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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:27 PM
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Glen Beck's mom died in an accident, not suicide? Personally,
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:29 PM by babylonsister
I could care less, but he's been using him mom's death as a talking point to garner sympathy? How fucked up is that???

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909270015

McClatchy, Salon raise questions about apparent discrepancies in Beck's account of mother's death

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Early one morning in May 1979, a 41-year-old divorcee named Mary Beck went boating in Washington's Puget Sound. Her companions on the expedition were a retired papermaker named Orean Carrol, whose boat she helped launch near the Tacoma suburb of Puyallup, and Carrol's pet dog. Exactly what happened next remains shrouded in morning mist, but among the crew, only the dog would survive the day. The boat was recovered late that afternoon adrift near Vashon Island, just north of Tacoma. It was empty but for two wallets and the frightened animal. Mary Beck's body was discovered floating fully clothed nearby. Carrol's corpse washed ashore at the Vashon ferry terminal the following morning.

The county coroner found no evidence of violence on either body. Police investigators told Tacoma's News Tribune that the double drowning appeared to be a classic man-overboard mishap -- a failed rescue attempt in which both parties perished.

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Over the course of many retellings, the tragedy of Mary Beck would become the cornerstone event in her son's personal narrative of redemption, and that tale of rebirth would became the cornerstone of his career. But the story Glenn Beck often tells about his mother is not quite the one recorded by the Tacoma paper. As Beck would later relate to millions of his listeners, his mother's drowning was no boating accident. It was a suicide, he claimed, explained in a short note written on that fateful dawn and left on the mantel. And he said it happened in 1977, when he was 13, not 1979, when he was 15 (even though newspaper obits and government records confirm that a 41-year-old woman named Mary Beck died in Puyallup in 1979.) In fact, Beck's first wife had never heard of Mary Beck's alleged suicide until years after they married, when she heard her husband discussing it live on the radio.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:32 PM
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1. The entire article in Salon is fascinating
He is a raving lunatic with a screwed up history. His mom's death is just one piece of his insanity.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:40 PM
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2. OK, so where he is now, he is redeemed?
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:41 PM by Turbineguy
Gee, maybe he could have been the next Charlie Manson.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:44 PM
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3. Is it possible the suicide note was never revealed to authorities?
It's certainly possible his mother did commit suicide by jumping from the boat and the man died trying to rescue her.

Beck is charlatan laughing all the way to the bank. This is fascinating story and I wonder why he changes the date. He's certainly using his mother's tragic death as part of his narrative and schtick. I'm not ready to try making much out of this discrepancy or to say his mother didn't commit suicide. After all Beck was the one living with her at the time and has a better knowledge of her behaviour at the time.

Still a fascinating story.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:49 PM
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4. I find it interesting he never told his first wife about his theory.
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 05:02 PM by babylonsister
It must have 'evolved'. :eyes:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:54 PM
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5. Hey, if you produced Glenn Beck, wouldn't you commit suicide?
That's the one point I actually believe him on. :evilgrin:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:59 PM
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6. Weird. Why would someone prefer a 'suicide' story for a parent's death?
It's not exactly a pleasant scenario for losing a mother or father.

But it IS one that would garner more sympathy.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:03 PM
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7. A Republicon liar? How typical
Wake me up when someone finds a Republicon who actually tells the truth.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:08 PM
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8. That seems pretty
despicable to manipulate the death of one's own mother for whatever twisted or irrational ends Blech uses it for. I would he lie about something like that. Maybe he simply could never come to terms at what occurred and for some reason thought suicide sounded better. Maybe this is a better explanation for his pretty obvious mental and emotional instability. :shrug:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:11 PM
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9. "Beck's first wife"
His *FIRST* wife????

:wtf:

Why are these motherfuckers with multiple marriages so concerned about OTHER peoples' marriages? Fix your own, fuckknob.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:31 PM
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10. His brother committed suicide.
His family is a Grand Canyon of fucked-upness.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:40 PM
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11. Part II of the Salon piece shows what a VICIOUS SADIST he is
Whacked BecKKK's whacked hero:
One Willard Cleon Skousen, who worked/retired from the FBI and went on to be investigated by Miss HOOVER's FBI to the tune of 2,000 pages. I've always thought it was brilliant of LIMBOsevic that his main thrust in attempting to make Conservativism respectable when he first started was to ---purposefully, deliberately--- distance himself from the kooks, the BIRCHERs, the Trilateralists, etc. He would cut off all callers who started ranting on these topics. The same way he still cuts off those true followers who slip and let loose their true racist selves---------------INSTEAD of "disguising" themselves.


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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/index.html

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck's life


Cleon Skousen was a right-wing crank whom even conservatives despised. Then Beck discovered him

By Alexander Zaitchik



.... But more interesting than the contents of "The 5,000 Year Leap," and more revealing for what it says about 912ers and the Glenn Beck Nation, is the book's author. W. Cleon Skousen was not a historian so much as a player in the history of the American far right; less a scholar of the republic than a threat to it. At least, that was the judgment of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI, which maintained a file on Skousen for years that eventually totaled some 2,000 pages. Before he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen's own Mormon church publicly distanced itself from the foundation that Skousen founded and that has published previous editions of "The 5,000 Year Leap."

As Beck knows, to focus solely on "The 5,000 Year Leap" is to sell the author short. When he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen had authored more than a dozen books and pamphlets on the Red Menace, New World Order conspiracy, Christian child rearing, and Mormon end-times prophecy. It is a body of work that does much to explain Glenn Beck's bizarre conspiratorial mash-up of recent months, which decries a new darkness at noon and finds strange symbols carefully coded in the retired lobby art of Rockefeller Center. It also suggests that the modern base of the Republican Party is headed to a very strange place. ....

...The city's ultraconservative mayor, J. Bracken Lee, fired him in 1960 for excessive zeal in raiding private clubs where the Mormon elite enjoyed their cards. "Skousen conducted his office as Chief of Police in exactly the same manner in which the Communists operate their government," Lee wrote to a friend explaining his firing of Skousen. The man is a master of half-truths. In at least three instances I have proven him to be a liar. He is a very dangerous man (and) one of the greatest spenders of public funds of anyone who ever served in any capacity in Salt Lake City government." ....

...Skousen laid low for much of the '60s. But he reemerged at the end of the decade peddling a new and improved conspiracy that merged left with right: the global capitalist mega-plot of the "dynastic rich." Families like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, Skousen now believed, used left forces -- from Ho Chi Minh to the American civil rights movement -- to serve their own power. ....

"Skousen's personal position," wrote a dismayed Quigley, "seems to me perilously close to the 'exclusive uniformity' which I see in Nazism and in the Radical Right in this country. In fact, his position has echoes of the original Nazi 25-point plan." ....

Skousen may have been too extreme for the Quorum of the Twelve in Salt Lake City, but he soon found rehabilitation on the intellectual margins of Reagan's Washington. In 1980, Skousen was appointed to the newly founded Council for National Policy, a think tank that brought together leading religious conservatives and served as the unofficial brain trust of the new administration. At the Council, Skousen distinguished himself by becoming an early proponent of privatizing Social Security. He also formed relationships with other evangelical church leaders and aligned the LDS church with an increasingly religious GOP. ....

..."The Making of America." Besides bursting with factual errors, Skousen's book characterized African-American children as "pickaninnies" and described American slave owners as the "worst victims" of the slavery system. ....

"The 5,000 Year Leap" is not the only Skousen title to find new life on the 912 circuit. The president of the National Center for Constitutional Studies, Dr. Earl Taylor Jr., is currently touring the country offering daylong seminars to 912 chapters based on Skousen's "Making of America." For $25, participants will receive a bagged lunch and stories about America's religious Founders and their happy slaves. An ad for Taylor's "Making of America" seminar, currently featured on the Web site of the Tampa 912 Project, claims that Skousen's book is "considered a great masterpiece to Constitutional students (and is) the 'granddaddy' of all books on the United States Constitution."

Like so much declaimed by W. Cleon Skousen and his 21st century acolyte Glenn Beck, this last statement is fantasy. But it is also a profitable and popular one. In coming to terms with a movement that has an ever more tenuous relationship with accepted fact, we relearn that perennial lesson grasped even by J. Edgar Hoover's FBI. Fantasies can have serious consequences.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/21/glenn_beck/

The making of Glenn Beck


His roots, from the alleged suicide of his mom to Top 40 radio to the birth of the morning zoo. Part 1 of 3



http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/22/glenn_beck_two/index.html

Glenn Beck becomes damaged goods


The radio phenom takes over the morning zoo, makes fun of miscarriages and flames out. Part 2 of 3

.... Beck's real broadcasting innovation during his stay in Kentucky came in the realm of vicious personal assaults on fellow radio hosts. A frequent target of Beck's in Louisville was Liz Curtis, obese host of an afternoon advice show ... Curtis, whom Beck had never met and with whom he did not compete for ratings, was overweight. And Beck never let anyone forget it. ....

...He told Beck to lay off Curtis, suggesting he instead attack a morning DJ like himself, who could return fire. "Beck told me, 'Sorry, all's fair in love and war,'" remembers Meiners. "He continued with the fat jokes, which were exceedingly cruel, pointless, and aimed at one of the nicest people in radio. Glenn Beck was over-the-top childish from Day One, a punk who tried to make a name for himself by being disruptive and vengeful." ....
Louisville is where Beck began experimenting with another streak that would become more pronounced in later years: militaristic patriotism and calls for the bombing of Muslims.

The birth of Glenn Beck as Radio Super Patriot can be traced to the morning of April 15, 1986. This was the morning after Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. warplanes to bomb Moammar Gadhafi's Tripoli palace in response to the bombing of a Berlin nightclub frequented by U.S. servicemen. Beck sounded stoned during the show -- and given his later claim to have smoked pot every day for 15 years, might have been -- ....

"A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce (Kelly) apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby." ....

"It was low class," says Miller, now president of Open Stream Broadcasting. "There are certain places you just don't go."

"Beck turned Y95 into a guerrilla station," says Kelly. "It was an example of the zoo thing getting out of control. It became just about pissing people off, part of the culture shift that gave us 'Jackass.'" Among those who were appalled by Beck's prank call was Beck's own wife, Claire, who had been friends with Kelly's wife since the two worked together at WPGC.

The stunt was a textbook case of media marketing 101: Attention is good; controversy is better. Outrage is the gift that keeps on giving. ....


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/23/glenn_beck_three/

Glenn Beck rises again


Getting clean, getting Mormon, getting talk radio -- and going to Yale, with the help of Joe Lieberman. Part 3 of 3

.... Beck didn't just fire people in fits of rage -- he fired them slowly and publicly. "He used to take people to a bar and sit them down and just humiliate them in public. He was a sadist, the kind of guy who rips wings off of flies," remembers a colleague. ....

One local politician who appreciated Beck's regular digs at the governor was the man who had defeated Weicker in a bitterly contested 1988 senate race: Democrat Joe Lieberman. Beck and the senator were friendly throughout the '90s, until they fell out over Lieberman's refusal to back the impeachment of Bill Clinton in 1998. But before they parted ways, Lieberman would play a role in Beck's search for a worldview and identity by helping Beck enroll part-time at Yale in the fall of 1996. The ADHD-diagnosed Beck didn't last long at Yale. He took one class, "Early Christology," and dropped out. ....

"The guy had dozens of enemies. People thought he was an annoying, washed-up has-been. When I see people today bragging that they knew him back then, I'm like, 'But you fucking hated him!' "

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