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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:42 AM
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No Health Care for Anyone in Congress until The American People get Health Care Reform
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 09:44 AM by Melissa G
NOT Health Insurance Reform, but Health CARE Reform. That might motivate them. Let them live the hell they are inflicting on the majority of families and then maybe we might get results. Probably not, because they can just afford to buy expensive coverage or maybe have lobbyists find ways to provide it. But maybe, just maybe, enough of them might have to read some policies and see how bad those policies the rest of us have really are. Medicare for everyone now.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:53 AM
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1. Yes, it's always irked me that a bunch of folks with first-rate insurance
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 09:53 AM by ixion
paid for by you and me, are deciding whether we are worthy enough to be allowed the same, or a facsimile thereof.

I think We, the People should determine how much Congress gets paid (if anything) and what benefits they get.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:59 AM
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4. They never fail to vote themselves paid increases. Yearly, even while loading up on lobbyist $$$.
Nice! x(
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601Liberal Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:26 PM
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17. And yet, some of them vote against the minimum wage
Sometimes Congress gets way too comfortable to understand what the average Joe goes through.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:54 AM
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2. Any family who God forbid loses a loved one durring this debate
should call their Congress critter and ask them to attend the wake...
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:32 AM
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8. Excellent idea. Send Congress funeral invites for all those that die because of their dithering.
A website devoted to this could be a welcome idea. Hey Moveon and others, here is a project!
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:27 PM
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23. I am in the process of doing just that...here is small portion...


My daughter is in the hospital right now fighting for her life..I an contacting all Democrats in Congress....



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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:35 PM
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26. Prayers for your daughter. I hope those Congress critters hear you and respond.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:04 PM
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29. Melissa, Thanks for the prayers..
They did another Cat Scan this morning, I don't have the results yet...I couldn't get an e-mail to Congressman Tanners office so I called his local office..By the time I was finished I was in tears...
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 08:11 PM
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31. ((((((((Tippy))))))))
(((((Tippy's daughter))))))) :grouphug:
Love and Light,:hug:
Melissa
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:59 AM
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3. stupid, stupid, stupid- though I wish I had a dime for each time this stupid
fantasy was posted. there is NO FUCKING WAY TO TAKE AWAY CONGRESS CRITTERS' HEALTHCARE.

NONE.

ZIPPO.

NADA
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:36 AM
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9. You don't actually have to take it away for the idea to be effective.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:57 AM by Melissa G
How many times are we currently manipulated by ideas the are just being discussed? If we all start discussing it, it becomes it's own reality. We can have a campaign to ask Congress to voluntarily give up their health care until this is solved and if not, why won't they? Important questions can have a life of their own.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:06 PM
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25. +1
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:02 AM
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5. Absolutely agree! nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:10 AM
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6. That gets my vote!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:11 AM
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7. I'm sick of millionaires on TV and Congresscritters with LIFETIME govt.-sponsored HC running this.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM
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11. exactly n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM
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10. Now that's something I could be down with!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:38 AM
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12. what an ignorant statement.
you DO realize that such a motion would have to be passed by congress in order to be implemented, right...? :shrug:
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:45 AM
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13. Nope. We could ask Congress to do it as a voluntary response to a crisis.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 10:51 AM by Melissa G
Look at at the figures of how many families have to declare bankruptcy because of our lack of health care reform and tell me we are not in a crisis. Look at America compared to the rest of the industrialized nations. It's an important question that bears asking. If Congress will not do this, why not? Here are questions that ought to be asked at town halls. They are asking the American people to live without health care reform, WHY can't they?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:02 AM
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14. knock yourself out...
:eyes:

and do you honestly believe that the corporate controlled media will be of any assistance in publicizing such a crusade?

it's kind of mind-boggling, how many deluded people there are here who actually think that it's a viable course of action.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:03 AM
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15. Yeah, we could not have a Black President yet, either. n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:23 PM
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16. like i said- knock yourself out...
:eyes:
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:53 PM
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20. My Message to Harry Reid on FDL"s request to call out the Dems who would filibuster with R's
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 01:37 PM by Melissa G
"I wish Congress would voluntarily give up their health care until they give the American People the Health Care reform our country needs. And I mean Health Care reform NOT Health Insurance reform."

I get a bunch of these requests from all sorts of sources and that is my current refrain. There are a lot of responses to this insanity. No single one will likely be enough, but drip drip drip may do the trick.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:26 PM
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18. I would venture to say a majority are probably on Medicare
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:28 PM
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19. This is what needs to be done.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:54 PM
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21. praytell, how would you accomplish this legally?
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 01:46 PM
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22. We may or may not accomplish this, but we sure could ask for it.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 02:13 PM by Melissa G
Asking Congress to justify why they get health care, while they deny it to their constituents seems a reasonable question to me. Asking Congress if they will fore go their Health Care until they provide it to the American people also seems like a reasonable question to me. When you have the moral high ground, you don't always need the legal high ground.

edit for PS.
It also would make good political theater if we could get 10 reps or so to sign on to this. I bet Kucinich would do it.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 05:05 PM
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24. Like they care
These people, especially in the Senate, are already rich.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:41 PM
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27. An interesting question to me is how much would Senators have to pay to get comparable coverage
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 06:44 PM by Melissa G
out on the open market.

The rich people that I know can be pretty tight with their money. Being thrifty is part of how some of them got rich. This conversation would also highlight the difficulty of an average family affording what the Senators automatically get. I'm relatively sure my family of four could not afford their level of coverage. I'd like to know what that would run if there are any insurance folks out there with that cost info.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:06 PM
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28. Comments about the Health Care crisis from Grayson's apology
"...And here’s why. According to this study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults” which was published two weeks ago, 44,789 Americans die every year because they have no health insurance. That’s right, 44,789 Americans die every year, according to this Harvard study called “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults.” You can see it by going to our website, grayson.house.gov. That is more than ten times the number of Americans who have died in the war in Iraq.

It’s more than ten times the number of Americans who died in 9/11. But that was just once: this is every single year. That’s right: every single year. Take a look at this. Read it and weep. And I mean that – read it and weep because of all these Americans who are dying because they don’t have health insurance."

Congress needs to fix this and they need to fix it well and they need to do it now. Health Care reform NOT Health Insurance reform. I'm willing to bet that many more folks die (and die bankrupt) because of inadequate health insurance. Health Care Reform NOW.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:54 PM
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30. Kick! n/t
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:40 PM
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32. Apparently One Senator is already doing this. KUDOS!!!
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 09:42 PM by Melissa G
From another DU thread, I have not been able to find a link on the wider web confirming this yet.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6672887

per cyclezealot post 10
Ohio's Sen. Sherrod Brown has gone on record.. He will not accept the public option plan for himself, until it is made available to the general public.. Not sure what private option he subscribes to for himself as a result of his refusal to take the Congressional plan. ?

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:34 PM
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33. How About Congress Has to Use the Exact Same Health Care Any Homeless Person Uses?
That would get them working on a decent plan right quick.
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