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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 11:46 AM
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Who is supplying the weapons to the Taliban?
http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/american-weapons-in-the-hands-of-the-taliban/article156347.html

American Weapons in the Hands of the Taliban

A platoon of U.S. soldiers crouched in the darkness of Afghanistan one night last April, awaiting a group of approaching Taliban fighters. The men of Second Platoon, Company B, had spent nine months fighting in the area, near the Pakistan border, and 11 of their members had been injured or killed. This time, Company B was primed for revenge. When the Taliban came close enough, the Americans hit them with automatic-weapons fire and grenades, mowing down at least a dozen enemy fighters. It was a decisive victory. But afterward, the troops made a startling discovery.

A check of 30 magazines taken from the dead insurgents' rifles found that at least 17 held ammunition that bore the distinctive factory stamps of U.S. suppliers in California and the Czech Republic. The discovery—first made by a New York Times reporter who examined the ammunition at the scene, and later confirmed by the Pentagon—hints at a long-feared situation: that American-supplied arms are winding up with those trying to kill our troops.

It wasn't the first such incident. In July 2008, Taliban fighters attacked a U.S. outpost in the Afghan village of Wanat, killing nine American troops and wounding 27. Military investigators later discovered a local police chief had helped carry out the attack. At his police post, they found a cache of more than 70 assault rifles that were probably U.S.-supplied. The investigators picked up three more guns near the battle site itself.

But here's the most disturbing part: Pentagon officials say there's no way to know how the Taliban is getting these weapons. They could be stolen or taken from dead government troops. They could even have been sold by our allies. (Private DynCorp contractors working for the United States have reported "multiple instances" of Afghan National Police personnel allegedly selling weapons to anti-American forces.) We just don't know, because we've lost track of tens of thousands of weapons and ammunition in Afghanistan.

That's right. In January, the Government Accountability Office found that the U.S. military was not adequately tracking weapons supplied to Afghanistan's government security forces and in fact could not account for at least 87,000 of them, including machine guns and grenade launchers. Nor did the military keep reliable records for another 135,000 weapons supplied by NATO and other allies.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 11:58 AM
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1. Sad smile
The U.S. is the biggest arms supplier in the world. This isn't even blowback, this is just business.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:09 PM
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2. No wonder there is a shortage here. These companies need to be exposed.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:15 PM
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3. It's not them doing the selling, directly.
Those small arms and ammunition may have gone through a dozen different hands before ending up in Afghanistan.

Look to the mercenary corporations like Xe (Blackwater) who were bringing in weapons illegally to those countries. They would sell to our enemies just to ramp up the violence in order to justify their being employed.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:20 PM
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4. wrong place.
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 12:20 PM by Democracyinkind
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:32 PM
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6. I think the most likely source is the forces we train and equip.
We supply them with weapons and ammo. A lot of these people go back over to the Taliban or sell them weapons and ammo. Some of the ammo gets captured too. It should not be too surprising to find US and friendly nation ammo in hostile hands.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:20 PM
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7. Spot on. Also, it's the training we provide that has made them so "effective" in the last years.

And that's not the racist standpoint that says that they had to learn to fight from us, they are very capable fighters in general. But they get a clear insight into American modes of operations and standard tactics. When they go home after ten weeks of training they will have a pretty good idea about how US ground troops will approach them.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:20 PM
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5. Far West, Ltd. n/t
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:42 PM
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9. oh I see..
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:46 PM
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10. you do indeed. n/t
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:41 PM
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8. It seems to me the greater question is who is providing the money to buy them
I know the drug trade is large but its hard to believe its large enough to support a part-time army so as to sustain a years-long war against tens of thousands of the best armed troops in the world - ours.

So, where does the kind of money it takes to fight a war come from, who is paying it out and what is its source? I'm not so much interested in where the stuff was made. If it wasn't made here it would be made somewhere else; abhorent though the munitions trade is that doesn't answer the first question, who are the customers for it - where does the money trail lead?
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 02:55 PM
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11. ....

1. " Poppy "

2. Charities

3. Saudi+Pakistani quasi-governmental sources

4. local crimes
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