Poll: Is it better to have a Republican than a DINO?

[Thickasabrick]

Seriously am wondering about this. Lincoln's idea that we can achieve health care reform without a public option has really set me off.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. The question should be: Is it better to have zero change or head further in the wrong direction?

Because that's really the choice here.

[Sebastian Doyle]

6. As opposed to voting in the majority that should take you in the right direction

...and then they take you in the wrong direction anyway?

A DLC/Blueballed coward congress that votes in mandatory insurance IS, in fact, worse than a Repuke congress that does nothing at all with healthcare. Because the fake Democrats have not only made the healthcare situation worse, they have also left the Democratic party to take the blame for it.

And as I have often said, these piece of shit poseurs are doing exactly that, by design, because their purpose all along has been to destroy the Democratic party from within.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. Do you think this is at all the direction we'd be heading with Republicans in charge?

Really? Do you remember 1994-2006?

Name-call all you want, but this is what little change looks like - not heading in the "wrong direction." There can be absolutely no disputing that. Even with the mandates, Massachusetts' plan is still a lot better than what you get in any of the red states, so I'd really have to question whether or not you've really thought this through. Is it perfect? Hell no! Do I like it? Not particularly. But is it better than a Republican plan? Absolutely.

[Sebastian Doyle]

11. Hell yes it's worse than the Repuke plan!

The Repuke plan is NOTHING. It sucks, but it's the same level of suckage that exists right now.

The Baucus fake "democrat" plan is worse, because those corporate blowing sons of bitches will call it "reform" while the people who already can't fucking afford corporate insurance will be FORCED to buy it from some greedy piece of shit company that pays their CEO billions of dollars to defraud people. And the voters will turn on the people who did that to them, and rightfully so.

Neither the Democratic majority, nor any chance of REAL reform will exist again for a very long time, if this fraud is allowed to stand.

[merci_me]

2. My heart says yes, but my head says no.

We still need the numbers, even if the number is all they are, to retain the committee chairs.

[Hydra]

3. New Party Please

I'm tired of the one that says we have to act like republicans to win seats...total BS.

[orleans]

4. i voted for CUPCAKES

and i think the dnc should start running REAL dems against these freaking dinos.

[LeftishBrit]

5. Only if the Republican is more liberal than the DINO

Which is very rare, but I believe it has happened on occasion.

I read somewhere that Baucus' last Republican opponent actually supported publicly funded health care. If so, then perhaps it would have been better if he'd won.

ETA: there are a few Tories whom I'd have probably preferred to Blair. But I definitely wouldn't prefer Cameron to Brown.

[Goldom]

7. Yes, because

then you can run a better Dem the next time. Easier than a primary race against an incumbent.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. In Montana, Arkansas, Nebraska, or Dakotas, we can really get a better Dem?

Draw me a blueprint first, then I'll believe you.

[T Wolf]

10. The damage that the DINOs do is far beyond simply killing any chance for progress.

They soak up resources that should go to Democrats.

They enable the enemy across the aisle to trumpet that their opposition is bipartisan because the GOP-wannabes support them in everything.

As mentioned above, once they get in, it is almost impossible to unseat them. Better to have a known enemy (puke) to run against than someone who pretends to be a Democrat.

A real Democrat would not piss off the Democratic wing of the Democratic party so much that we consider (with increasing frequency) NOT SUPPORTING the individual Dems and the party leaders who coddle them.

[Taverner]

12. No - its better to have a FICUS

Remember that campaign?

[MoonRiver]

13. I would like to see a new party emerge....

but how? :shrug:

[Thickasabrick]

14. I personally would like to see a branch off of the Democratic Party

that would promote progressives only and have zero tolerance for lobbyists as part of it's platform. The Democratic Progressive Party.

[MoonRiver]

15. Agreed. But how do you propose pulling that one off? eom

[Thickasabrick]

16. Maybe we can start by only giving donations through ActBlue. I

think they only support progressive candidates. I hope they don't support blue dogs, but I'm not sure.

[LWolf]

17. Yes.

Democrats are less likely to enable, excuse, ignore, or play the "lesser of two evils" card when it's not "one of us."

I'd also like to see a 3rd party emerge. A leftist party. :shrug: