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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:33 PM
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Do you think our reps should be able to pass a some sort of basic civil service exam?
Shouldn't they all know something about law, government, finance, history, economics, etc?

Are they even subject to the same scrutiny that most of the non-appointed administrative pool of the Congress is?

Do we have any bottom line criteria for the job? We DO employ them. They are ACTUAL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES albeit elected ones.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:35 PM
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1. I support as few restrictions on people's right to vote for whomever they please as possible.
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 06:35 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: I also support changes that would make Americans not be largely a bunch of fucking idiots, and (predictably) voting for same for office.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:38 PM
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2. Which gives us the freedom to elect a Confederacy of Dunces
I'm not sure it's a freedom I'm willing to fight for.

I'm just talking a civil service exam for cripes sake! Shouldn't the people who formulate laws be subject to the same hiring standards as those who implement the laws?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:40 PM
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4. This is so stupid, there's really nowhere to go with it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:39 PM
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3. Acually, all HS graduates should be able to pass
a citizenship exam.

We elect these dunces because the population has no clue who they are or what they do... or who they work for.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:42 PM
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5. Not citizenship - civil service
Different.

But I agree with the rest of your post.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:43 PM
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6. Yeah but there is where we have to start
as to civil service... so many of these idiots would not pass.

The founders are rolling in their graves.

They got literacy, but they can't read...

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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:46 PM
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7. should being the key word
Unfortunately, I don't think government class is even required in high school anymore. I hope I am wrong, but I used to tutor government students at a local community college.... it is stunning what people do not know about civics in general.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:48 PM
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8. And that's on purpose
which speaks volumes actually. I think the effort started with Reagan
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:53 PM
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10. yes
I agree completely. I swear I learned more about civics and our government in kindergarten than current students learn in their whole educational career... But 1976 was a good year for civics. :)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:18 PM
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13. That's probably where it should be
As to those constituencies that elect idiots, maybe we should shun them or something. Though there could still be good people there.

Whatever district elected Bachmann, for example, should be made an example of. The entire state of Alaska deserves like opprobrium.

(I know, I know, there are good DUers in those places). But dayum!

Maybe it is enough punishment to see your governor/representative acting like a total idiot in public.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:48 PM
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9. I have long wanted to see some basic test given to candidates
Just to be sure they were mentally capable of understanding the issues.

If something like that had been in place, we may not have been inflicted with 8 years of Bush.
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:56 PM
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11. How about a simple test of logic, what comes before and after, what is
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 06:57 PM by robo50
cause, and what is effect?

Seems like most Republicans can't figure that stuff out.

Oh, and follow that with a test of sanity. No Republican would EVER hold office again!
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:13 PM
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12. Yes we do have a bottom line criteria for the job
Read Article I section 2 paragraph 2 and section 3 paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution. To apply any other criteria to the election of a represenative or Senator will require an amendment to the Constitution.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:39 PM
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14. how bout having arnold pass the california high school exit exam? nt
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