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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 12:19 PM
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Child Sex Offenders = No Excuse=Laws Don't Always Protect The Victim
In Response of todays events...considering such went on during our ummm attempt to free Iraqians from evil I just don't know what to say...there will always be people who will find ways to excuse that which does not hurt them personaly...

So I typed in these two political parties and googled...on first two links shows the page of links ...I am sick...I know this is alot to take in but in all reality, it is but the icing on the cake we can not excuse those found quility...

Could add those in the religious organizations..but the room is limited on this thread..sick..all of it..


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu_Cz6sBKeGIAKyxXNyoA?p=democratic+child+sex+offenders&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-156&sao=1


democratic child sex offenders



http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu6w17cBKcXYAB3lXNyoA?p=republican+child+sex+offenders&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-156&sao=0

republican child sex offenders





http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/10/us/10execute.html?ei=5090&en=75a37596b25e8dc4&ex=1307592000&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1202238157-2pYcBjcOp3T5GCc8rgdUoA

Death Penalty in Some Cases of Child Sex Is Widening
By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: June 10, 2006

Oklahoma became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for sex crimes against children yesterday, a day after South Carolina enacted a similar law. The constitutionality of the new laws is unclear.
The Oklahoma measure, signed into law by Gov. Brad Henry, a Democrat, makes people found guilty of rape and other sex crimes more than once against children younger than 14 eligible for the death penalty.

http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/

• Republican Delegate Robert McKee, known as an advocate for children's rights, is the focus of a child pornography investigation after officers searched his Hagerstown, Md home. McKee is not facing any charges right now, but as of today, Feb 15, 2008, he has resigned his position as both a state delegate and as executive director of the Big Brothers Big Sisters Club of Washington County. In a statement, McKee said he is entering treatment to, "get well and stay well." Shock waves echoed through Hagerstown, as the news that he was being investigated for child pornography spread like wildfire.

**We will be keeping an eye on this story for further developments** ***UPDATE*** - Robert Mckee entered a guilty plea of possessing child porn on September 6, 2008. He was sentenced to 3 years in prison on November 21, 2008. McKee's journals document that he simultaneously printed images of child pornography from the Internet and printed stories describing sexual acts between young boys and other young boys or adult men. Someone from McKee's home called the Washington County Sheriff's Department to tip off authorities and provided them with printed images from a computer.

• Republican sex offender & Department of Children & Families press secretary Al Zimmerman, 40, was arrested Friday, Feb 1, 2008 and charged with eight felony charges of using a child in a sexual performance. According to an arrest report, Zimmerman offered two teens money in exchange for photographing them in sexual acts. The victims were ages 16 and 17 at the time of the crime, and at least one may have been in the care of DCF at one point, according to the report. Authorities believe some of the images date back to December 2005, the arrest report showed. Zimmerman is suspected of taking photos as recently as Friday, the report showed.

• The Republican Mayor, who is also the Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins Missouri, a town in St. Clair County, is accused of trying to convince someone whom he thought was a teenage girl to meet him for sex. Diamond police say Allen D Kauffman is charged in Newton County with four counts of enticement of a child after an online investigation that began in mid-November.
Diamond Police Detective Jim Murray says he posed as a 13-year-old girl named Cindy and was approached by a man who used the screen name duke dukeadk on Nov. 15 about noon in an online chat room.

Murray says Kauffman discussed meeting her to take nude photos and to have sex. Over the course of seven conversations during the past two months, transcripts show each chat was sexually graphic. Murray say Kauffman recognized the girl’s age, and even showed some hesitation, teasing the girl about whether she could be a cop.


• Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

• Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

• Republican Township Supervisor Robert Holland stepped down amid accusations that he sexually assaulted a 92-year-old nursing home resident in 2006. Holland, a 77-year-old Republican, pleaded guilty to aggravated indecent assault and related charges and is now serving a two- to four-year prison sentence in Bucks County.

• Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

• Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

• Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

• Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.

• Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

• Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

• Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

• Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

• Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

• Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

• Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

http://www.americablog.com/2006/09/house-gop-leadership-knew-about-foley.html

Does House Republican leader Denny Hastert have a soft spot for child sex offenders?

Seems so. Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert has some serious explaining to do, after today's revelations that they knew about ex-Congressman Mark Foley's sexscapades a good year ago, and did nothing.

Whether or not the kid's parents were fine with letting it go, which the story says is the case, why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert permit Foley to remain in the House GOP leadership for almost a year after they knew he was having sex talk with minors online, minors he met on the job?

Why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert leave Foley as the co-chair of the House body in charge of child sex offenses for a good year after they knew?

Why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert permit Foley to stay in the House at all, where he would be around other pages every day all day long?

And just as importantly, why did Republican House Speaker Denny Hastert let Foley lie publicly yesterday about the emails, claiming they were innocent, and simply a dirty attack from the Democrats, when the House leadership knew the real story?

And finally, we find out that the FBI was contacted two months about this story. Was there any follow-up from the Bush FBI? Or did they just let this potential case of child sex offense go by the wayside because it involved a friend of Bush


http://www.republicanoffenders.com/index.html

http://www.republicanoffenders.com/Pedophiles.html

October 14, 2008

20 year Republican Assembly memeber and State
Parole Board Commissioner George Chris Ortloff
was arrested in a federal child sex sting. Agents found
it suspicious when Ortloff arrived in an Albany-area
hotel with condoms, lubricant, vibrators and a camera
expecting to find a 12 year old girl and her 11 year old
sister, but the nail in the coffin was when he answered
the door naked. Commission Ortloff faces ten years to
life and a $250,000 fine.

http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/compendium-of-republican-sex-scandals.html


Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist from Colorado, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Denver ABC Article

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner from Maine, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist from Maryland, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Source: Washington Blade

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/es/2003/05/6106.shtml

http://www.illuminati-news.com/bush-cia-mc-and-child-abuse.htm



George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse May 5, 2003 From the Streets of Little Beirut Glen Yeadon On January 28, 2003, amid the furor of the impending war with Iraq the British press briefly reported on Operation Ore, the most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children before being squashed by the Blair government. Besides implicating Rock guitarist Peter Townsend of the Who, the report claimed that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for pedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography. With the investigation reaching to senior members of his Government, Blair declared a news blackout on the story. Moreover, the British report was not the first such case reported. In fact, it followed on the heels of a report from Portugal. On November 27, 2002, the press reported a scandal of pedophile ring run from a state orphanage. The Guardian reported that the scandal threatened to engulf diplomats, media personalities and senior politicians. Photographs of senior government officials with young boys from Lisbon's Casa Pia orphanage were among the evidence. More shocking however, were the revelations that systematic sexual abuse of children at the home had allegedly been going on for more than 20 years and had been known to police and other authorities for most of that time. On January 14, 2002, Insight Magazine reported the charges leveled by Ben Johnson against his employer Dyncorp, a major defense contractor. Johnson charged that officials and employees of Dyncorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior and were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and participating in other immoral acts. Johnson had witnessed his supervisors and fellow employees buying 12- to 15-year-olds as sex slaves.



http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_world_class_criminal.html

George Bush is a satanic, sadistic, brutal monster.
Compared to George Bush, Adolf Hitler was a true gentleman.”

- Michael Boren Williams, former Campaign Manager for Senator Gary Hart and Bush murder attempt victim



“For the record, if I had my choice as to which one of the two (Clinton or Bush) represented the greater evil, I would say George Bush - in the blink of an eye....”

- Michael Ruppert, former LAPD Narcotics detective

The Bush Connection to a Child Sex Ring

In May 94 the Discovery Channel was Pressured by Top Republican Leaders Not to Air this Video-The child Sex Ring That Reached Bush SR at the Whitehouse and the linkage of Franklin to some of this country’s top politicians in Washington, and in the US Congress, with particular attention on those who attended parties held by Larry King at his Washington mansion on Embassy Row and are secretly being continued today by and through the CIA. It is a fact that during the 1980's, child sexual services were provided by top Republican officials to key, bureaucrats and diplomats but most importantly, there is a chilling proximity of all of these events and personalities, to the President of the United States at the time, George H.W. Bush. Former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. WATCH VIDEO HERE:

http://www.freewebs.com/childsexalert

http://www.cerebellum.tv/fvideo/mckinney_v_rummy.php Congresswoman McKinney Grills Rumsfeld
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 12:52 PM
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1. Their are some preachers out there need to watch out... oh wait, they have god on their side.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:16 PM
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2. Before either other thing is done in this regard, first the laws must be reviewed and standardized.

We can't even narrow "age of consent" to single definition that everyone understands. Age of consent can mean the age of consent to marry, or the age of consent to have sex. The two are not necessarily the same. So we read articles about this awful thing which was discovered, a "GROWN MAN" who had sex with "a GIRL" , except that she's the same age her grandmother was when her mother was born and he's the same age her grandfather was when he married her grandmother. There is a moral breakdown in society when laws don't make sense. It doesn't make sense to say that a 14 year old can get married and have sex all she wants, but if she isn't married then he's a child molester.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:03 PM
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3. Well for me being female..its a tough one as far as consenting...but
in romans case no is no...case closed..crime..

In some of the cases done in this thread by repugs...well, its obvious that some was consentual...so as you've stated...in my mind anyway age is an iffy thing...when that age involves teenagers...I recall one girl in intermediate school...by no means did this young girl look eleven...not even a teen yet..she came to school back then (no dress code) in very revealing shirts, short skirts and such but now we have..well if she got attacked..would some cry foul on her part simply because of the way she dressed?

I say they cannot, regardless that she walked around as if she knew it all, I have no doubt she was not all that experienced unless you count the experience of flirtation..is that a crime? does flirting in our society and revealing clothing remain an alibi for sexual offenders?

and your right about how hard it is to narrow down age of consent..I know of a thirteen year old girl who did indeed perform sexual acts in eight grade because she cared not who saw....now we can investigate further and wonder if she was perhaps damaged in someway early on as in raped and so in her own way began what some rape victims begin..sexual promescuity..

And your right..In the "old" days...thirteen was considered child bearing years...and many many much older men did indeed have sex with these young girls but lets go back to the time? Was the sex between young woman and old man allowed in they were married, yes...is it in more likelihood that said young female found her first time to be forced on her? I would say more often than not , yes...

It wasn't right back then and it is not right in this day and age regardless if those involved were long past relatives..woman and children were seen as little more than a necessary function like the milking cow etc...

It's hard for me...at thirteen though not exactly mature I knew what I was doing when I did it..I allowed some to believe I would when in fact I did not.I was luckier than some...I've never been forced...but as I said I was lucky because I did lead some on...

I think what I was lucky at was being around young men who more than likely are not the raping of females type but according to many of my acquaintances they were not so lucky....thing is...those males that did indeed force themselves on females whom after getting them all worked up and then backing down are in my mind criminals and yet for so many it is the old dad pat on the back type guilt they are ultimately led to believe they are guilty of..

and I speak of those who believe it is NOT rape if the female in question pushed you to ummmmm a so called uncontrollable limit of physical awareness...

I call bullshit on those that believe such...if you cannot control yourself in a situation there is no reason for me to believe that if you lost control that time than your bound to lose it again....


sadly general hospital made forced rape a seductive love story...and that my friend is what most of us are at war against. we were then and we still are today...

...:puke:






I have no concrete answers for the age of consent..depends on the person I would have to say...but under teenage years I say unable to fully understand the ramifications of allowing yourself to engage in sex..beyond that age..well...kids have always known more than their parents believe of them but there has to be somewhere to draw the line


I would like to add one thing more...just my opinion but I believe females do mature faster than their male counterparts...so for the male it should be older...
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