Full Text of Scrubbed Newsmax column suggesting a military coup might be needed to scrub Obama

[BurtWorm]

Courtesy of TPM:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/09/full_text_of_newsmax_column_suggesting_military_co.php


Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention

By: John L. Perry

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:

# Officers swear to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Unlike enlisted personnel, they do not swear to "obey the orders of the president of the United States."

# Top military officers can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized.

# They can see that Americans are increasingly alarmed that this nation, under President Barack Obama, may not even be recognizable as America by the 2012 election, in which he will surely seek continuation in office.

# They can see that the economy -- ravaged by deficits, taxes, unemployment, and impending inflation -- is financially reliant on foreign lender governments.

# They can see this president waging undeclared war on the intelligence community, without whose rigorous and independent functions the armed services are rendered blind in an ever-more hostile world overseas and at home.

# They can see the dismantling of defenses against missiles targeted at this nation by avowed enemies, even as America's troop strength is allowed to sag.

# They can see the horror of major warfare erupting simultaneously in two, and possibly three, far-flung theaters before America can react in time.

# They can see the nation's safety and their own military establishments and honor placed in jeopardy as never before.

So, if you are one of those observant military professionals, what do you do?

Wait until this president bungles into losing the war in Afghanistan, and Pakistan's arsenal of nuclear bombs falls into the hands of militant Islam?

Wait until Israel is forced to launch air strikes on Iran's nuclear-bomb plants, and the Middle East explodes, destabilizing or subjugating the Free World?

What happens if the generals Obama sent to win the Afghan war are told by this president (who now says, "I'm not interested in victory") that they will be denied troops they must have to win? Do they follow orders they cannot carry out, consistent with their oath of duty? Do they resign en masse?

Or do they soldier on, hoping the 2010 congressional elections will reverse the situation? Do they dare gamble the national survival on such political whims?

Anyone who imagines that those thoughts are not weighing heavily on the intellect and conscience of America's military leadership is lost in a fool's fog.

Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.

Unthinkable? Then think up an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem. Just don't shrug and say, "We can always worry about that later."

In the 2008 election, that was the wistful, self-indulgent, indifferent reliance on abnegation of personal responsibility that has sunk the nation into this morass

[redqueen]

1. Thank you, TPM!

:kick:

[BlooInBloo]

2. Screenshot would be better obviously, but thanks!

[havocmom]

3. thanks for posting the TPM link

More need to see the radical shit the RW is promoting out there

[BurtWorm]

4. 'America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. '

:spray:

[redqueen]

8. LOL... isn't it funny how stupid they are?

As someone pointed out on another thread about this idiot's blog post, they still think the military likes them. Hilarious!

[BurtWorm]

10. All of those points supposedly warranting a coup might have made sense

if they were leveled agaisnt Bush-Cheney. Like this one:

# They can see that the economy -- ravaged by deficits, taxes, unemployment, and impending inflation -- is financially reliant on foreign lender governments.

:wtf:

Where was John Perry's railing against mismanagement of the economy when his assholes were in charge?!

[redqueen]

13. The same reason those fools didn't care about the debt

when Reagan made the US a debtor nation... it was only a problem for them once Clinton looked threatening to what their leaders were sure was a lock on power.

They're mindless lemmings.

[Ghost Dog]

17. This jumped out: "undeclared war on the intelligence community"

Ha ha.

[BlueIdaho]

5. We need to paint them with this shit

We need to make sure they are married to this toxic balderdash. Everyone in America deserves to understand what the modern republican party has become - a terrorist organization promoting a military coup intended to overturn the will of the people.

[Ian David]

6. Looks like Sedition to me. n/t

[jemelanson]

7. Where were these guys and their concern when BushCo

Was shredding the Constitution and Bill of Rights during their eight year rein in Washington DC, running up that almost $8 Trillion Dollars in Debt to depose the ruler of Iraq and to ignore the terrorist threat in Afghanistan? Where were these guys when Bushco rammed Thur the TARP bail out with no accountability for the Banks and Wall Street? Why are they so blessed concerned now? Where were these guys when Bushco stated for the whole world to hear that the Geneva Convention was irrelevant and withdrew from it leaving our men and women in uniform at risk? Where was the concern then? Why now? What makes this time different? Is this more of the right wing fear and misinformation plan to take over this country, suspend the constitution and set up a Christian Taliban Government? I would really like an answer to any of these questions.

[Ian David]

9. Rush Limbaugh said something similar as well

Limbaugh's "Hanoi Jane" Moment

Forty years ago, Jane Fonda visited North Vietnam and was photographed on an NVA anti-aircraft gun. Wingnuts are throwing a hissy fit over that to this day. Which makes wonder what they will make of Limbaugh's call for a foreign power to invade the US and remove the Obama administration. Sounds like "treason" to me.

More:
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/?q=node/2912



Here's the short clip, with very short commentary by me. Sorry about the commentary. It is necessary to make the clip "fair use." Otherwise, I'm just rebroadcasting Limbaugh's show without permission.
Limbaugh's Foreign Invasion Comment For Your Cellphone
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/?q=node/2929

[bluescribbler]

11. Deja vu all over again, (1933)

I hope we have patriots like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot">Smedley Butler today.:mad: :patriot:

[Rude Dog]

12. They want change?

Wait until 2012. Then run someone who's not a flaimingly stupid asshole.

Oh, wait...

Anyway, it's sedition, plain and simple. This guy needs to spend a little time in a federal prison.

[Turbineguy]

14. Shit!

I thought we just finished a coup. When Bush became president. That was a coup. Apparently the conservatives did not succeed at destroying the country and now want to finish the job by force.

The fact that the Repubs did not succeed at destroying the country only points to their incompetence. You'd think 8 years would be enough. You'd think it would be easier than winning World War II.

[Diclotican]

15. BurtWorm

BurtWorm

Not surprising at all, that the right wingers of the US want mr Obama removed by military coup... Nothing surprise me anymore from that part of the world..

But isn't this treason to more or less tell the world, that they want a military coup against a democratic elected leader, who act according different from what they want a President to do?.. You have to have some nerve if you public tell the world, that you want the MILITARY to do a coup the Etat against a president you doesn't like.. This is an dangerous idea, who is been spread by the internet, that if you doesn't like the leader, you just ouster it by military means.. Not that the US haven't been doing that for decades other places.. But that some groups want it even in the US, because they doesn't like how the President want things to be doing is just stupid.. But the far right groups of every country is rather stupid anyway... So this is maybe not surprising at all

The idea of free speech, who they they surly will claim if confronted in Court by this is not the same as that they can say whatever they want, because free speech is so holy in the US.. In most parts of the world, included in most european country you just doesn't advocate the removal of the head of state by military means. If you do you have to face the consequences of what you write, and advocate.. But after 3 decades of right wing media dominance in the US, I guess that everything is allowed - as long as you are on the right wing that is. If everyone had written an article like that, on the other side when JR was in office, he/she would have been arrested and put into a mental institution, if not put into a maximal security prison, just for writing an article like that.

With the right like the freedom of speech like in the US, it comes with a lot of responsibility also. And it looks like the responsibility part is forgotten, and it is just a "right" to spew whatever you want to spew about the world, about the president who currently is in office or whatever you want to tell about minorities in general.. And if you just are on the right side of the political spectrum, you can tell whatever you want about how hatefully you are against everything and everyone.. And I would say, from the outside that most of the hatefully mongering that is directed toward the current occupant of the White House is because the man is 1 Black, 2 Is intelligent and managed to talk as an normal person 3 Are not right wing at all 4 Is liked by most abroad because he is a leader type. A person who is centrist, and intelligent is an danger to the "reality" that the right wingers of US have tried to build up for the last 3 decades..

What this article is telling is in most country in the world treason pure and simple. And in earlier days if this had been written in lets say 20 or 30 year ago, the author of the article would have been arrested, and maybe even convicted of treason, al bight he might have given a suspended prison time.. But Today from my desk it looks like everything is allowed by the right wing, even the fact that you can mean in writing, on a public place that you want the military to back a military coup against the President of the United States of America. And not just that, but a DEMOCRATIC ELECTED PRESIDENT to boot.. The same boozers and idiots who was NOT THERE when JR got into Office in 2000 and 2004, by all means by cheating his way to the office..

Diclotican

[BurtWorm]

16. Diclotican

This piece of shit is actually mild compared to things members of Congress have been saying, which have come close to inciting violence against the administration by spreading fear and mistrust of the government among the idiots who elected them.

We've seen one of the lead Republicans in the Senate charged with forging a bipartisan consensus on health care reform claiming that the Democrats were putting into the legislation a mandate for "death panels" that could "pull the plug on grandma." One nut from Minnesota seems to come out every day with a new reason to reach for your revolvers against federal agents coming to count you and the members of your household for the Census. And another nut from I don't know where just told a conference of right-wing Christians that Obama is an enemy of civilization.

These are elected officials whose job it is to work with the president, the courts, their counterparts in the Democratic Party. They're extremists--or, worse, just cynical Republican partisans, using all means necessary to weaken the Dems and get Repubs back in power--and they're just using all their time and energy while out of power to ramp up the chatter.

According to a book called "Before the Storm," by Rick Perlstein, the atmosphere of today is very much like the one in the years and months just before John Kennedy was killed in Dallas. If now is anything like then, the Republicans are going to keep pushing and pushing until something big and impossible to notice breaks. And then they're going to be forced to shut up for a while. But until it happens, they're going to push and push till they find the edge of the public's tolerance for this bullshit. Unfortunately, they've got a ways to go.

[Diclotican]

23. BurtWorm

BurtWorm

I know, some of your representatives in Senate and Congress have been making a lot of noise, and even insicing violence against the lawful Administration.. Who in most country would be seen as traitorous, or at plain stupid at best.. If an british MP have been acting out like some of your more "conservatives" he would have been arrested, and maybe thrown out of the House all together.. And the same would have been the case in most european Parliaments I guess...

I have trying to follow some of the trolls in the republican Party who have claimed a lot of different things, when it came to the health care reform, like the claim that the Administration want to have "death panels". As living in a country where universal Health care is just not an privilege for the few, but a right for the many I can't really grasp the reality this people is living in. It doesn't exist "death panels" where you have to show up your grandma so a panel of doctors can decide if he would have the medicine or not. Well, to claim they are trolls is maybe unjust - for the trolls that is..

Have been trying at least to follow the ordeal of the right wing extremist, even if it is difficult to grasp everything what is coming out here. It is much to follow and to me it also is alien because it is like coming back 200 year ago, when the british still ruled your country.. As I have understand it, you have the DUTY to inform your government local or otherwise of who is in your household, to a degree that is. If they are living there permanent they have to inform the local government that they are indeed living at the place.. And to threaten or to as in some cases killing the same persons who is counting heads is indeed a crime.. And the fanatic of why the fearfully should resist it is just stupid. If the Government of mr Obama really want to arrest everyone who claim to be an republican, they doesn't need to do a head count, they can just read the news, following the news on TV, and maybe most important, read the blog out there.. Then they would find all sorts of people who they could arrest - and maybe even give some medical need, because this paranoia who is been shown here should be medicated..

Off course they want a republican into power again. Most of them just hate the idea that the democratic Party won the election in 2008, and to boot elected an black man to be the President.. As an foreigner, who have been followed the election pretty close it was surprising who sad many of them was, when the election was over, and the next president was Barack H. Obama.. And it took in fact some days before the gloom and doom was making their way at the TV.. They even had some problems pronounce his name in the first days after the election took place... They really, really hated the fact that most americans voted for a black democratic President of the United States of America...

I would not be surprised if someone, or something will happened in the years ahead against Obama.. Be it an attentat like what happened in the weeks before JFK was killed, officially by a lone man with a rifle, but I would say many powerfully groups was after his life, and could have "Helped" in the act.. Have not read the book before the storm, but I'm not surprised that the right wing of the republican party, who is far more radicalized today than it was when JFK was killed could snap, and trying to kill a president.. The rumors on the blog sphere are already thick with some outlandish points of what to do with the communist/nazist/socialist/extremist Obama. And even other vice sane, decent Americans, who have children and grand children is going true the roof if you tell you support the current President.. They really HATE the man and what he is standing for. Even compared to most european standard he is slightly into the center/right line of politic..

Is it an danger that they want to kill the president.. Absolutely, he is indeed in danger to be wounded, maimed or outright killed by the extremist of the republican party in the US. You show it outside the areas where he is making his speeches, they are taunting the law when they are going around with all type of weapons, including weapon who have nothing with the concept og "self defense" but everything with attacking the others.. In most cases you would never been allowed near the area where a head of state is, but the right wingers claim it is allowed, and that nobody can take their AR-15 and other assault type of weapons from their hands..

The right wingers of the republican party want him killed, or goon by other means.. They cant put the adultery card to him, because he looks like he already have his dream of a woman in his life, and it looks like a nice marriage too. But if they cant get to him this way, they can always try to get him killed... After all the right wings have been doing that before too, in 1963 at least..

I hope Mr Obama survive the next 3 year, and maybe even get 4 new year in 2012.. But I'm also fearing that some want him dead, and is working pretty hard to make it possible too.. I hope the secret Service, and other branches of the security around mr Obama is doing his job, and keeping him safe.. But I fear that some is closer to killing him that we current know..

Diclotican

[BurtWorm]

24. Diclotican

Thank you for your perspective. We lefty Democrats appreciate having our lonely views validated by people from other countries. Most of us know Obama is not really a leftist or progressive--and that's painful for us. He often makes the right noise (meaning the "left" noise) only to shift really right. Very disappointing! But he's our legitimate president--first one in eight years--and our best hope right now, sad as that may be.

The Clinton years were similar, by the way. Clinton was a major disappointment to Democrats on the left, which was one big reason why a lot of us did not want him back in the White House, even as a first spouse! But I, at least, and I know many others like me, spent most of the Clinton years defending him against right-wingers on-line whose views of reality were so radically distorted (much as they are now) by their paleolithic beliefs.

Oddly enough, most Americans are either cool or apathetic. Most can tell the difference (or don't care about the difference) between socialists and Democrats. They're not interested in whom the president is fucking in his spare time. They like Obama personally and don't think he's out to ruin the country. But there's always that core of constipated fascist wingers who believe in God with a penis and the sacredness of the flag, who like throwing the words "freedom" and "constitution" around but have no interest in what those words really mean, and who are afraid to death of anything "foreign." And there's the American media that thinks representing that clique's views as "the other side" is good for ratings and profits. Unfortunatelty, that side is willing to do anything to get into power and stay there.

Anyuway, thanks again for your views and your interest in this bizarre country of ours.

:patriot:

[Diclotican]

27. BurtWorm

BurtWorm

You might feel you are alone, but you are _not_ alone, not in 2000, not in 2004, not in 2008, and not today. Many others in the world have been worried about the chaos and mischiefs who have ravaged your country the last couple of decades.. Mr Bush jr, who was "elected" in 2000 to the highest office are just the symbol of what have happened in the US for at least 30 year. Many of you have pointed to the point where mr Reagan was elected into office in 1980 as the turning point of the right wing policy who have saturated the US since... I was not even in school age when he was elected into office so I'm maybe not in the position to say if he was a good or bad president, even thou what I have been reading about the man is somewhat difficult to grasp sometimes.. He looks like a really simple minded man who believed he was doing "good" when he almost started a shooting war with the Soviets.. On the other hand he was one of the few in the US who understands, specially after Gorbachev was elected as leader, that he had a face, and a person to reason with... And the cold war, who everyone feared could end in nuclear exchange ended more like a vimp, when the wall was been teared down, and then the Soviet union was ended.. For good and for bad even a clown like Reagan have some forms that was "ok" I guess.. Even that the reality is that many others, like Gorbatsjew possible had a greater role for what become the end of the cold war than Reagan had... He was beginning to be somewhat senile at that stage... And often doesn't remember to much about what happend,....

When it came to mr Obama, and his more or less center/right policy I would say he could lean somewhat more to the left, than he currently is. But I guess he had to play is safe, than to risk more than possible in his first rounds with the policy makers.. He might not be any Kennedy, or an FDR, but he definitely have some ideas to how he want to steer the country. But the ship who is US is a really big ship to turn around, and it is not a easy task to try to safe some of the gain when your ship is a wreck and have to be rebuild in many cases from the keel to the to of the mast. And it is maybe even a harder work, when your opponents in Senate and Congress are doing their best to claim that you are the devil in human flesh, and that you want to turn USA into something like Cuba or far worse.. And this is not what Obama want - as I understand it, he will undo some of the horrible damage that mr Bush, and the right wings have made possible just the last 8-10 year.. To me as an foreigner who is looking into your country it is amazed that it exist people who want to ruin your amazing possibility, who want to rape and pillage everything good and fair in your country.. And who want to de-regulate the country to a place where the wealthy and the powerfully run the show all by them selfs.. And the common people is like modern serfs - but without the safety net the old serfs of europe had, even thou it was a safety net with big holes, the responsibility for the nobility still was there to protect and to serve the rest.. And in many cases, from the outside it looks like many americans is indicted to believe what you have been told in generations, even if what you have been told is not the truth, but rather the opposite.. Like that a public health care option is like communism.. But most of them who claim it, can't tell what a communist is, if you dear them, by ask what a communist really is..

Most americans I have had the pleasure of knowing by the ages (dam, I'm not that old!) have been nice, educated and often a pleasure to known.. But they do also have a really naive look on the outside of the world i would say.. Many seen to have living in somewhat of a cocoon where the world they have being living in, and the world outside that world is really apart and nowhere to meet.. To me it looks like they often have to much information about the world, and chose not to follow up on it, than to try to get so much information as human possible.. But it can also be because the US is a really big country, and you might have to choice little about what to follow up on?.. A small country like my own is maybe more easy to get a grip on, and even to have more information about the world, because we NEED to have a grasp of the rest of the world outside our own borders..?

Freedom and the flag means many things to many people I guess.. But I for one would say many who worship the flag is maybe using it as an excuse to play hardball with others, who also respect the flag, but have other feeling about the flag, than they have. To me it looks like many of the extreme right in the US, is trying to show the flag down the tr oath of everyone else, by misusing the flag, and to give the flag a wrong set of ideas.. And they are using the flag, as a means of tool for their bad deeds..

We all know how the right wingers was misusing the fear of foreign stuff to impose a way of fear about everything else than what they wanted it to be.. When the french opposed the Iraq war, they made it clear that french fries was to be named freedom fries - even that french fries IS an french invention.. Even your Statue of Liberty is indeed a french invention, and she is still in the front of NYC where he in more than 100 year have symbolized the whole USA for hundred of thousands of emigrants from the rest of the world.. And I guess, in the french fries case, the idea of name that food freedom fries fall apart as fast as the furor about going to war ended, and most americans still use the name french fries when they order it still...

Your country can indeed be bizarre, and weird at times.. But you also can be as caring as everyone else, and is full of decent, humans who want to do good.. Most americans, even the moderate to conservative are not bad people, and most of them is disgusted by the right wing who more or less has destroyed your amazing country... I for one believe the US still can be a force of good, but you have also a great responsibility to make it clear that the extreme right have to be just that, extreme right -and not playing part of any government in the future.. The Neo cons is just like the nazis in my book, better clothed, and softer talked, but they are as bad as the old nazis, they want to ruin destroy and pillage everything they can get their hand on... Europe learned it the hard way in World War Two.. We have to pray that US doesn't need to learn it the hard way we had to learn it

Diclotican

[BurtWorm]

28. Diclotican

Reagan was mostly a foolish old man in the early stages of Alzheimer's. He rose politically almost the way Chance in Jerzy Kosinski's Being There rose. He was selected by a group of powerful men in California--and by General Electric company--and groomed to appeal to voters' worst instincts so he could get into power and enact their agenda, first in California as governor and then in the US as a whole. In retrospect, compared to the manifestly evil Dick Cheney and idiotic George W. Bush, Reagan doesn't look so bad. But his administration--just one elected presidency from the traumatic Nixon-Ford years--was the beginning of the end of viable progressivism in the US. Republicans have been steadily at work castrating and disemboweling Democrats and training the media to roll over and play dead ever since.

I'm embarrassed by how little I know about your country (Norway, right?) and most other countries' political situations. My best friend from high school happens to live in Kristiansand. I visited him and his Norwegian wife when they lived in Bergen in the early 1990s. I know your PM is a woman and a conservative, right? I know you're not in the EU and won't be joining it any time soon, probably. At least I know something, I think. ;-)

But I'm really impressed with how much you know about the US's politics. On behalf of my country, sorry to fill your head with such useless and often disgusting information. I wish the rest of the world didn't have to worry about us quite so much.

[Diclotican]

29. BurtWorm

BurtWorm

Most of the impression I have of Mr Reagan too, a old man, in the early stages of a terrible illness.. No one deserve this, even not a man like Reagan I would say.. Everything you are, or have will be going, and just a corpse of yourself will live for a time after you, and your memories are goon..

But compared to Dick Cheney and George Walker Bush, even a old Alzheimer stricken Reagan is preferable I would guess...

The fact that the american media doesn't see what they are doing when they all is playing into the hands of the most extreme groups is maybe the most dangerous part of the all..

Yes I'm from Norway, the small Kingdom bordering Sweden, Denmark, Russia and Iceland. The world are indeed a small place sometimes.. You have been to my little country, nice and Bergen is maybe the nicest City in the whole of Norway if I might say so.. Even that it exist many rather nice small city's in Norway Bergen is a nice place. Kristiansand is also a nice place, and have a famous ZOO..

Our current PM is not a woman, and not conservative. Our current prime minister are from AP, the social democratic Party and is named Jens Stoltenberg. But we have had a woman in the seat of PM, her name was Gro Harlem Bruntland, and she was maybe one of the best prime minister we have had since Einar Gerhardsen, the first prime minister after world war two.

We have voted twice about the membership in ECC 1972 and then in 1994 for EU,(It was my first time to vote in 1994, and of course I voted NO) both times it was a clear NO to that idea. And it doesn't look like Norway will go into the EU fold anytime soon, we are pretty comfortable outside the EU, even if we work closely with the EU in most cases anyway.. But I doubt that we will vote to came into the membership of EU. Even both our closest friends Sweden and Denmark are part of the EU. Norway are comfortable with most of our connection with EU and other parts of the world. And to boot a wealthy nation with a lot of money in the bank..

Well, I'm not in the best knowledge about your country, who in many cases dazzles me with an amazing array of nuances I really haven't thinking about before.. To me US is both a confusing and amazing country who I hope to know better as I grow older and maybe have more knowledge about this country. But at least your country is interesting to try to following then..
We might worry about US, because most of us is friends of your country, even tho we sometimes have hard word about your actions against the rest of the world.. Specially under the Administration of mr Bush jr many of us had many hard words about US, and I was one of them.. And if Obama is somewhere that dumb as Bush I will give him the same words too.. But at the look at things, nobody can be that dumb as your former republican President..

Diclotican

[redqueen]

18. Kick

:kick:

[BurtWorm]

19. Thank you!

:kick:

[redqueen]

22. Thank you for posting it here!

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

20. k&r

[BurtWorm]

21. Thanks, Swamp Rat!

Nice to see you!

:hi:

[cliffordu]

25. Can someone publish the address and phone number of the author of this

piece of shit 'article'??

[Tommy_Carcetti]

26. Good Lord.

Although look at how the conservatives are approaching the situation in Hondoras--I once heard Rush talk about how the Obama administration opposes the "democratic administration" that took over in a freaking coup.

[Cha]

30. Kick.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. No wonder Newsmax is in damage control mode and denying he has an official relationship with them

That smacks of Sedition.

If used correctly this could be the end of Newsmax.