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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:34 AM
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Mysterious, unregistered security firm policing Montana town
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 09:50 AM by debbierlus
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/mysterious-unregistered-security-firm-policing-montana-town/

There are two stories on the link above - this is the second story scrolled halfway down the page. It is worth reading the whole thing. Apparently, this unknown private security company has been hired to fill the empty 27 million dollar jail. It is really frightening article.

The Two Rivers Detention Center was promoted as the largest economic development project in decades in the small town of Hardin when the jail was built two years ago. But it has been vacant ever since.

City officials have searched from Vermont to Alaska for inmate contracts to fill the jail, only to be turned down at every turn and see the bonds that financed its construction fall into default. They even floated the idea of housing prisoners from Guantanamo Bay at the jail.

So when Hardin officials announced this week that they had signed a deal with a California company to fill the empty jail, it was naturally a cause for celebration. Town officials talked about throwing a party to mark the occasion, their dreams of economic salvation a step closer to being realized.

But questions are emerging over the legitimacy of the company, American Police Force.

Government contract databases show no record of the company. Security industry representatives and federal officials said they had never heard of it. On its Web site, the company lists as its headquarters a building in Washington near the White House that holds "virtual offices." A spokeswoman for the building said American Police Force never completed its application to use the address.

And it's unclear where the company will get the inmates for the jail. Montana says it's not sending inmates to the jail, and neither are federal officials in the state.

An attorney for American Police Force, Maziar Mafi, describes the Santa Ana, Calif., company as a fledgling spin-off of a major security firm founded in 1984. But Mafi declined to name the parent firm or provide details on how the company will finance its jail operations.

"It will gradually be more clear as things go along," said Mafi, a personal injury and medical malpractice lawyer in Santa Ana who was only hired by American Police Force a month ago. "The nature of this entity is private security and for security purposes, as well as for the interest of their clientele, that's why they prefer not to be upfront."

On its elaborate Web site and in interviews with company representatives, American Police Force claims to sell assault rifles and other weapons in Afghanistan on behalf of the U.S. military while providing security, investigative work and other services to clients "in all 50 states and most countries."

The company also boasts to have "rapid response units awaiting our orders worldwide" and that it can field a battalion-sized team of special forces soldiers "within 72 hours."

Representatives of American Police Force said the company presently employs at least 16 and as many as 28 people in the United States and 1,600 contractors worldwide.

"APF plays a critical role in helping the U.S. government meet vital homeland security and national defense needs," the company says on its Web site. "Within the last 5 years the United States has been far and away our" number 1 client.

However, an Associated Press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of American Police Force.

Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of American Police Force, although they added secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight.

"They're really invisible," said Alan Chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the Professional Services Council. The group's members include major security contractors Triple Canopy, DynCorp and Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide.

"Even a single unclassified contract in the last couple of years should show up" in the federal database, Chvotkin added.

Spokesmen for the State Department and Defense Department said they could not immediately find any records of contracts with the company. The city has not released a copy of its agreement with American Police Force. But the deal as announced would be a sweet one for Hardin, a depressed rural town of 3,500 about 45 miles east of Billings.

The company is pledging to fill the 464-bed facility by early next year.

Hardin officials say the first payment on the contract is due Feb. 1 — regardless of whether any prisoners are in place. The city's economic development authority would get enough money to pay off the bondholders and receive $5 per prison a day.

American Police Force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. The company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy.

Where the prisoners would come from is unclear. City officials said California was the most likely possibility, but a spokesman for that state's corrections system said there was no truth to the claim.

Federal prisoners also were mentioned by both American Police Force and the city. U.S. Marshal Dwight MacKay in Billings said he would have been notified if such a plan was pending.

"There's skepticism over whether this is a real thing," MacKay said.

Hardin officials said they were approached by American Police Force about six months ago, soon after the city made international news in its quest to become "America's Gitmo." American Police Force incorporated around the same time.

Albert Peterson, the city's school superintendent and vice president of the authority that built the jail, said the city was "guaranteed" the contract would be upheld.


..............................More at link....http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/mysterious-unregistered-security-firm-policing-montana-town/
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:36 AM
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1. Astounding. n/t
PB
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:12 AM
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11. I'll say!
Has anyone there even asked if this is legal?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:37 AM
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2. No private organization has any goddamned business putting anybody in jail.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:49 AM
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7. It is frightening. And, it is what happens in a corporate fascist state...



It is solely about making money. People are not human beings. They are pawns in a game to increase the wealth for those who control the board. And, if the powers that be can do that by incarcerating poor people through a failed war on drugs, privatize the public school system to the detriment of the education of our children, allow the health 'care' industry to run the American health care system like some sick Mafia enterprise, they will.


It is sick. It is wrong. And, it has to stop.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:10 AM
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10. This is very disturbing.

This country is in a very dangerous place.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:15 AM
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13. Yet another story that makes me ask "where is the investigative reporting?"
The sort of thing that would have been a career-ending scandal 30 years ago. Now it's becoming business as usual.

:shrug:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:20 AM
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14. They are still covering the former governor of Alaska
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:31 AM
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30. and Roman Polanski
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subcomhd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:22 PM
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52. who?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:09 PM
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60. Are they hired to put people in jail, or to fill the jail with transfers from other jails?
That's not clear to me.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:36 PM
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63. Wish I could recommend just a post.

You couldn't be more right.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:34 PM
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67. Are they into money-laundering ? How do they balance their books ?
If it's one of these new CIA spinoff companies they'll have to kill us all before they could tell us...national security, of course.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:41 AM
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3. Interesting, maybe Gitmo America
:wtf: They have to put them someplace.:shrug:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:00 AM
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8. Actually, if they used it to close Gitmo and transfer inmates onto American soil

where they could be ethically detained, tried, or released..it wouldn't be such a bad idea. I am all for closing Gitmo.

Trying to fill it by hiring a bunch of mercenary thugs, that is unconstitutional and disgusting.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:43 AM
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4. Headquartered in Nigeria.
Want to help me transfer some Gold?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:02 AM
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9. Yup.
Seems likely a scam. A good one, for sure.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:37 AM
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17. Same thing I thought.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM by redqueen
American Police Force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. The company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy.


Really?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:10 PM
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61. The irrational fear of bringing Al Qaeda detainees to the homeland...

because they might become a threat...watch this fear become a reality under the supervision of shady security firms.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:43 AM
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5. Very odd indeed...K&R
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:47 AM
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6. Discussed here also:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:14 AM
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12. Creepy. Thanks for the heads-up
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:28 AM
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15. the Libertarian Dream. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:37 AM
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16. Still trying to figure out how and why they built a massive jail, if they
didn't have a solid plan for it. These townfolk clearly are dumb as a box of hammers.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM
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18. links to site are working its creepy..........
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:43 AM
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20. The "Mission Statement;"
OUR MISSION: Maintaining our well deserved professional reputation as a results oriented full service private investigative agency(?) by way of commitment, diligence, unique resources, creativity, and tenacity on behalf of our clients.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:37 PM
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79. Wow
I had a professor in college who called writing like that "Snowballing"! A whole bunch of words put together but without meaning.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:45 PM
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55. I get a 503 error, service temp. unavailable.
:shrug:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:37 PM
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68. What is this...a crotch shot of some guy in a ninja outfit loaded for bear ?
Not really very 'professional' or reassuring for that matter. And the model should take the socks out of his package !
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 08:35 AM
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83. the photo's of the black clothed and masked(!) soldiers with high powered sidearms
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 08:39 AM by BREMPRO
and helicopters is even more creepy and frightening. These guys are going to investigate your cheating spouse? WTF. I don't want APF (ie Blackwater) anywhere near American soil. Congress has the power to investigate and disband their corporate charter and should do so for murdering innocent civilians and defrauding the taxpayers.

SO if they can't fill the jail with prisoners from other states like CA, Where exactly are they going to get the prisoners to fill this facility? It was likely built to get contracts from other states to solve prison overcrowding. Now that CA is releasing prisoners (40,000) because of their budget crisis- that plan goes down the tubes. When we have cities and states investing in prisons as ways to make addition revenue from other states prisoners, we've crossed the line into insanity. We have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of it's prisoners. Think about that...1 out of every 4 persons incarcerated in the WORLD, including china, the middle east, burma, etc... is American. Roughly 1 out of every 30 American males is in prison. The prison industrial complex and the failed drug war need to be revisited.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:00 AM
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85. " efficient at meeting our objectives" in other words:collateral damage of civilians..
using indiscriminate deadly force and poor judgment is tolerated to meet our security objective efficiently.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:41 AM
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19. Granted I haven't researched this, but is this possibly one of Halliburton's infamous new DCers?
As in the Detention Centers they received contracts to build some yrs back? It all seems below the radar.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:44 AM
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21. if you read any comments on local news boards, it's Obama's Nazi army taking over its first town
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:45 AM by kid a
But its just an incorporated militia...the RWs wet dream.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:47 AM
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24. Wouldn't most of the town, including its leaders, be...Republicans?
I lived in western SD, that region is pure GOPersville.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:52 AM
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26. Hardin is about 40% Native American - Big Horn County is 60% Native American
This is the small town just a few miles from the Little Big Horn battlefield.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:56 AM
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27. OK, but the folks who built the jail and are making the deals--
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:57 AM by TwilightGardener
are they Native American (I'm guessing Lakota?)? Are they Repubs? Democrats? edit to add: demographics count here, because I'm wondering if this isn't AFP taking advantage of a desperately poor Indian population.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:01 AM
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28. Its the AFP (or whoever!!)taking advantage of a HUGE MONEY PIT that has gotten a few business people
into deep financial trouble
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:18 PM
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47. Who ever it is, it is not Native Americans doing this.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:18 PM
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46. And just so you know..it is NOT native americans that run the city.
The last time natives tried to stand up and have a say in how their communities were run...we had wounded knee. (yes I know, not the same place)..still...most natives keep a low profile in order to survive.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:45 AM
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22. first employee hired........
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:46 AM
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23. i know her well (i live in Billings) she did it for the money...GOOD money
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:44 PM
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50. Disgusting way to earn a living
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 08:54 AM
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84. she has no idea what she's gotten herself into as PR for APF
that $60,000 and a company car is going to look pretty paultry when she has the national media, congress, and every liberal activist group in her face asking her about blackwater. From looking at the interview, she's way out of her league. "i feel pretty good about myself"! OMG, just wait a few months and you are going to feel overwhelmed by the onslaught of criticism representing and defending the devil!

I give her 8 weeks before she resigns from the pressure.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 12:20 PM
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87. 0mg- the station yanked the link! it also had a link to a video that reported the CEO was a crook
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 12:25 PM by BREMPRO
that he has over a million dollars in judgments against him for fraud, prison time etc.

"According to the Associated Press, court documents show that Hilton (APF CEO) has $1.1 million dollars worth of outstanding judgments against him. Records indicate Hilton has multiple aliases, and has twice declared bankruptcy.

Fraud cases include luring investors into a fake real estate development project, convincing a couple to give him a silver statue worth $100,000 dollars, and pocketing construction funds.

Hilton landed a six year prison term in 1993 for a dozen counts of grand theft among other charges.

A California doctor who said he was conned by Hilton said he was stunned to learn Hilton was planning a major venture in Montana.

"I didn't even sleep last night because of the memories that it conjured up, he's the reason I had to go bankrupt. I lost my practice, I had some mental issues because of this. He was using up other people's money, mainly mine, and other people, like a Ponzi scheme."

Calls to new APF Spokewoman Becky Shay, Two Rivers Authority Vice President Al Peterson, and Hardin Mayor Ron Adams were not returned"


http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/63026202.html

Blackwater is a christo-fascist organization that is run by criminals and needs to be defunded. Forget Acorn- defund these dangerous criminals.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:50 AM
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25. I did some research on this and posted about it in another thread.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:19 PM
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48. Another observation. That two guys with guns posing, is from Counterstrike
The online terrorist game. It would be fitting, if the town stayed hush, to create buzz, for the upcoming movie. Better than GI Joe. Otherwise, I am moving on that corp. soon.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:34 PM
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49. I suspected that it was some kind of movie marketing campaign
but it appears that these people have been involved with defense contracting since at least 2003, and probably earlier. They have at least several of what are apparently shell defense companies. Read my posts in that thread. The whole thing is weird.

One of their companies is Defense Consulting Group, INC. and they posted a message looking for cargo loaders for the C-130 back in 2003 here: http://worldaerodata.com/mb/msg/802.html

The use of the graphic from Counterstrike may simply be a case of two companies using the same stock photo.

I won't totally 100% rule out the movie marketing angle but, if that's what it is, then they've gone way above and beyond what was needed. I think maybe someone is scamming someone (possibly the DOD) with multiple shell defense contractors.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:18 PM
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57. Interesting theory. Much more digging needs to be done.

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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:14 PM
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62. Any Federal contract
they may have was not awarded according to the Federal Acquisition Regulations. The company is not listed in the Central Contractor Registration; any company doing work for the Federal government is required to be registered at that site.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:10 PM
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73. Do you have a link to that Central Contractor Registration? n/t
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:21 PM
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51. Wonder if it's a copyright violation?
They put "Hardin Police Dept" on their SUV's without authorization.
If they're going to illegally impersonate police, they wouldn't sneeze at lifting some copyrighted images.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:50 PM
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81. It's not from Counterstrike - it's from "The Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons" by Jack Lewis
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:52 PM by bananas
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0896894983


edit to add: photo of two guys with guns posing on the APF website:


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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:46 PM
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88. That's probably a purchased stock photo then, not their own employees? (n/t)
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:16 AM
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29. K&R for one of the more important stories today. n/t
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:50 AM
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31. Montana jail deal raises questions: Shadowy company to bring in inmates
LINK


We need to find out what this is about, and quickly.





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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:16 PM
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34. According to the story, no one knows WHERE these inmates will come from...


THAT is frightening.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:52 AM
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32. And why is "American Police Force"'s most prominent symbol the Serbian coat of arms?
See their website:
http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/
(especially the slideshow up top)

and compare:


http://flagspot.net/flags/rs.html#coa

The design of the lesser coat of arms
Article 12.
The lesser coat of arms a red shield in which is, placed, between two golden fleurs-de-lis in its base, set a two-headed silver eagle, armed golden and with the tongue and legs of the same, with a red shield on its chests in which is a silver cross between four firesteels of the same with their bases turned towards the vertical beam of the cross. The shield is crowned with a golden crown.

The heraldic description of the lesser coat of arms of Serbia is:
"Gules, two fleurs-de-lis or below a double-headed eagle argent, beaked, membered and langued or, bearing an escutcheon: gules, a cross argent between four firesteels or addorsed. Crowned with a royal crown proper".


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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:06 PM
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33. There website is like a video game with the drums and the pathetic 'patriotic' music

Who the hell are these people?

And, what authority do they have to perform any of their 'services'?

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:21 PM
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39. From the same people that brought you Sebrenica
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 01:21 PM by formercia




The freepers think UN troops are bad. And we think Blackwater is bad.......
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:20 PM
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35. shows how far this country has fallen when a jail is promoted as a 'economic development project'
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:12 PM
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42. WATCH OUT POT SMOKERS!!!
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evenso Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:39 PM
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36. Contact the American Police Force Group at....
http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/contact_american_police_force.html

and ask them why their logo resembles the Serbian coat of arms...
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:59 PM
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37. Not "resembles" ... it **IS** the Serbian coat of arms.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 01:00 PM by JHB
"lesser" version, to be specific.
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evenso Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:01 PM
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38. nice quote!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:43 PM
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40. When Blackwater just isn't mean enough.
Hire a bunch of Serbian Paramilitaries to crack skulls.


"We kill just for the fun of it"
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:11 PM
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41. They'll even spy on your cheatin' spouse according to their website
...under their list of services "check your mate"
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:14 PM
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43. Their 'Mission' statement:
OUR MISSION: Maintaining our well deserved professional reputation as a results oriented full service private investigative agency(?) by way of commitment, diligence, unique resources, creativity, and tenacity on behalf of our clients.

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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:15 PM
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44. Heard the name, but not the details.
Surreal shit.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 02:15 PM
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45. This is simply outrageous if not Treason...
And any city that wants be the "the new American Gitmo" deserves to go bankrupt...to hell with them.
Have they no decency?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:25 PM
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53. They will fill it with immigrants who are model prisoners and have no rights.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:47 PM
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56. Quite possibly. It is really disturbing that the town's people are 'split'

...because they need something for economic stimulus to their local economy, so some are okay with it.

This county is quickly falling into third world status.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:33 PM
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78. so they put all their money into a prison? Strange the Supt. of Schools is cheering it..
on too.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:31 PM
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54. Isn't privatization of public funds miraculous?
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 04:32 PM by SoCalDem
Jails/prisons need to be LOCALLY "owned-operated", and used for their OWN criminals. By keeping it all in-community, it makes it all real. Prisoners with local roots, can maintain some contact with families & friends, making it easier for them to re-integrate when they are released. Locals who work there have connections to the community and to the prisoners.

Privatizing it and shipping in out-of-area "stock" makes it so much easier to "sanitize' the whole thing, and for the community to detach from their own crime problems. Makes it all like a feedlot..full of cattle shipped in from all over..

Crime as a commodity is not something we should aspire to..
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:19 PM
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58. ahem...cough...
http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/special.html

Our extensive tactical firearms training facility, the U.S. Training Center is capable of providing a wide range of instruction and training for all types of law enforcement organizations. From basic firearms training to complex SWAT tactics our corps of instructors can meet all your training requirements.

http://www.ustraining.com/new/index.asp

http://www.ustraining.com/new/Moyock/index.asp

The Google - US Training Center

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:11 PM
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64. Jesus Christ - IT IS BLACKWATER - WTF?

Thanks SO MUCH...

I went to yahoo & typed in US Training Center & Blackwater & this was the result -

Contact page for Blackwater.
US Training Center. PO Box 1029. Moyock, NC 27958. Xe Services, LLC. Moyock, NC ... US Training Center North. PO Box 33. Mount Carroll, IL 61053. E-Mail Directory ...
www.blackwaterusa.com/contact_us.html - Cached

Go to the link:

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/contact_us.html and you will go directly to the US Training Center site that you provided in your post(with no mention of Blackwater on the actual contact page)

Wow.

So, Blackwater has been hired to fill the prison. Hmmmm. I think I will write Rachel Maddow.

THANKS!
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:54 PM
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71. I know!
Those FUCKS!
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:11 PM
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77. Exactly. Very nice catch!
This should be a new thread.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:41 PM
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59. Sen. Baucus' behavior is criminal. He can be inmate 1. nt
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BrainGlutton Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:32 PM
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65. The most disturbing part of this story is its beginning . . .
. . . the government of an economically depressed town counting on incarceration as a growth industy. Is this what America has come to?!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:38 PM
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80. Just as the medical industry is a sizable portion of the American
economy. Something is terribly wrong in our country.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:33 PM
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66. Quasi-public enterprises, who don't show their books ? WhiskyTangoFoxtrot !
A private company, hired to do a public service, but who won't show their books/records is just an end-run form of fascism IMHO. Nice technicalities but no one in their right minds would go for this lack of accountability or oversight.

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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:37 PM
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69. SPECULATION PLEASE!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:45 PM
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70. It IS Blackwater - here are the connected dots!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:56 PM
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72. UPDATE :The 'Mysterious' Firm Policing Montana & hired to fill its empty jail is BLACKWATER
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:15 PM
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74. no wonder the loonies talk about a private army its Blackwater....
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:26 PM
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76. It would be nice to find out who is responsible for setting up this operation
and when the contracts were signed. I'll bet it's something the bush admin slid in before the clock ran out. The Feds need to check this out before something awful happens up there.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:23 PM
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75. Holy shit! (seriously, WTF?!!) n/t
PB
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:46 PM
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82. If you build it (incarceration centers), they will come (prisoners).
First they build them, then they fill them.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:38 AM
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86. I think thats the problem they didn't build it right according to code.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 06:18 PM
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89. Use it exclusively as a detention center for Bush administration criminals
Though even with 2,000 beds it probably couldn't hold all of them.
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