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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:01 PM
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Encouraging article from Robert Creamer on Viability of Public Option
In a surprising vote Tuesday, ten Democrats voted to add a public option to the most conservative of the five health insurance reform bills working their way through Congress. That's just two votes short of passage.
This robust support for the public option -- in what most observers consider the most conservative committee in the Senate -- signals a sea change in Congressional opinion toward the public option. The odds are now very high that some form of public health insurance option will be included on the final bill when it emerges from a House-Senate Conference Committee later this fall and is ultimately passed by Congress.
The three bills that have passed House Committees, and the Senate Health Committee bill, all contain a public option. And increasingly it appears that the strongest form of public option will come out of the House. <snip>


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/growing-momentum-for-publ_b_303415.html





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/growing-momentum-for-publ_b_303415.html
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:03 PM
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1. No! Stop!...
...I want my freak-out! Don't post sh*t like this!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:11 PM
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2. ROFL!! nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:41 PM
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9. DAMN i'm good.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:16 PM
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3. How DARE you spoil my narrative
nt
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:26 PM
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4. thank you
i've been feeling discouraged. will go and read now.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:30 PM
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5. The main danger
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 06:31 PM by PATRICK
seems to have passed as a reversal of the Clinton fiasco. I think Clinton advisers had a big hand in gaming this to let the public option stew in the political climate and expose the nasties for what and who they are- without cover or a viable scapegoat except the biggest contradictory lies against the life and welfare of EVERY American citizen. It might have been better had we had any of these three things: a fair and robust representation in the government, a fair and professional public news media, and active and vociferous population reaction in the streets on behalf of the big stuff. As for the latter, I really think and no insult to the heroic groups of good citizens attempting to demonstrate the public will as it IS or could be in five fair minutes of truth, I think we have been judged along with the rest as insufficient to the task of pressuring for health care reform.

Time, however, is on the side of a spreading truth not a brushfire lie and the slow still quiet pressure of the majority against highly exposed sellouts- murderers de facto, has doomed a lot of their efforts that have PRECEDED the actual bill and fallen into Obama's bill vacuum instead and indeed lopped off most of the compromises that would have given them salvageable victories for the insurance companies and Big Pharma.

One problem I have- which is an advantage to the health care complex finally bowing to some real reform- is that the same Clinton advisers and Obama mindset prefers leaving the insurance industry fairly intact for some time(hopefully to naturally meet their own demise and wither away to supplemental niches). The second problem is that this move was risky(putting all that hope in the people putting SOME kind of pressure on their misbegotten representatives) and a shameful statement on the current state of America. There is something in this, even if we get what is rational and necessary for our SURVIVAL, to make everyone(including Obama) look deservedly bad- and so far almost everyone has except for the heretofore lonely and stifled, single payer crowd.

In the end, idiot career pols, it is the immense political benefit that will be the Dem legacy if ever the act comes together. Then maybe they may get another big awakening regarding campaign finance, real(not Corporate Pravda) news forums and voting machines. Meanwhile people die and the clock ticks for thee.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:35 PM
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7. Nicely written nt
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:31 PM
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6. Not to rain on anyone's poutrages
This just posted kind of encourages me, too. Why would Hatch be calling for the rule to be 70 votes to pass health care reform unless her were worried we've got the 60?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6658345
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:39 PM
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8. creamer knows his stuff.
local fellow. very good.
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