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SweepPicker Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:15 PM
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HELP! Stats On Canadian Health Care Needed
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 02:16 PM by SweepPicker
In order to make a few right wing heads explode in a local forum I hang out in, I am in need of some Canadian health stats. If anyone can be of assistance I would greatly appreciate it! There is so much to sift through online I do not know where to start. The main thing is the wait times.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:23 PM
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1. You could try this
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=82-003-XIE&lang=eng#formatdisp

I haven't looked through it, but it's the official source for government peer-reviewed health stats.

It may be very technical and dry reading, I don't know.
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SweepPicker Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:26 PM
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3. I'll Give It a Look See
Thanks.............I'll see if I can make sense of it.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:25 PM
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2. Some..
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:43 PM
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4. This is one interesting comparison.
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 02:46 PM by Altoid_Cyclist
There was a LTTE in the local paper last week that I wanted to post. However, it has vanished from their on-line paper so I'll have to find it and scan it in.

Among other things that he mentioned were these "??facts??";

Doctors in Canada only make $25,000 so of course they don't have any good doctors.

The wait times are so long that they mail out apologies to patients in case they die before getting to see the doctor.

And of course, this person lived in Canada for three years so he knows what he's talking about.

Comparison of US vs Canada pay for selected specialties.
http://student.pnhp.org/content/what_about_physician_salaries.php: :dunce:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:45 PM
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5. yeah, right. that's why there is such an outcry in canada to get rid of their
public health.

what bullshit.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:52 PM
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6. I didn't say that it was an intelligent LTTE,
Or factual, or sane etc.

If this idiot actually lived in Canada, I figure that they must have kicked him out for being a complete waste of oxygen. Of course, maybe that's it; at some point his brain was deprived of oxygen.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:29 PM
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10. i got that you didn't write the letter. i didn't mean you were full of shit
my remarks were toward the idiot who wrote the letter.

sorry if you thought i was referring to you--i wasn't.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:01 AM
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11. Not a problem, I knew that you weren't talking about me.
I was just trying to expound upon my first post since I couldn't think of a way to fully express how stupid or how much of a liar the letter writer really was.
I still can't figure out why the paper doesn't have it on their on-line version unless they realized that it was pure B.S.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:53 PM
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7. OECD has some good informaton.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:59 PM
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8. Zero - the number of Canadian bankruptcies caused largely by medical bills
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 03:01 PM by Bozita
In the good ol' US of A, it's one bankruptcy every seven seconds. Over half of those have med bills as a major factor in the bankruptcy.

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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 03:23 PM
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9. Here's some more...
This is a really good panel discussion from Canadian TV comparing the US and Canadian systems (it is an hour long, though): http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?video?TAWSP_Dbt_20090914_779613_0

On the panel are the head of the Canadian Medical Association, a pro-single payer American professor, and a pro-privatisation Canadian who runs a business that facilitates medical tourism in the US for Canadians.

Good Toronto article with stats:
A puzzled Canadian ponders surreal U.S. health-care debate

Also from a Canadian newspaper:
www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/an-inconvenient-truth-for-the-gop-canadas-system-is-better/article1284869/

The Canadian Health Coalition: http://www.healthcoalition.ca/realitycheck2.html

Stats, links and testimonials from Canadians:
http://rabble.ca/issues/healthcareUSA

Hope some of that helps!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:09 AM
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12. Brand new study just released.
Canadians studying their health care system and how it compares to the rest of the free world. Spoiler: We're dead last.



http://www.conferenceboard.ca/HCP/Details/Health.aspx
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