Testimony from the girl (Polanski's victim), unedited

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskib10.html

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :mad:

[Inspired]

1. And she was 13? This makes me sick to my stomach. n/t

[proteus_lives]

2. Sickening.

How could anyone not want Polanski in jail?

[seabeyond]

5. those that excuse raping a 13 yr old. nt

[ovidsen]

36. A waste of time and money.

Polanski is a solid gold pervert, no doubt about it. His cinema skills, or any other commendable things he's done in his life (if any) are irrelevant. But I can't think of single positive thing that will be accomplished by locking him up. He's too old, she wants to let go, etc., etc. What's the point?

To me, most of the posters demanding imprisonment seem to be seeking vengeance. Sorry. I don't do vengeance.

[proteus_lives]

37. The point is we can't allow rapists to get away with their crimes.

It's not about how much time has passed or what the victim wants. Bringing a rapist to justice isn't vengeance, it's justice.

[roguevalley]

40. if age is the criteria for letting criminals off then you would have to

let them all off. I believe in accountability. One could say let Rumsfeld alone. he's old.

[ampad]

45. I personally do not care about the time or the money

This bastard needs to serve the rest of his life in prison. He raped a 13 year old girl. I know this keeps being repeated in this thread but IMO it seems it needs to be.

[LanternWaste]

47. Justice is a only waste of money for the intellectually lazy.

Justice is a only waste of money for the intellectually lazy.

Justice is not vengeance. Though they may overlap in both form and format, the intentions are quite different. I imagine anyone who believes themselves to be clever enough to read the intentions of fellow posters may have a bit more maturation to to do before they can speak aloud and not look ignorant.

[Hekate]

3. I think I'll go throw up now.

How about we just put this rapist in jail at long last?

Hekate

[Liberal_in_LA]

7. Some folks are romanticizing what happened. I posted this so they could see it for what is was

A middle aged dude taking advantage of a child sexually.

[TorchTheWitch]

9. he raped her

She repeatedly told him no. That's not taking advantage, that's RAPE. At any age it would be rape. The fact that she was only 13 only makes it worse.

[bbinacan]

4. That is one

sick fuck.

[msanthrope]

6. What a gentleman!!! Fearing conception, Polanski raped her anally, too. n/t

[Liberal_in_LA]

8. and so solicitous as to quiz his rape victim on her period and birth control

[msanthrope]

11. Some 'romantics' call that 'foreplay'.......n/t

[Hekate]

21. ... as he penetrated her; then shifted gears, so to speak...

[Shell Beau]

10. Oh yeah, he should go free. He has obviously been through a lot

and she even says so. :eyes: :sarcasm:

This is beyond disgusting. His ass should have been in jail long ago. I am HAPPY that they got him now.

[seabeyond]

12. and how many others has he raped, i would like to know. nt

[Shell Beau]

14. Me too. And I find it sad that not many people are even

considering that. I have a hard time believing she was the first and last.

[girl gone mad]

20. Yes, his wife was killed.

Apparently that gave the guy a free pass to rape 13 year olds. Maybe the girl he raped should get a free pass to commit child abuse or some other crime and we can continue this chain of violence ad infinitum.

:sarcasm:

[paulsby]

30. it's too late to fall in love with sharon tate

It's too Late - Jim Carroll Band

It's too late
To fall in love with Sharon Tate
But it's too soon
To ask me for the words I want carved on my tomb

I think it's time that you all start
To think about gettin' by
But I have that need to go out and find somebody to love

It's too late
There's no one left that I even wanna imitate
You see, you just don't know
I'm here to give you my heart
And you want some fashion show

But it ain't no contribution
To rely on an institution
To validate your chosen art
And to sanction your boredom
And let you play out your part

It's too late
You know when they got nothin' to give
They only part their legs for what's negative
They're so decadent . . .
Until their daddy's money from home's all spent

So I think it's time, because it's too easy
To rely on worshipping devils and strangers in bed,
Though they do get good drugs, and they do give good head

It's too late
You shoulda realized I was worth the wait
Ah, but you didn't hesitate
When he took you off, you let him seal our fate

So I think it's time
that you all start
To think about gettin' by
Without that need to go out and find
Somebody to love

[Whisp]

42. I'd like to skin him with a butterknife.

sometimes street justice is the best of all. if that were my child my life would be dedicated to getting that bastard and to hell with my prison sentence.

[Texasgal]

13. but...but there are DU'er that

think she's LYING.... yeah... HE fled the country and she is LYING. :eyes:

[SpookyCat]

15. Sickening.

I can't believe this "man" has been free and exalted for so long. I really want to see this POS in jail. :mad:


ETA: I rec'd this so people who think this was consensual will read that heartbreaking testimony.

[Odin2005]

16. OMG.

The idiots defending him can go straight to hell. :grr: :cry:

[Nikki Stone1]

17. + 100000

+

[Shell Beau]

18. And more ++++++++!

There is no defense.

[Odin2005]

19. None, none at all.

I have a disabled lady friend whose rapist got off a few months ago because his lawyer assassinated my friends character by appealing to the BS apologist "blame-the-victim" sentiment". I'm almost in tears over this crap. :cry:

[Hekate]

22. Tsk. We Americans are such prudes, you know. ~~~ gack~~~retch~~~

[seabeyond]

25. and he was just thinking with his little head, not his big head. i can NOT believe someone

said that. i cannot cannot cannot believe someone said that

another thread with a poll

[Odin2005]

27. If hating child rapists makes me a "prude" than I am a prude!

[Hekate]

33. I hope you read my previous posts and understand my sarcasm. Also I was quoting from another thread

After reading three or four pages from the unedited and unexpurgated transcripts linked in the OP, I was ready to throw up. There was no question in my mind that Polanski had a lot of practice with this kind of rape. Makes my flesh crawl.

Hekate

[Patriot 76]

23. Maybe someone can answer I question I have.

Why did it take 32 years to have a criminal brought to justice? What's the part of the story I'm missing?

Was this case a high priority for the U.S. Gov't under Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama?

Thanks in advance.

[seabeyond]

26. it is merely a rape and he is a good producer after all???? i dont know. nt

[LisaL]

29. He left for France and he is a French citizen.

They would not extradite him to US, as I understand it.

[SpartanDem]

32. The extradition treaty with France did not cover this crime

[Thickasabrick]

43. The International Warrant was issued in 2005. The US has always

been able to request that France prosecute him there, but the US has never requested it.

Why in 2005 is quite the puzzler to me.

[struggle4progress]

24. .. "True as they may be, the continued publication of those details causes harm to me, my beloved

husband, my three children and my mother" ...

Roman Polanski Victim Urges Case Dismissal
LINDA DEUTSCH | 01/13/09 09:24 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/roman-polanski-victim-urg_n_157391.html

[Shell Beau]

28. He is the one that has caused her all of that pain.

And he deserves to be face the charges for it. I am sad that this brings back all those memories for her and her family, but that is even more of a reason to charge him because he is the reason for that pain. There should be no freebie for any rapist.

[paulsby]

31. he doesn't need ot be charged

he's already been charged and convicted.

[struggle4progress]

34. Let us distinguish two separate issues. The first is the matter of the woman's feelings:

she was not merely a crime victim; she had the misfortune of becoming a famous crime victim; and considering the personal nature of the crime, and the fact that the story is regularly dredged up and its lurid details recapped before the whole world, she seems to have reached a point where the continuing public recital of lurid details offends her at least as much now as the original crime did. This is a natural and well-known reaction of sexual assault victims, who frequently don't want a lot of publicity, and that she feels this way after decades of piublic exposure shouldn't surprise anyone. Good taste and common decency might suggest that we should try to honor her desire that the lurid details not be the topic on everybody's lips and everybody's blog

The second issue is the prosecution policy issue. The courts will probably sort that out acceptably: the crime itself is not one to which most people are sympathetic, and prosecutors know that; moreover, the justice system seldom takes a friendly view of its fugitives, especially if they only reappear involuntarily before the bench after being apprehended

I think it best not to confuse these two issues

[Thickasabrick]

41. She insists that it is the media that has caused her the most harm.

I think continuing to publish the details is only hurting the victim.

[Shell Beau]

44. I have a hard time thinking she is the only victim, but the

victims don't get to make the choice of whether or not the criminal should be charged, etc.

[Thickasabrick]

46. But don't you agree they should have a choice as to what gets

published or released by the DA about the details? After reading all this, if I were a young rape victim, there is no way in hell I would ever voluntarily go forward with charges.

[blondeatlast]

35. Fuck the apologists. She. Was. A. Child. nt

[Pharlo]

38. He was an adult. She was a child.

Just that, and he would have been guilty of statuatory rape.

Add to that this young girl said 'No.' That is rape under any circumstances.

He should do his time.

Now that I have made my comments on that, where the HELL were this girls parents? She was 13, sexually active, had previously been drunk and high (though not at the same time). Why was she allowed to go to his place alone without a chaperone? Did her parents not care? If I had a 13 year old daughter who was going to 'have some pictures taken' you can damn well rest assured if I couldn't accompany her, some woman I know and trusted would be with her.

No, I'm not blaming her parents for his actions. HE is responsible for what HE did. But I also think a parent would have some type of clue if their 13 year old were into drugs, alcohol, and sex. My parents were separated, my mother had 4 kids, worked 2 jobs, and I couldn't even imagine having the ability to get away from her interrogations and demands to know where we were at every moment long enough to get into one of these things, much less all three.

[Nye Bevan]

39. K&R

I hope all of the child rape apologists read this. Many of their posts on this issue read like a NAMBLA manifesto.