecKKK's whacked hero:
One Willard Cleon Skousen, who worked/retired from the FBI and went on to be investigated by Miss HOOVER's FBI to the tune of 2,000 pages. I've always thought it was brilliant of LIMBOsevic that his main thrust in attempting to make Conservativism respectable when he first started was to ---purposefully, deliberately--- distance himself from the kooks, the BIRCHERs, the Trilateralists, etc. He would cut off all callers who started ranting on these topics. The same way he still cuts off those true followers who slip and let loose their true racist selves---------------INSTEAD of "disguising" themselves.


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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/index.html

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck's life


Cleon Skousen was a right-wing crank whom even conservatives despised. Then Beck discovered him

By Alexander Zaitchik



.... But more interesting than the contents of "The 5,000 Year Leap," and more revealing for what it says about 912ers and the Glenn Beck Nation, is the book's author. W. Cleon Skousen was not a historian so much as a player in the history of the American far right; less a scholar of the republic than a threat to it. At least, that was the judgment of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI, which maintained a file on Skousen for years that eventually totaled some 2,000 pages. Before he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen's own Mormon church publicly distanced itself from the foundation that Skousen founded and that has published previous editions of "The 5,000 Year Leap."

As Beck knows, to focus solely on "The 5,000 Year Leap" is to sell the author short. When he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen had authored more than a dozen books and pamphlets on the Red Menace, New World Order conspiracy, Christian child rearing, and Mormon end-times prophecy. It is a body of work that does much to explain Glenn Beck's bizarre conspiratorial mash-up of recent months, which decries a new darkness at noon and finds strange symbols carefully coded in the retired lobby art of Rockefeller Center. It also suggests that the modern base of the Republican Party is headed to a very strange place. ....

...The city's ultraconservative mayor, J. Bracken Lee, fired him in 1960 for excessive zeal in raiding private clubs where the Mormon elite enjoyed their cards. "Skousen conducted his office as Chief of Police in exactly the same manner in which the Communists operate their government," Lee wrote to a friend explaining his firing of Skousen. The man is a master of half-truths. In at least three instances I have proven him to be a liar. He is a very dangerous man (and) one of the greatest spenders of public funds of anyone who ever served in any capacity in Salt Lake City government." ....

...Skousen laid low for much of the '60s. But he reemerged at the end of the decade peddling a new and improved conspiracy that merged left with right: the global capitalist mega-plot of the "dynastic rich." Families like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, Skousen now believed, used left forces -- from Ho Chi Minh to the American civil rights movement -- to serve their own power. ....

"Skousen's personal position," wrote a dismayed Quigley, "seems to me perilously close to the 'exclusive uniformity' which I see in Nazism and in the Radical Right in this country. In fact, his position has echoes of the original Nazi 25-point plan." ....

Skousen may have been too extreme for the Quorum of the Twelve in Salt Lake City, but he soon found rehabilitation on the intellectual margins of Reagan's Washington. In 1980, Skousen was appointed to the newly founded Council for National Policy, a think tank that brought together leading religious conservatives and served as the unofficial brain trust of the new administration. At the Council, Skousen distinguished himself by becoming an early proponent of privatizing Social Security. He also formed relationships with other evangelical church leaders and aligned the LDS church with an increasingly religious GOP. ....

..."The Making of America." Besides bursting with factual errors, Skousen's book characterized African-American children as "pickaninnies" and described American slave owners as the "worst victims" of the slavery system. ....

"The 5,000 Year Leap" is not the only Skousen title to find new life on the 912 circuit. The president of the National Center for Constitutional Studies, Dr. Earl Taylor Jr., is currently touring the country offering daylong seminars to 912 chapters based on Skousen's "Making of America." For $25, participants will receive a bagged lunch and stories about America's religious Founders and their happy slaves. An ad for Taylor's "Making of America" seminar, currently featured on the Web site of the Tampa 912 Project, claims that Skousen's book is "considered a great masterpiece to Constitutional students (and is) the 'granddaddy' of all books on the United States Constitution."

Like so much declaimed by W. Cleon Skousen and his 21st century acolyte Glenn Beck, this last statement is fantasy. But it is also a profitable and popular one. In coming to terms with a movement that has an ever more tenuous relationship with accepted fact, we relearn that perennial lesson grasped even by J. Edgar Hoover's FBI. Fantasies can have serious consequences.

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3 PART ARTICLE:
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/21/glenn_beck/

The making of Glenn Beck


His roots, from the alleged suicide of his mom to Top 40 radio to the birth of the morning zoo. Part 1 of 3



http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/22/glenn_beck_two/index.html

Glenn Beck becomes damaged goods


The radio phenom takes over the morning zoo, makes fun of miscarriages and flames out. Part 2 of 3

.... Beck's real broadcasting innovation during his stay in Kentucky came in the realm of vicious personal assaults on fellow radio hosts. A frequent target of Beck's in Louisville was Liz Curtis, obese host of an afternoon advice show ... Curtis, whom Beck had never met and with whom he did not compete for ratings, was overweight. And Beck never let anyone forget it. ....

...He told Beck to lay off Curtis, suggesting he instead attack a morning DJ like himself, who could return fire. "Beck told me, 'Sorry, all's fair in love and war,'" remembers Meiners. "He continued with the fat jokes, which were exceedingly cruel, pointless, and aimed at one of the nicest people in radio. Glenn Beck was over-the-top childish from Day One, a punk who tried to make a name for himself by being disruptive and vengeful." ....
Louisville is where Beck began experimenting with another streak that would become more pronounced in later years: militaristic patriotism and calls for the bombing of Muslims.

The birth of Glenn Beck as Radio Super Patriot can be traced to the morning of April 15, 1986. This was the morning after Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. warplanes to bomb Moammar Gadhafi's Tripoli palace in response to the bombing of a Berlin nightclub frequented by U.S. servicemen. Beck sounded stoned during the show -- and given his later claim to have smoked pot every day for 15 years, might have been -- ....

"A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce (Kelly) apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby." ....

"It was low class," says Miller, now president of Open Stream Broadcasting. "There are certain places you just don't go."

"Beck turned Y95 into a guerrilla station," says Kelly. "It was an example of the zoo thing getting out of control. It became just about pissing people off, part of the culture shift that gave us 'Jackass.'" Among those who were appalled by Beck's prank call was Beck's own wife, Claire, who had been friends with Kelly's wife since the two worked together at WPGC.

The stunt was a textbook case of media marketing 101: Attention is good; controversy is better. Outrage is the gift that keeps on giving. ....


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/23/glenn_beck_three/

Glenn Beck rises again


Getting clean, getting Mormon, getting talk radio -- and going to Yale, with the help of Joe Lieberman. Part 3 of 3

.... Beck didn't just fire people in fits of rage -- he fired them slowly and publicly. "He used to take people to a bar and sit them down and just humiliate them in public. He was a sadist, the kind of guy who rips wings off of flies," remembers a colleague. ....

One local politician who appreciated Beck's regular digs at the governor was the man who had defeated Weicker in a bitterly contested 1988 senate race: Democrat Joe Lieberman. Beck and the senator were friendly throughout the '90s, until they fell out over Lieberman's refusal to back the impeachment of Bill Clinton in 1998. But before they parted ways, Lieberman would play a role in Beck's search for a worldview and identity by helping Beck enroll part-time at Yale in the fall of 1996. The ADHD-diagnosed Beck didn't last long at Yale. He took one class, "Early Christology," and dropped out. ....

"The guy had dozens of enemies. People thought he was an annoying, washed-up has-been. When I see people today bragging that they knew him back then, I'm like, 'But you fucking hated him!' "

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:10 AM
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16. Musical Interlude
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 12:17 AM by Jack Rabbit
Please click here
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downeyr Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:29 AM
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19. I Can't Believe He's From Seattle...
what an insult to my hometown!
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