FBI VET CONFIRMS KEY EDMONDS ALLEGATION

[BradBlog]

Former FBI Agent Confirms: Bush State Official Was Target of 'Decade-Long' Espionage Probe
Longtime counterintel official acknowledges evidence behind key aspect of allegations against Marc Grossman made by former FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds
Agency vet says investigation was 'buried and covered up', calls for new investigation, 'accountability'...

George W. Bush's third-highest ranking State Department official, Marc Grossman, who became the Under Secretary of State after previously serving as Ambassador to Turkey, was targeted as part of a "decade-long investigation" by the FBI, according to an 18-year veteran manager of the agency's Counterintelligence and Counterespionage departments.

For still-unknown reasons, the investigation which also involved a multitude of cases involving Israeli espionage, was ultimately "buried and covered up", according to the official.

The comment from the former FBI official John M. Cole, in response to recent, stunning disclosures made by former FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, helps to shore up a key aspect of her allegations. Cole is now calling for an investigation to help "bring about accountability" in the matter...

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7439

[JuniperLea]

1. May the list of confirmations grow and grow...

Is anyone listening, yet? Seriously, Brad, you are the only one I'm hearing talk about this... sadly.

But keep it up!

PS - You rock when you take over for Mike Malloy... I don't even get mad that he isn't on... but don't tell him... shhhh...

You do great radio.

[BradBlog]

5. 'Anyone listening'?

Juniper Lea asked: "Is anyone listening, yet? Seriously, Brad, you are the only one I'm hearing talk about this... sadly."

Sadly, indeed. Reminds me of the days when I was also the only one talking about election integrity/e-voting issues. Have to report what I see as credible and newsworthy. No matter who else is covering, ir not.

"PS - You rock when you take over for Mike Malloy... I don't even get mad that he isn't on... but don't tell him... shhhh...You do great radio."

Thanks, JL. I'll be back hosting this Wednesday night. Just for the night. Hope you'll tune and call in! What would you like me to cover? :-)

[fascisthunter]

13. we are listening...

and by word of mouth, or word by keyboard, others are learning about this.

[JuniperLea]

18. What scares me the most right now...

The haters. Gun toting, double digit IQ bearing, bigoted haters feeding on lies... and why do the liars get away with inciting hatred? And yes, violence, they are encouraging violence. Why was it "treason" for the Dixie Chicks to say negative things about a sitting president, but when Sarah Palin does exactly the same thing, she's termed a "patriot?" Ok, so that last one may be a rhetorical question... may as well ask you why we live:)

And as always, please continue to connect those corroborative/evidentiary dots in Sibel Edmonds' testimony! This elephant is growing so huge it will burst the room soon (I hope) and we'll have undeniable, irrefutable proof positive that "some people" belong behind bars.

Thanks for all you do, Brad. It's a brave thing you do, this shining of light and telling of truths.

[orleans]

35. cover this story--sibel. n/t

[AntiFascist]

2. K&R n/t

[JohnyCanuck]

3. Wouldn't you love to know what those "unknown reasons" are?

I sure would.

For still-unknown reasons, the investigation which also involved a multitude of cases involving Israeli espionage, was ultimately "buried and covered up", according to the official.

[unc70]

12. You answered you own question: "cases involving Israeli espionage"

That is usually enough reason for investigations to be suppressed.

[bertman]

20. My thoughts exactly, unc70. "For still unknown reasons". ". . .multitude of cases

involving Israeli espionage". Who woulda thunk it.

Also, hello from a UNC '69 guy.

[AntiFascist]

31. There's more to it than that....

I realize that, in the past, there have been very treasonous cases involving Israeli espionage, but, if its possible, this seems to be much bigger. There are connections to the Turkish mafia and hints that it ties in with terrorist funding. According to Sibel, it may be all the same corruption. This may be getting swept under the rug for the same reasons that the Iran-Contra and BCCI scandals were. A scandal so huge that anyone who dares mention it is immediately treated like a batshit crazy conspiracy theorist.

On edit: I wouldn't be surprised if seemingly neutral nations like the UAE and Switzerland and tied up in this. Perhaps that explains why Switzerland is so eager to help out the US in other criminal cases.

[blm]

42. Marc Rich was named figure in IranContra and BCCI reports - pardoned by Clinton FOR Poppy Bush

and they use his links with Israel to excuse his link to GHWBush's criminal operations of drugrunning, moneylaundering and armsdealing as way of funding global terrorism networks.

Israel became a convenient smokescreen for the global fascists.

[JohnyCanuck]

4. The mainstream media whores aren't stupid

They know that for appearances sake they might be allowed to indulge in a little boat rocking from time to time, but boat rocking to the point of putting the boat in danger of tipping over completely is a definite no-no.

Unfortunately, neither 60 Minutes, nor any other major corporate U.S. media outlet, has bothered to cover Edmonds' allegations now that she is much more free to speak, since the Obama Administration chose not to invoke the "State Secrets Privilege" prior to her 8/8/09 deposition which allowed her to begin sharing the full breadth of her extraordinary allegations publicly for the first time.

[JohnyCanuck]

25. We could contact the media gatekeepers and at least see

if it is all possible to shame then into growing any semblance of a backbone.

From a comment on this story posted at Bradblog.com:

Contact 60 Minutes. Contact them all.

[e-mail]

[e-mail]

PHONE: [phone]

60 Minutes
524 West 57th St.
New York, NY 10019

[e-mail]

I don't know what will work, but we have to try something.

[JuniperLea]

28. Well done!

I'm willing to try it... if we have time to post on DU, we have time to do this!

[troubledamerican]

6. December 2001: Bush Halts Inquiry Into Boston FBI

which was home of Logan Airport, 9/11 hijacker departure point, and also where current FBI chief Mueller once worked.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1214-01.htm

Brad Blog article above: "For still-unknown reasons ... the investigation was ultimately "buried and covered up" according to (John Cole)"

Same FBI that Bush helped cover-up.

What is Mueller hiding?

[NoSheep]

24. "The truth is out there". A big sign in my office reminds me every day.

MIHOP or LIHOP makes no difference to me.

[alfredo]

7. Let's get it on!!

[loudsue]

8. I thought Waxman had promised Sibel Edmonds that the investigation would go on.

Ya know, we don't hear much about Waxman anymore. I wonder who got to him.

[BradBlog]

9. I thought he did too. After Dems got the majority. Guess he was just kidding. n/t

[sabrina 1]

10. Do you think that now more FBI agents will come forward, Brad?

Sometimes it takes someone having the courage to come forward, to encourage others to do the same. I hope so.

K&R and thanks for your work on this story ~

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

40. I doubt it - check out

Senator Grassley questioning Mueller on FBI Whistleblower Protection.


http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=4046

[sabrina 1]

44. Thanks, the video is not working for me

Is there a transcript somewhere, I couldn't find it in the link.

Another question though, could retired FBI agents come forward with fewer consequences than those still in he Agency? I know that whistle-blowers are not popular or protected much anymore. I suppose they could lose their benefits ~ just wondering why more have not spoken out ~

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

47. No transcript that I know of

The gist of what Grassley was asking about was who and why whistleblower protections - in the FBI were removed or lessened.

Mueller didn't know who, said he would look into it and get back to the committee. Grassley asked him if clearance for the info would have to come from DOJ because DOJ has been stonewalling him.

I don't know if he's talking about Holder or Muckcrazy.

Part of why more don't volunteer info, I believe, is because of the fine dance of not revealing classified info.
Another point is the strong govt. pressure of State Secrets that aren't for fear that citizens might connect the dots with what info is revealed.

With what we already have been told, reading between the lines a lot can be surmised.

[sabrina 1]

49. Well, the date on the video link is Sept. 16, 2009

So, if the DOJ 'has been stone-walling him' it sounds like the current DOJ. Unless he's talking about the past.

Thanks, Grassley is an unlikely person to be doing this, although I do remember being surprised by him in the past regarding looking into corruption. I think it had something to do with the Abramoff affairs. His secretary was mugged, airc and it was thought it had something to do with what he was looking into. Never heard if they ever solved that crime.

Anyhow, thanks, I wasn't aware of that hearing. It will be interesting to see if Mueller ever gets back to him with the information.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

51. I had some

trouble at first with the webcast too.

The hearing (webcast) doesn't start until about 5 mins. into launching it. If you are not getting a message about 'stream not found' you probably can view it. Use your mouse and advance the timer dojiggy on the webplayer a few to see if it will actually broadcast the hearing.

That's what I ended up doing because it seemed like I waited and waited and nothing was happening.

I thought Grassley was part of another investigation with Senator Leahy but it could have been about Abramoff. I was thinking Rove so you are probably right.

Anyway, you're welcome.

[BradBlog]

48. Retired FBI still have NDA concerns...

Sabrina asked:

"could retired FBI agents come forward with fewer consequences than those still in he Agency? ... just wondering why more have not spoken out ~"

There are still concerns about non-disclosure requirements, even after leaving the FBI. So former agents still need to tread carefully. That said, I believe if even a portion of what Sibel has to say is accurate, that the right thing to do is step forward, somehow, to expose what appears, so far by all accounts, to be a MASSIVE insider cover-up.

[sabrina 1]

50. I can understand that.

It would take a lot of courage to step forward. It's clear that a lot of people know what Sybel knows though and it seems at some point, if even half of what she says is true, as you said in your other post, she has taken risks on their behalf, it really is their duty if they know she is telling the truth, to come forward and support her.

But we do not know what pressures they are under, and isn't it a good sign that the current DOJ did not prevent her from testifying? I can't think of any reason for them to that other than to let the information get out there and then, take it from there.

[BradBlog]

41. I hope so, I've called for it, and she's been there for them...

I've called for other FBI folks -- as there are likely many who know about it, presuming her charges are accurate -- to come forward, either publicly, or in some other way. They are FBI folks, they should be able to figure it out. For example, my snail mail address, where I'd welcome documents, is on every page at The BRAD BLOG (and, for the record here, it's Brad Friedman
7095 Hollywood Blvd., #594, Los Angeles, CA 90028).

I'm quite certain they've been paying attention to this story over the years, knows who she is, and what she's been up against, and also that she's been fighting for THEM via her founding of the National Secutiry Whistleblowers Coaltion, etc.

She's been fighting for THEM, it's time they step up and support HER, as far as I'm concerned.

That's a dangerous game for them, as it could mean their jobs, but she's already lost hers in the bargain, and those guys can surely figure out how to help confirm (or even rebut!) the information she's now risked her neck to share publicly, without endangering themselves.

For the record: I am a journalist. And, as such, respect the anonymity of sources who share important, legitimate information. I could not do what I do, unless folks I worked with understood that I respect their privacy, and would be willing to go to jail to protect it where necessary.

[sabrina 1]

43. I don't see why they should lose their jobs for coming forward

with facts that affect national security, so long as they don't violate any laws regarding classified information, at least until there are hearings and they are proven wrong. But I know what you mean. That would be in a fair world.

The silence of Congress on a story like this, and the MSM, is incredible also. If she is lying, then why not sue her?

Hastert eg, going to work as a lobbyist for Turkey when all this information is out there, should at least cause Congress to ask a few questions.

On the good side, at least the DOJ didn't enforce the gag order which allowed her to testify. I doubt that would have happened under Bush. Maybe more is going on than we know about.

Anyhow, thanks again for your work on this. So many questions, and no one in authority seems to want to ask them, let alone find answers.

[Autumn]

14. Well the numbers have changed, we need

at least a 120 to have a majority. New rules don't you know. Thank you and Sibel for all you have done, and keep it up.

[elehhhhna]

23. breaking news : we need 240+

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. Waxman no longer serves on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee

He left that Committee to serve as the Chairman of the Commerce and Energy Committee.

[cascadiance]

32. Had hoped that Dennis Kucinich would get the Government Oversight chair position when Waxman left...

... but the "hiders" won out and got Eldophus Towns chairing the committee instead, who as Phil Giraldi noted, has shown no interest in subpoenaing Sibel at all.

Would have been a real nice opportunity if Dennis had gotten it, and some at the time were speculating that he might.

[robertpaulsen]

29. In his two years heading the Oversight Commitee, Waxman did NOTHING for her.

I sent him a copy of the second edition of American Judas that detailed her case within the larger context of the criminal Cheney administration in February 2007, but heard no word back. I was not the only progressive activist to receive the silent treatment from Waxman:


Sibel Edmonds and Henry Waxman's Silence

At Let Sibel Edmonds Speak, we've been trying for months to get Henry Waxman to hold public open hearings into the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds.

Mike Mejia has penned a(nother) great piece called "The Silence of Henry Waxman" (below, in full). Mejia writes:

"Henry Waxman knows very well who Sibel Edmonds is; he can't plead ignorance. He has heard her testimony behind closed doors... But despite the shock and outrage that Waxman apparently expressed when he heard the full classified version of Edmonds' allegations, his answer to the former translator and her grassroots supporters has been silence. Absolute silence. "

more...

http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2007/06/sibel-edmonds-and-henry-waxmans-silence.html

You wonder who got to him? I don't know. My number one suspect is AIPAC, but I really have no proof.

[JohnyCanuck]

11. Kill the Messenger trailer (Youtube video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Jn4vTGb_8&feature=player_embedded

[cascadiance]

33. When are they EVER going to make the 80+ updated version of this film available?

I lucked out and saw it in Vancouver at the DOXA film festival, but you can only get the older shorter 52 minute version online (from what I've been able to find). The longer version adds a lot more updated info on the London Times article that point to Grossman, etc.

There's more censorship at work for ya! At least find some way to get it available on DVD for us someplace!

Here's another film that appears to be available in Europe and censored in terms of availability here that covers the most recent Turkish controversial topics (Ergenekon, the Deep State, Hrant Dink assassination, etc.), as well as that of other Balkan states. We need to lobby to get the full length English version of this set on DVD here as well.

http://www.esiweb.org/index.php?lang=en&id=311&film_ID=10

[Greyhound]

16. No, no, no!

She's an America hating, communist at the gate, simply stirring up shit to write her next book! What's the matter with you, don't you read DU?
:eyes:

[valerief]

17. K&R

:kick:

[Gwereeya]

19. K&R

Yet the MSM continues to be quiet on this story! :shrug:

[bertman]

21. Thanks again to Bradblog for keeping us informed about what's REALLY going on

in our world.

Recommend.

[annabanana]

22. Sooner or later, the thread that unravels the whole cloth of lies will

be pulled. We just don't know what thread that will be.

[pberq]

26. Thanks, Brad - nt

[OnyxCollie]

27. K&R. nt

[Turbineguy]

30. I'm saying it happened,

but I would not be surprised if a Bush appointee somewhere was informing Osama bin Ladin where we were going to look next.

[Gwereeya]

34. Kick!

[nashville_brook]

36. kick, rec, etc.

[Uncle Joe]

37. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Bradblog.

[wildbilln864]

38. k&r! nt

[mmonk]

39. Thanks Brad. We need to keep pushing for accountability.

[Gwereeya]

45. Kick!

[Vattel]

46. I wonder if Grossman was taking bribes,

deliberately facilitating the sale of nuclear secrets, providing names of Congresspersons and Pentagon officials who could be compromised, etc. We already knew he was involved in a scandal in Turkey. I believe (although I could be wrong) that he was being investigated by the FBI. Coleman corroborates that much. If he corroborated Edmonds' charges of taking bribes, etc., that would be big news.