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Sun Sep-27-09 08:15 PM
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Maybe the census worker DID kill himself |
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and made it look like a murder so his insurance would pay his beneficiaries.
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:18 PM
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:19 PM
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4. well, no suicide clauses in policies are real, unlike whatever an orc is. nt |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:19 PM
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I hear they have been having a freedom hating goblin problem in KY.
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Sun Sep-27-09 09:25 PM
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15. You are absolutely right |
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I had to put out goblin repellant in my Azaleas here in Lexington, they leave turds that smell worse than cat crap. :+ Big problem here in Ky.
The guy must have been Houdini to have managed to tape himself up like that then commit suicide. Of course he may have killed himself first then done the taping. Never know.
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Sun Sep-27-09 09:29 PM
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17. neither you nor I know anything about this case that would make suicide impossible |
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Mon Sep-28-09 02:17 AM
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28. AS a descendant of that part of KY... I'd say it was MURDER. |
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Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 02:20 AM by BeHereNow
Not proud of some of my kin there, but well aware of the ignorance and hate in certain populations there that suggest this was murder.
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get the red out
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Mon Sep-28-09 05:55 AM
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31. Is trolling this story fun? |
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Are you just trying to get a rise out of people who give a damn about what is going on with all the hate in our society? If so, I am sorry for you. If you have your head stuck in the sand I am sorry for that too.
You didn't even need to start this thread, just to have a chance to get after people for daring to believe the obvious. I don't know what's with you apologists on this story. I am FROM eastern Kentucky, born and raised, and I can tell you there is some fucking HATE out there for the outside. Even Democrats in that part of the country were scared by Obama's election.
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Mon Sep-28-09 10:51 AM
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32. Sounds like a wonderful place nt |
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Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 10:52 AM by subcomhd
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:21 PM
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7. Oh, yea, blame the Horde |
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it's always the green-skins.... :eyes: Maybe it was the long-eared goblinkin... da Nelfs. :evilgrin:
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Mon Sep-28-09 01:03 AM
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23. I'm guessing murlocks. |
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Mon Sep-28-09 02:31 AM
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30. No, it was a cave troll. nt |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:18 PM
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2. I'm sticking with auto-erotic asphyxiation. |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:19 PM
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5. i dont know why but that was my thought as well, no idea why it popped into my head |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:22 PM
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8. The difference is: I'm being sarcastic, and mocking the All Time Stupidest Post On DU. |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:24 PM
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9. lol i still thought of a sexual accident though, i guess we are going to have to wait unti the evid |
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comes in, :) though now im pretty sure my post is up there as the stupidest post of all time :)
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:29 PM
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glad to hear that Bloo - but by not including the sarcasim tag, there are some who think you are being SERIES! seriously SERIES! I am mocking the all time stupidest post right along with you.
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:30 PM
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11. Then why no Batman outfit? |
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Mon Sep-28-09 02:22 AM
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29. Need to add the sarcasm thingy- DU aint what it used to be. |
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Reader comprehension has fallen. BHN
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Mon Sep-28-09 10:52 AM
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33. And carving fed into himself |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:19 PM
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If we jump to conclusions based on a political narrative that some people here are just itching to promote, and then that narrative turns out to be false, we will (deservedly) look like idiots. That's why it is best to wait for the facts, and facts do not come by way of news leaks, BTW.
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:34 PM
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12. Life insurance policies cover suicide. |
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Let's lay some groundwork here. While insurance companies hate to part with a buck if they don't have to, they concluded long ago it was bad for business if the public saw them as weasels who routinely tried to get out of honoring their commitments. To reassure potential customers that this wasn't the case, in the mid-to-late 1800s they developed the incontestability clause, which limits the amount of time the company gets to uncover and object to problems with statements made in the policyholder's application. Once the specified period is over the company generally has to honor the policy.
A related change had to do with how insurers dealt with suicide. It used to be that policies regularly contained an open-ended exclusion for suicide - if the insured offed himself, regardless of how long after purchasing coverage, the insurer didn't have to pay. But there are conflicting public-policy positions here: One, long espoused by insurance companies, is that it's wrong to create an economic incentive for suicide by paying off beneficiaries. The other, ultimately adopted by most courts and state legislatures, argues that it's wronger to tell the grieving family they won't be seeing any insurance money because their loved one chose to take his life. After much litigation, the suicide exclusion has now been limited in most cases to two years, research having indicated that such a period is long enough to weed out those who buy life insurance with the specific intention of killing themselves thereafter.
So: if someone does himself in more than two years after his life policy took effect, the insurer typically will pay. If the death takes place within two years of the start date, though, and the insurance company can prove it's suicide, not an accident - it's their exclusion, so the burden's on them - they'll usually return any premiums that were paid, but that's it.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2746/would-life-insurance-be-paid-out-on-someone-executed-for-a-crime
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:37 PM
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13. after two years - as your post points out. nt |
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Sun Sep-27-09 08:48 PM
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14. Why don't we knock of the trolling until a few more facts come to light |
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I have read that his - His clothes were in his car (unknown state). - It was asphyxiation, not hanging - His feet were on the ground - He was not on duty for the census bureau
Some or all the above may not be true. Hard to say. Given the disparity in facts, waiting until official reports come out seems like the best idea. I am not saying believe what they say automatically, but just to wait and read them before we fire off in random bits of outrage.
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Sun Sep-27-09 09:28 PM
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16. My fiance suggested that they may have hung him just high enough so he could still breathe... |
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...if he was on his toes. Once he got so tired and couldn't hold himself up anymore, the rope would then have asphyxiated him. If that is true it's an even more horrible way to go.
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Sun Sep-27-09 10:06 PM
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21. Lots of theories out there, including druggies (growers and cookers) |
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not just wingnuts.
Waiting until the official reports are out just seems to be the mature thing to do
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Sun Sep-27-09 09:45 PM
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18. I have a sense of humor, but this right here is NOT FUNNY. |
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Jesus, WTF is wrong with you people??? Thank dog his family won't ever read this shit.
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Sun Sep-27-09 09:59 PM
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20. Ditto... people... go watch TV if you're bored.... |
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Mon Sep-28-09 10:58 AM
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34. I know--I usually can participate in dark humor threads, but the horrific nature |
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Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 11:02 AM by Mrs. Overall
of this crime and the implications if it is political, just make me sick.
Using his death to joke about masturbation and an insurance pay off for his devastated relatives is low.
It's also sad to think about what his elementary school students must be going through and how those kids are coping with the crime.
Sorry, usually I can find some humor, but this time it's hard.
Might also be a female DUer response vs. the male DUer response (just betting that most of the joking posts on this thread are men).
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Sun Sep-27-09 10:52 PM
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22. Hands and feet bound in duct tape; eyes and mouth taped... |
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Then hung himself from a tree.
That's one for Houdini, I'd say, if it was suicide.
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Mon Sep-28-09 01:58 AM
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24. I think The Lord killed him. |
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If jesus kills a kitten every time you masturbate, I wonder what we did for THIS to occur.
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Mon Sep-28-09 01:59 AM
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25. It was his response to the Michael Moore movie |
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God doesn't like it when we speak ill of Jesus's chosen economic system.
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Mon Sep-28-09 02:11 AM
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27. Just HAD to check your profile after reading your post- what is "Avocationing?" |
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Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 02:13 AM by BeHereNow
Just curious. Welcome to DU. BHN
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