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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:38 PM
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Poll question: Would You Support Military Action on Iran if Evidence Shows a Nuclear Weapon Program?
Just want to get the pulse of DU. Sometimes a make false assumptions.


If evidence is produced that Iran's recently revealed nuclear program is working to produce nuclear weapons, would you support a military action?

If it is confirmed, they aren't forthright with inspectors, would you then?

For the sake of discussion, military action could be defined as from the US or from Israel, without US stopping it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:40 PM
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1. I'll consider it as soon as all of Glenn Greenwald's concerns are adequately addressed.
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:41 PM
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2. Hell no
Until they have used a weapon or actually attacked someone, there is no reason to be even be thinking about military action.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:42 PM
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3. I agree, but the murmurs have re-ignited.
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Kid Dynamite Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:44 PM
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4. Would You Support Military Action on the United States
if Evidence Shows A Nuclear Weapons Program?

What if there was evidence of actually USING such weapons?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:44 PM
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5. If this makes any sense, then Israel should be attacked before Iran...
right after the US, Russia, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan...

Nuclear weapons can never be justified.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:55 PM
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17. It's a practical matter: Realpolitik.
Realpolitik (German: real “realistic”, “practical” or “actual”; and Politik “politics”) refers to politics or diplomacy based primarily on practical considerations, rather than ideological notions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

You're logic is correct but obviously the "wise" people who run this world won't even consider it.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:28 PM
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20. Nuclear war is practical?
Realpolitik, always a misnomer, always flawed, surely became irretrievably obsolete on August 6, 1945. Unfortunately many have not learned the lesson, and every possible stupidity and atrocity since has been justified on realistic or pragmatic grounds.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:45 PM
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6. Military action with what?
Are we going to drop clunker cars on them?

Iran and China are bff's. I find it hard to believe they'd foot the bill for such an attack.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:47 PM
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7. Tell me, will we be using nuclear equipped bunker busters to
accomplish this most urgent task??
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:47 PM
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8. Evidence? Like artists renditions presented by a respected retired General?
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:25 PM
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30. Especially one who currenly holds a cabinet level position...
...if he shows up at the UN with a vial of uranium.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:47 PM
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9. Frankly, I'd breathe easier if Iran had a nuclear bomb. I think it would have
wonderfully sobering effect on the rest of the world in regard to Middle East policy.

I'd prefer a no nukes world, but given current conditions, I'll gladly settle for a Middle Eastern version of MAD.

sw

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:49 PM
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14. That is an interesting point.
It's not as if Israel isn't equipped with nuclear weapons, after all.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:55 PM
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16. I've been saying the same thing for the last several years.
I honestly think we'd all be better off if Iran had nukes.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:19 AM
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39. Who can blame them for wanting nukes? They are totally surrounded by nuclear powers
China, Russia, India, Pakistan and Israel.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:47 PM
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10. I'm not going to war against a country for doing the same thing countries ,we
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 07:48 PM by orpupilofnature57
defend do ,and both have the same reasons ,to defense against each other.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:48 PM
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11. I like this poll.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:49 PM
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12. I support staying out of it militarily and that includes not attacking countries that attack Iran
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:49 PM
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13. I really don't care if Iran has nukes
Might give Israel a much needed attitude adjustment,
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:50 PM
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15. Evidence for WMDs has been pretty spotty lately. nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:00 PM
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18. Israel will fire the first shots and expect the US to come in as
an allie to back them up.

Russia, France and England are now onboard this will not be a US go it alone effort.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:30 PM
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22. The Russians are a SCO member.
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:31 PM by roamer65
They will not back military actions against Iran. Beijing will not allow it. The Russians are in the hip pocket of the Chinese.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:36 PM
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23. But the crux of the statement was Israel expecting U.S. to back them..And that's True.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:18 PM
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36. That's what really sucks about it, we get pulled into Israel's bullshit . n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:18 AM
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42. I just hope it doesn't come to that.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:06 PM
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19. Hell no.
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:07 PM by harun
Even if they have them they can't use them. Just like everyone else who has them, it is called mutually assured destruction.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:28 PM
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21. Would you kill 100,000s of innocents....

if former oil company executives who happen to be running the country start making noises about "mushroom clouds on the horizon"? I would hope we learned our lesson.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:38 PM
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24. No. Why?
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:39 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
Unless a foreign country (we don't like) HAVING a nuclear weapons program is now justification enough to attack them (or allow them to be attacked by an *ally*). I sincerely hope it isn't. I suppose that my answer would be different if said country was actually THREATENING to ATTACK another country but that's a whole other ball of wax.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:38 PM
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25. Fuck no n/t
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:40 PM
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26. A lot of things have been "confirmed" in the past.
These things were lies. If the entire international community believed that was the case, AND would send substantial forces for the entire duration of the war, I MIGHT support it.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:42 PM
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27. No, because I think there must be evidence of a preeminent attack on another country...
I'm not crazy about Iran having nukes. It's a theocratic nation who hates Israel and hangs people for being gay. Having said that, there is nothing, IMO, that says they are planning on attacking anyone. No reason for military action as far as I'm concerned.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:57 AM
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48. True, they would not attack Israel, since Israel have nukes
The right might try to sell us on the idea that Iran is suicidal as a nation and might attack Israel and be willing to go down for it. But that's out there, even for Iran.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:43 PM
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28. I hope there would be a few more intermediary steps first.
Nobody's really done much diplomacy with Iran.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:15 PM
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29. Hells no
Why the fuck do we Americans get to decide who had nuclear weapons when we already have enough of them to blow up the world multiple times? I guess we're just afraid of a fair fight.

If America wants other nations to stop acquiring nukes, it should stop acting like an asshole around the world. Other nations see our military power and realize that the only way they'll be truly safe is if they have nukes too.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:01 PM
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31. Never.
Ask Scott Ritter. Again.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:02 PM
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32. Confirmed like Iraq's WMD?
Um, no.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:03 PM
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33. No.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:06 PM
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34. Only if all other options have failed.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:12 PM
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35. US, UK, China, Russia, France, Germany, India, Pakistan, Israel ...
And we're worried about Iran having it, too?

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HappyCynic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:20 PM
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37. If that's the bar...
If that's the bar to measure military intervention, why isn't the talk about North Korea? Is it:
A) North Korea *actually has* a nuke?
B) North Korea has no oil?
C) Israel doesn't care about North Korea?
D) Some or all of the above?
E) Something other than the above?

All this talk about Iran (which is, on this issue, actually in compliance with the various treaties they've signed) makes the US appear very hypocritical.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:23 PM
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38. The answer is D.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:35 AM
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40. Other
I do not support military action, period. It is time we tested what a unified international front can do diplomatically. As best as I can tell, this sort of approach has never been truly tried.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:40 AM
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41. I still have yet to hear a cohesive answer of why it is OKAY for us to possess nuclear weapons
yet our panties get in a wad over anyone else.
And yes, I don't give ten flying fucks about Israel, yet I am not anti-Semetic. I am apathetic.
If they want to fight Iran--let them. Let them waste their fucking blood and treasure, not ours.
I don't support it. I won't support it. I can't support it.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:28 AM
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43. raining RW (tr)polls these days
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:31 AM
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44. Yes, only if they think of selling any weapons to anyone.
Then all bets are off.

The Persians still have dreams of being at least a regional power with hegemony over their Arab neighbors, who don't exactly love them.
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:51 AM
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45. Nope, and I'm sick of the double standards in play.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:55 AM
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46. Once they have it, they join the club
We only attack countries without nukes. If the country has nukes, they could retaliate.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:56 AM
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47. Hell no
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:17 AM
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49. I don't think the problem is with Iran having the bomb,...
...it's with Iran giving the bomb to someone else.

If they attack a country with a nuke, they'll be toast.

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