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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:43 PM
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More women with breast cancer opt to remove healthy breast.
A rising number of women are choosing to remove a healthy breast after being diagnosed with breast cancer -- even though there is little evidence that doing so improves survival, a new study found.

The research, which appears in Cancer, the journal of the American Cancer Society, examined data from 6,275 New York state women, who had prophylactic mastectomies -- removal of a non-cancerous breast as a preventive measure.

Researchers looked at women who had a healthy breast removed after the discovery of cancer in the other breast as well as woman without cancer who had both breasts removed, but had a strong family history of the disease or a gene making them more susceptible to it.

From 1995 to 2005, the number of women who had cancer in one breast and choose to have the other breast removed more than doubled. Those with no personal history of breast cancer who had both breasts removed also increased, but slightly.

While the number of these kinds of mastectomies remains small, they're rising and such surgery comes with risks. Other studies reveal increases in overal mastectomies, raising concerns that some women are being treated too aggressively and whether doctors are doing the right thing for patients.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/health/2009/09/mastectomy_breast_cancer.html
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:46 PM
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1. Makes sense to me
Why go through it again?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:20 PM
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6. My wife did it too, but it did not help
Her decision and I agreed.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:34 PM
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7. I'm sorry
:hug:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:49 PM
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11. hugs
:hug:

from someone who understands.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:26 PM
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16. I am so sorry! (hugs)
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:27 PM
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26. Thanks for the hugs. It runs in her family, she was really diligent about checks and mammograms
I was always in denial. She was younger than me, and I always assumed I would die first, particularly given what I have done to myself over the years. She passed well at home with her family. We also had two daughters, so they are extra vigilant as well.

Its an easy thing to talk about the cycle of life until its your immediate family. A friend of mine commented that about half the time I speak as if she was alive, though its been several years.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:53 PM
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2. Several years ago I worked with a woman who had lost her mother and..
sister to breast cancer. Her father and her husband were both surgeons and when her time came and she was diagnosed (very early) she had a double mastectomy with a tummy tuck and full reconstruction right away. She felt safe, she looked great and she living a long healthy life with her husband and children.

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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:35 PM
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4. I don't get it. Why does cancer like breasts? Are we talking the glands or the fat?
As for the surgery, you bet I would have them removed.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:30 PM
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17. Why did she have plastic surgery of the abdomen at the same
time as life-saving surgery (mastectomy)?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 09:00 PM
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24. I think sometimes fat from the abdomen is used in the
reconstruction of the breasts. Assuming that's the case here, might as well have the tummy tuck done right if they were already working on that part of your body.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:03 PM
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3. My wife had it done
When she was diagnosed in 2003 with breast cancer, she opted to have both removed rather than have to go through it again. She had immediate reconstruction, and has been cancer free for over six years. HAsn't even been to doctor in three years!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:47 PM
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8. I had one breast removed. Very much
regret not having the oher one removed, too.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:45 PM
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19. Her mammograms always prompted follow-ups
She had fibro-cystic disease which produced firbous cysts in her breasts that the radiologist thought might be masking something more sinister. Every time she went back, it was always the same, so she basically stopped getting the mammograms. When the tumor showed up and she was diagnosed with cancer, she decided she did not want to have to worry about, much less go through with all this again, so she opted to have both breasts removed. Although she had immediate reconstruction, a year later (on Christmas day)she contracted scarlet fever, which is a condition of an untreated strep infection. The infection attached to the implants and both had to be removed immediately! She waited a year and found a young, very brilliant surgeon who did the second reconstruction surgery. (The first surgeon did a really lousy job) The second surgery was so good, the surgeon uses her photos for advertisement!
The first guy basically stuck a couple of implants in and sewed her up. The second did a latissimus flap where they take muscle tissue from your back, push it through your rib cage, and use it to contain the implants. It looks much more natural and she actually has natural tissue there, too.

She declined taking chemo and radiation, although it was recommended. She even stopped taking the maintenance drugs after a few weeks because they had such horrible side effects, and if she does have a reoccurrence, they would just give her the same medications anyway. She wound up sending her six month supply of drugs to a young mom she met on BCANS (a forum for women who have or have had breast cancer) who could not afford to buy the drugs she was prescribed. I don't know if it was legal or not, but it seemed like the right thing to do!

SIX YEARS CANCER FREE and counting! Through a strange twist of fate, we inherited a large sum of money shortly afterward, enough to last us the rest of our lives, so we both retired and we have spent every day together and intend to do so as long as we have time together left!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:38 PM
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25. Tell her hi from a "sister." I turned
chemo down. Did radiation and Tamoxofen. Enjoy each other - God Bless.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:57 PM
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5. Count me as one of those women...
But, the pathology report indicated there may have been more trouble ahead. No regrets.
However, I had to give up my job at Hooters. **Sigh**

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:48 PM
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9. My wife wishes she had had that done
to reduce the constant worry about the healthy, surviving breast.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:49 PM
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10. I would do that in a heartbeat
my friend did it and she doesnt regret it.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:48 PM
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12. Gosh, the "Save the Ta-Tas" crew will be disappointed to hear this.
I wonder if they will try to persuade these women, if they will not keep the breast, to at least have it preserved under glass or something so they can still admire it. After all, it's not the woman they care about saving, it's her breasts.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:50 PM
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22. Serious or sarcastic?
I really can't tell, but perhaps you're taking the slogan a little too literally?
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:06 PM
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13. As one whose spouse is eligible for prophylactic double mastectomy
(lobular carcinoma in situ) we considered it and rejected it - she participated in the tamoxifen trial, as an alternative. I also have a strong family of breast cancer (mother and grandmother with breast cancer) and would make the same decision.

There is some decreased risk that invasive breast cancer will develop. The problem is that you cannot remove all the breast tissue - and any remaining breast tissue will be susceptible to cancer. Feeling safe (because the breasts are gone) may lead to complacency about monthly BSE, missing something that is there because of a sense that there is a margin of safety, etc.

Reconstructive surgery makes it even more challenging because the implant would be on top of whatever remaining breast tissue there is, making detection more challenging.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:13 PM
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14. If they carry one of the BRCA genes then they should
If they already have breast cancer and have the gene(s) their chances of recurring are large. And why go through life wondering when the second shoe will fall?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:25 PM
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15. I'd do it. In a heartbeat. Especially if I had a strong
family genetic tie to it.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:43 PM
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18. I see this fairly often
On my floor we care for post DIEP breast reconstructions, as well as a couple of other types. This uses the woman's own flesh to create a new breast, or breasts. Generally beautiful results.

One of the things I've found--since we're not an oncology floor-- is that it's easy to care for the patient after surgery, not remembering this is a patient after cancer. Cancer still matters to these women, it's an enormous fear as well as a life altering event. From the initial diagnois, sometimes by finding a lump on a self examination, to the type of treatment; the radiation, the chemo with all that entails, to the impaired body image, the decision whether or not to reconstruct, the type of reconstruction--all requires much thought and a lot of decisions.

The ones who get both breasts removed are usually the ones at higher risk for the return of cancer but even if that's not the case, I understand why a woman would make this choice.

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:10 AM
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27. I'm considering the DIEP reconstruction. I heard it's a hard recovery.
It's encouraging to hear that you've seen what you describe as beautiful results.
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hokies Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:48 PM
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20. I saw a news story where a woman without breast cancer had her breasts removed
because she had a family history with breast cancer. I think she was in her mid-30s and already had children.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:49 PM
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21. Christina Applegate had both removed even though she only had one affected
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Applegate#Breast_cancer

On August 19, 2008. It was announced that Applegate is cancer free after a double mastectomy, even though cancer was found in only one breast.<16> She has an inherited genetic fault, a BRCA1<17> mutation, which often triggers breast cancer. Her mother, Nancy Priddy, is a breast cancer survivor. Applegate said when she first was diagnosed "I was just shaking and — and then also immediately, I had to go into ... 'take-care-of-business-mode'" which included a change to a more healthy diet.

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Actually it's also happening more often that women with 2 healthy breasts will have them removed if their family has a strong history of breast cancer. I would suspect that especially after someone was done permanently with nursing and they knew their family's track record - this probably makes alot of sense.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:54 PM
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23. My sister had a double mastectomy
back in 1998. It was a little over a year after my mom died in 1996 that my sister, then aged 49, also found a lump in her breast.

She elected to have both removed and has never looked back.

At the end of October she's participating in the Susan G Komen 3-Day Walk in Atlanta. :-)
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