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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:32 AM
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BBC video shows afghan police giving weapons to talibans in a very friendly climate
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:35 AM by demoleft
here it is, from an italian newspaper. i could not find on the BBC.
http://video.corriere.it/?vxChannel=Dal%20Mondo&vxClipId=2524_470f88c0-aab7-11de-a0d4-00144f02aabc

Kabul states the video is just partial, and that a gunfire exchange followed. (does it make sense? maybe. afghanistan is surreal).
the government states also that two policemen were recognized and suspended. (suspended? should they not be trialled for betrayal?!)

but indeed, the images are very clear.
why should our soldiers go on dying in such a muddy pond, i do not know. the corruption of the police and part of the institutions wipes any sense off the military mission and makes our soldiers an easy target.

it's crazy really.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:15 AM
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1. Recent article on Afghan army and police
Meet the Afghan Army
Is It a Figment of Washington's Imagination?

By Ann Jones

SNIP

As for the police, U.S.-funded training offers a similar revolving door. In Afghanistan, however, it is far more dangerous to be a policeman than a soldier. While soldiers on patrol can slip away, policemen stuck at their posts are killed almost every day. Assigned in small numbers to staff small-town police stations or highway checkpoints, they are sitting ducks for Taliban fighters. As representatives of the now thoroughly discredited government of President Hamid Karzai, the hapless police make handy symbolic targets. British commanders in Helmand province estimated that 60% of Afghan police are on drugs -- and little wonder why.

In the Pashtun provinces of southern Afghanistan, where the Taliban is strong, recruiting men for the Afghan National Police is a "problem," as an ANP commander told me. Consequently, non-Pashtun police trainees of Hazara, Tajik, Uzbek, or other ethnic backgrounds are dispatched to maintain order in Pashtun territory. They might as well paint targets on their foreheads. The police who accompanied the U.S. Marines into Helmand Province reportedly refused to leave their heavily armed mentors to take up suicidal posts in provincial villages. Some police and army soldiers, when asked by reporters, claimed to be "visiting" Helmand province only for "vacation."

Training Day

In many districts, the police recently supplemented their low pay and demonstrated allegiance to local warlords by stuffing ballot boxes for President Karzai in the presidential election. Consider that but one more indication -- like the defection of those great Islamist fundamentalist mujahidin allies the U.S. sponsored in the anti-Soviet jihad of the 1980s who are now fighting with the Taliban -- that no amount of American training, mentoring, or cash will determine who or what Afghans will fight for, if indeed they fight at all.

Afghans are world famous fighters, in part because they have a knack for gravitating to the winning side, and they're ready to change sides with alacrity until they get it right. Recognizing that Afghans back a winner, U.S. military strategists are now banking on a counterinsurgency strategy that seeks to "clear, hold, and build" -- that is, to stick around long enough to win the Afghans over. But it's way too late for that to work. These days, U.S. troops sticking around look ever more like a foreign occupying army and, to the Taliban, like targets.

Recently Karen DeYoung noted in the Washington Post that the Taliban now regularly use very sophisticated military techniques -- "as if the insurgents had attended something akin to the U.S. Army's Ranger school, which teaches soldiers how to fight in small groups in austere environments." Of course, some of them have attended training sessions which teach them to fight in "austere environments," probably time and time again. If you were a Talib, wouldn't you scout the training being offered to Afghans on the other side? And wouldn't you do it more than once if you could get well paid every time?

http://tomdispatch.com/post/175116/ann_jones_us_or_them_in_afghanistan_
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