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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:33 PM
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Poll question: When Will You Know That An Economic Recovery Is Underway?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:35 PM
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1. Nobody will know for sure until about six months after it started
It may be underway now. Based on things I have observed like crowds in shopping malls and the housing market I suspect that it is.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:41 PM
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4. We are craft vendors that work the local fall festivals in our michigan area.
Last weekend we were at the Clinton Fall Festival and have been doing that event for the last 8 years.

This year we broke all sales records for the venue and was pleased with the upbeat attitude of the patrons.

There certainly is a different and better mood out there vs. last year.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:39 PM
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2. I got news for y'all.. there won't BE an "economic recovery"
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 12:40 PM by SoCalDem
The ones at the top will still have way more than they need, and the 90% below will always have not quite enough to make it (and live comfortably).

There will be a re-jiggering of the official details, reports will say everything's coming up roses, and after a time, the collective memory will fade, and people will get back to swallowing debt like so much prozac.

and in another 20 years or so we'll have another crash (unless it happens sooner).

the deck chairs are being repainted..almost ready to put out on the Lido Deck..don't mind that sloshing sound as the water fills the lower decks..
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:40 PM
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3. If I can land a job in Dayton. n/t
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:45 PM
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5. When my daughter can find something other than a part-time job. But I also agree with
SoCalDem in that the "recovery" will by more hype than real.

But then, I define recovery as a readjustment in our economy so that the rich do not reap (rape?) the majority of the benefits from the labors of others.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:51 PM
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6. No jobs, no recovery
We don't make anything any more. There can't be a recovery until people can secure good employment with a living wage.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:29 PM
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7.  That's right
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 01:41 PM by blues90
There is no other way around it. Perhaps when the american citizens look at where the items they buy are made and get it into their heads that wait a minute why can't we make this here , make it better so it lasts , pay a little more because it does last and stop looking for the latest item that is obsolete in less than a year.

This is what we used to do and it worked quite well.

How we turn this monster around is the million dollar question , it has grown to the point of right now we have two choices , do without or continue to fail.

We can make clothes and shoes and cars and TV's and computors and furnature here , we did it all before. Make it repairable too not landfill then you have a service industry like we used to have .

Offer on the job training which will at least open up a path for those who cannot afford college , we also used to have that here.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:36 PM
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8. When people accept that they won't be working or working for less.
Because, that's what's happening. The more unemployed looking for work, the cheaper labor becomes. And, there's no "solution" that can bring manufacturing jobs back to America other than lowering labor costs.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:37 PM
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9. When Tinkerbell invades Wall Street with her air force of flying pigs and burning snowballs.
Things are just going to get worse and worse until we implement a single payer health care system and we acknowledge the industrial age of fossil fuels is passing.

Otherwise it's all a demented fairy tale where Economic Recoveries are delusions.
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