Anybody know anything about this Lou Dobbs eliminate the...

[Bonhomme Richard]

second amendment using a foreign treaty email I just got.
I've got a wacko relative that sends me this crap.
here's the link
http://wearechangecoloradosprings.org/blog/?p=594

[Richardo]

1. Doesn't that sound ridiculously stupid on its face?

There might be fewer idiotic rumors floating around if there was a LOT more dismissive mocking.

[Bonhomme Richard]

2. I watched the video and I don't get where that...

treaty takes away anyone's rights. All it does is share gun registration data.
I'll have to read the treaty.

[doc03]

4. Well yes it could, it would create a national registry for

guns, something the NRA has been fighting for decades. From their point of view if all guns are registered the government knowing who owns what would then be able to confiscate all guns or any guns some anti gun advocate would decide to outlaw. This is extremely disturbing to see Obama pushing for this.
on edit: To give a foreign government such information is even more disturbing. Some a-hole decides to outlaw semi-auto shotguns and orders everyone turn their semi-auto shotguns in they know exactly who has one. Same thing if a foreign country would invade the USA they would also have a list of the citizens owning firearms.

[HughMoran]

3. Aww geez

lol

[Bonhomme Richard]

5. Nevermind.. This is what I replied be email to all

I'm really tempted to be snarky but I will refrain.
The purpose of this Convention is:

to prevent, combat, and eradicate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials;
to promote and facilitate cooperation and exchange of information and experience among States Parties to prevent, combat, and eradicate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials.

Me: It seems to me if you go after a guy importing illegal weapons then there must be some way to verify that they are illegal or should communist/socialist be allowed to sneak weapons across borders without any way to verify the illegality of the enterprise? You can't possibly be for communist/socialist sneaking weapons here and there.

I assume this is what you are talking about. I don't see anything about owners of firearms mentioned but maybe I'm dense.

ARTICLE XIII
Exchange of Information

1. States Parties shall exchange among themselves, in conformity with their respective domestic laws and applicable treaties, relevant information on matters such as:

a. authorized producers, dealers, importers, exporters, and, whenever possible, carriers of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials;

b. the means of concealment used in the illicit manufacturing of or trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials, and ways of detecting them;

c. routes customarily used by criminal organizations engaged in illicit trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials;

d. legislative experiences, practices, and measures to prevent, combat, and eradicate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials; and

e. techniques, practices, and legislation to combat money laundering related to illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials.

2. States Parties shall provide to and share with each other, as appropriate, relevant scientific and technological information useful to law enforcement, so as to enhance one another's ability to prevent, detect, and investigate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials and prosecute those involved therein.

3. States Parties shall cooperate in the tracing of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials which may have been illicitly manufactured or trafficked. Such cooperation shall include accurate and prompt responses to trace requests.

[doc03]

6. It sets up a system

that would give the government knowledge of who owns what type of firearms. They make a law banning semi-automatic pistols and demand they be turned in, the Sheriff looks at his computer and sees doc03 has one and didn't turn it in, next thing the FBI is knocking down my door.

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. The government , if it had the incentive, could pass a law and do that anytime.

This section pertains to a nations individual laws.

RECALLING that States Parties have their respective domestic laws and regulations in the areas of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials, and recognizing that this Convention does not commit States Parties to enact legislation or regulations pertaining to firearms ownership, possession, or trade of a wholly domestic character, and recognizing that States Parties will apply their respective laws and regulations in a manner consistent with this Convention

[doc03]

8. Go ahead and loose control of Congress again

What are you talking about if the government had the incentive it could pass a law and do that anytime. That could be but if your government does it this is one Democrat that will vote them out next election. Can't you get it through your head that's why you lost control of Congress the last time. What Obama is suggesting is to set up a system to eventually confiscate firearms.