Dem Party Using Scare Tactics on Us

[DemocracyInaction]

Here's how the game is played (I've watched this since the '60's)----and this time I don't intend to be a "player" in their game:

The Dems come to us for money and support. The Dems get in power, shun us as the lunatic fringe and fuck us. BUT, in the next elections, they will drape their smelly armpits around our shoulder and whisper, "hey, babe, fork over money and vote for us again because YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE GOD AWFUL REPUBLICANS IN POWER AGAIN DO YOU????? This time I intend to smile and reply "All hail, President Palin"!

I won't be played again. The people of this country do not pressure these clowns; therefore, the people can go through years of "eating cake" again under Repuke rule; and maybe finally they will be so puking sick of eating cake that they will fill both chambers with very, very liberal people. In the meantime, there's not a spit difference between too many of these Dems and the Repukes..so what difference does it make?

[ShortnFiery]

1. They can't intimidate me any longer. We are careening toward disaster thanks to the good intentions

of our rabid Blue Dog Democrats. :grr:

[FLAprogressive]

5. good intentions?

[DemocracyInaction]

8. Short---do no harm???

My God, this vote is about to give the Insurance Companies total control over our lives, to rape at will. It would have been better if nothing was done. These sons of bitches are more than being a wee bit conservative. These sons of bitches declared war on 98 percent of this country. It will now be mandatory to be fucked by the insurance companies. Fuck them.

[BlooInBloo]

10. Yah, I'm not sure which good intentions you're referring to either.

[FLAprogressive]

2. Unfortunately you have it all nailed down.

[Blue_In_AK]

3. The Democratic Party is on the path to self-destruction

as surely as the Republican Party is. We need many more choices. This two-party system isn't working.

[SPedigrees]

9. Make it work!! Is your Senator among those voting down the PO? EMAIL!

Tell it to him/her, not to us.

[Le Taz Hot]

15. During the IWR debate, one of my Senators,

Dianne Feinstein, was on CSPAN and stated that her office had taken over 10,000 calls AGAINST the IWR and only 300 FOR the IWR. She voted for it. This is just ONE example of how letters, phone calls, and faxes, fall on deaf ears. These people want your time, money and votes and once you've freely given them all three, you no longer exist to them. Until WE are ready to put up people that truly do have our best interests at heart and unless and until WE are willing to take on the Party Machine when they oppose that candidate, we will continue to suffer with the status quo.

[T Wolf]

16. ONly if you include a blank check in that mail will they listen. About as effective as

"petitioning the lord with prayer."

[stillrockin]

4. sad but true. i'm done.

[SPedigrees]

6. You know what to do. Deluge the nay-saying dem senators with emails, letters and phone calls

if you happen to be one of their constituents. Negative feedback from those who sent them to DC will work like nothing else. For better or worse I can't join in, as both my Vermont Senators (Leahy and Sanders) are for the public option.

[Norwood]

7. Unless a strong health care bill is passed, and I'm sure there wont be

I'm done with it all. What has a Democratic majority in both houses of congress and the presidency gotten us? NOTHING!! The fucking pukes still call the shots, its absolutely pathetic.

Hell maybe I should vote Repuke so they get in power and truly destroy everything in hopes that people will finally rise up and take to the streets. Then again if our country as a whole didn't do that sometime during the 8 years of Bush, theres little hope of that ever ever happening.

[Larkspur]

11. The best medicine is to support primaries against corporatist Dems

Tell them that you're saving your money to donate to their primary opponent. Even if there isn't one this election, there could be in the next election.

[Le Taz Hot]

17. And what do we do when the Party Machine

starves that challenger? I've read several of these "primary them out" calls but if the Machine doesn't approve there will be NO support and, if the challenger gets too close, well they learned what to do about that with Howard Dean, didn't they? Seriously, this is an issue that desperately needs to be addressed.

[Larkspur]

20. The key is a talented challenger who has charisma that can buck the Party machine

or one who can self fund, like Ned Lamont did. Lamont bucked my state's Party machine with his money and with the help of local Democrats and progressives we overcame a 59 pt lead against Lieberman to win the Democratic primary.

[Arugula Latte]

12. When the DSCC comes a' calling next time, I will tell them to go fuck themselves. nt

[Kokonoe]

13. If you change the winner of the primary, we can make it different. OEM

[T Wolf]

14. oooh, you're gonna get whacked for this. But I happen to agree. Fool me once, shame...

Fool me constantly for over 40 years, just go Cheney yourselves.

I also believe that we Americans ONLY respond to crisis conditions.

Ex#1 - Vietnam was not massively resisted until tens of thousands of kids came home in body bags.

Ex#2 - Idiot Son was kept in office even though he turned everything to shit - but not shitty enough to register with enough of "we the people."

Ex#3 - McCain was ahead or close to victory until the economy tanked so severely that Obama got 53% of the vote. That ain't what I would call a landslide.

Present day example - until people are dropping dead in the street (or in front of doctor's offices or hospitals, healthcare reform will not be done in any effective manner.

Why should the politicians change their ways if WE keep sending them back to screw us even more? Of course they won't.

Only by the actual loss of their offices will they maybe get the hint. And even then, they will attribute the loss to something other than reality. They always move "to the middle" which is really far right in the face of electoral losses. They think their victory lies in the great, uneducated, uninformed middle who don't give a damn unless American Idol is pre-empted.

Until the real liberals in the party sit on our hands and help send them to defeat, they will continue to act like repukes.

What they do not realize is that a sizable portion of their base is made up of people who have succeeded to a level of comfort where we can afford to back off until they become real Democrats. There are many people who are suffering because of their actions (or lack of). But there are also manyof us who have the luxury of telling them to "fuck off."

True - we are leaving our children with a fucked-up nation. But I don't see where getting "played" every two and four years has gotten us any farther than dropping out completely (politically).

[dajoki]

18. I made up my mind...

to no longer support the Dem candidates blindly. If there is no primary battle I will vote for a third party candidate or just not vote for the Dems who are nothing but paid schills.

[Chulanowa]

19. It's time to get in some faces

Women's rights were not won with angry letters. Civil rights were not won with perturbed phone calls. health rights willnot be won with snippy E-mails.

[madokie]

21. All I can say then is go on back to the republiCON party

that you've never left. The :puke: like you...

[KharmaTrain]

22. So Many Want A Carbon Copy Of The Rushpublicans

I've also seen how the game is played since the 60's...and how opting out allowed the rushpublicans to seize the media and the message in the 80s that led to many of the messes we confront today. We saw Democrats play their own purity games...or just tuning out altogether that enabled the Gingriches and Roves to turn our political system into a bloodsport and a game of gotcha or instant gratification.

I see plenty of Democrats who deserve support next year...lest we allow a rushpublican "revival" that will make getting anything passed or done even worse. Are there Democrats who I disagree with or supported in the past and have second thoughts? Plenty. But what's the alternative? Run off and wish a pox on all houses and lose whatever gains many of us have worked hard over recent years to make happen?

Change isn't an all or nothing game...it's a progression and it requires a view of the bigger picture, not the flavor of the moment. Democrats have gained control by reaching out to many people and creating a broad coalition. Some of those in the coalition represent conservative areas or have their own agendas. We can work to elect better Democrats in those areas but I don't think anyone would want a party that is lock-step and closed to debate or dissent. Inversely, those who want to take their ball and go home do so at the risk of being totally outside.