'The Politically Correct Leftwing Liberal Handbook - A Guide for the Mass Mind'

[Oeditpus Rex]

Found this at Rapture Ready. No source for it; apparently, fundies believe everything they agree with comes from Dog.

1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment for criminals, even murderers, but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that the military, not politicians, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee and Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal, and really a very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge. You must also vociferously deny the fact that "Nazi" is an abbreviation for Adolf Hitler's Nationalsozialist party, because Hitler makes socialism look bad, unlike humanitarian socialists like Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein and a host of other socialists who raped, tortured, maimed and slaughtered their own people in the name of political and economic advancement for the plight of the downtrodden.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a draft-dodging liar and sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interests of the United States.

21. You have to refuse to discuss the issues in a rational manner and whenever someone attempts to do so, throw a 3 ring tantrum, rant and rave, go into a lunatic rage and outshout them (preferably with profanity and name-calling) and stick to personal slurs, smear tactics, slander and building straw men so you can knock down the straw men (oops, sorry, straw persons) and hopefully sidetrack the conversation away from your lack of ability to support your position.

22. You must always ignore the message and attack the messenger. When stuck, remember the tactic that won't reveal to other Leftwing Liberals your unwillingness to rebut the issue under discussion or your inability to think or say anything original: smugly change a couple of your adversaries' words, parrot and repeat their comments back to them verbatim and even if it isn't true, by all means always be sure to accuse your opponents of using the very tactics the Leftwing Liberals try to hide, remembering all the while that Lenin would be proud.

23. No matter how credible a source may be - always do your Leftwing Liberal duty and rabidly claim it's been debunked and discredited and call anyone who believes it "mean spirited", crazy, a Nazi or any other of the monikers from the Leftwing Liberal grab bag of infantile epithets and sarcastic sobriquets.

24. Whenever demonstrated facts don't agree with your agenda, twist them and mangle them until you can make them fit into your prejudices, the media will assist you greatly.

25. Once you've told a lie or slandered someone, be sure to repeat it as often as possible until it becomes true. "Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-Semitic.... The association will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind." <~ Communist Party, Moscow Central Committee, 1943>

26. You have to believe that all spirituality and all religions except Islam are bad.

27. You must use the following buzzwords as often as possible: "Nazi", "Hitler", "Gestapo", "police state", "totalitarian state", "imperialism", "imperialist", "running dogs of , "greedy corporations", "shrub", "fascist", "paranoid", "goose stepping", "ruling-class", "class-strife", "class warfare", "stolen election", "racist", "entitlements", "hate", "bourgeois" or better yet, "petty bourgeois", "counter-revolutionary", "progressive", "red-baiter", "anti-Communist", "deviationist", "revisionist", "reactionary", "multiculturalism", "oppressed", "victims of Yankee oppression", "plight of the people", "mean-spirited", "McCarthyism", "jingoism", "flag-wavers", " Neocons " and, of course, overuse of the indispensible "F" word.

28. You have to believe that there were never any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq , even though they were used against Iran , the Kurds and the Iraqi people and even though the many Democrats warned us about WMD before the Iraqi invasion: William Jefferson Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Sandy Berger, Madeline Albright, Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, John Kerry, Bob Graham, Ted Kennedy, Representatives Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman and vice-president Al Gore to name only the most vociferous.

29. You have to be a purveyor of perennial pessimism and a dispatcher of doomsday gloom and hyperbolic hysteria whenever you can work some scare tactics into the foreboding warnings of eventual catastrophe at the hands of your adversaries, i.e. people who disagree with you.

30. Whenever possible, if you hear or read something that seems quite logical and might influence someone against the Leftwing Liberal viewpoint, be sure to pounce on the exception or some tiny, inconsequential irrelevancy, such as the misspelling, poor punctuation or mispronunciation of a word, unusual facial expression, article of clothing or some morsel of arcane trivia or irrelevant minutiae in an attempt to derail the conversation into petty bickering replete with name-calling and personal slurs.

31. Always have unkind and accusatory slurs cocked and ready to use regarding any armed forces personnel, especially military people in harm's way other than your own candidates, sell-outs, turncoats, traitors and those who are guilty of or advocate treason. The exception, of course, would be soldiers killed or wounded when a Republican is president - then take an indignant stance and shriek hysterically at the tragedy - don't worry other Leftwing Liberals will realize your disdain for military people who are to spoken of favorably when you think it will make conservatives look bad in the eyes of Leftwing Liberals, the lunatic fringe and the politically illiterate.

32. When your adversary presents a particularly damning discovery, pervert it, twist it around, fabricate something out of thin air and accuse him of something he didn't say, falsely attribute your invention to him and then proceed to argue against your own creation with the hope nobody will notice. This is best done by beginning your remarks with "in other words" or "so what you are suggesting" or "are you saying that..." followed by the most implausible, irrelevant non sequiturs you can fantasize.

33. You have to remember that nobody but your adversaries, real or imagined are ever to blame for anything and no one should ever be accountable or held responsible for their words or actions - they're just misunderstood.

34. You have to be a victim of as many forms of melodrama as possible and be ever vigilant to promote victimization of almost anything and anyone although that's very difficult to reconcile with the assertion that nobody's to blame for anything, except the people who don't agree with you.

35. You must always have Double Standards, a higher standard that you demand of corporations as well as people you don't like and people who don't agree with you and another set of standards for yourself and your Leftwing Liberal confederates which is preferably no standards at all.

36. You must with all your heart and soul hate America and Americans and bash them at every opportunity, while claiming you love America though you contend that American patriots are really traitors. And do remember to accuse people who don't agree with you of being the ones who hate America and Americans. This won't confuse people with IQs above eggplants, but remember some of our best friends are about as intellectually astute as ashtrays.

37. You must always remember that you are a member of the grown up 4-H and it is incumbent on you to always display their watchwords: hallucinations, hyperbole, hysteria and hate.

38. You have to believe that just because your candidate lost an election (by all means stomp and shout "election fraud" or "stolen election") or an unacceptable law was passed there's always the possibility of going to court to get your way in spite of the electorate and their congressional delegates.

39. You are always to belittle and deride concepts such as optimism, patriotism, honor, honesty, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty, courage, bravery, principles, trust, trustworthiness, reliability, responsibility, respect, common-courtesy, common decency, kindness, Good Samaritanism, sacrifice, patience, fortitude, values, integrity and character as being naive and passé . Call anyone who uses those words, "judgmental" and "intolerant".

40. You are encouraged to lionize, venerate, yea, worship sloth, lust, self-centeredness, selfishness, instant gratification, slander, criminal behavior, drug addiction, degenerate behavior, promiscuous sex, lewd remarks and behavior, rudeness, crudeness, crassness, smutty language, vulgarity of all kinds, disrespect for authority, laws, law enforcement and military while showing respect for prostitution, drug dealing, gang-bangers, organized crime, pornography and generally everything that would aid in tearing down the social fabric of the United States of America and all she stands for.

41. Be sure to exhibit incessant anger at America and Americans in general and rage at conservatives, centrists and anyone who doesn't agree with your ideas.

42. You must be "politically correct" when it suits your purpose and point out that political correctness is a form of freedom rather than more mind-control, but, it's more important to demand that others be "politically correct" than actually follow those demands yourself.

43. You must always offer praise and/or excuses for all of America's enemies, especially terrorists who aren't really murdering cowards, but, rather multi-culturally misunderstood.

44. Remember to claim that the flag is only a piece of cloth and stands for nothing while you explain how you love America and that's why you howl and hurl hateful epithets regarding America and Americans, especially those who disagree with you.

45. Whenever someone says something that rubs your prejudgments the wrong way, ignore the contents of the remarks and vilify, defame, malign and slander that person while claiming everything that person has ever said or will ever utter is wrong. You are encouraged to take cheap shots and engage in name-calling and ad hominem attacks, but, above all, if you're a true standard-bearer for the Leftwing Liberals, avoid discussing issues you can't debate - which are, of course, all of them.

46. Honor multi-culturalism and know its "truths": "Multiculturalism, n. The doctrine that persons of European ancestry are morally inferior to all other human beings." ~ John Derbyshire, inspired by Ambrose Bierce and his _Devil's Dictionary_

47. When confronted with something that is critical of Leftwing Liberals read or listen to one or two lines and jump to conclusions (it's the best exercise many Leftwing Liberals get) that the beginning was awful (meaning it might ask a Leftwing Liberal to actually think or to look at Leftwing Liberals in an uncomplimentary light) - and claim you didn't bother to read the rest or listen to the remainder all the while claiming to be open-minded.

48. You must take it as your sworn duty to do your utmost to prevent people from printing, voicing, writing or otherwise disseminating any communication which is either unfavorable to or not in agreement with Leftwing Liberal dogma and you must also strictly enforce Political Correctness, while at the same time doing your best to muzzle and silence those who don't agree with you. Tell adversaries to "Do as I say, and I'll do as I please!" This is not censorship, hypocrisy or Double Standards, but rather, "Freedom of Speech" an important Constitutional Amendment written to give Leftwing Liberals their God-given rights, even if they renounce and don't believe in God.

49. If you don't agree with the points of others, under no circumstances should you present a rational counter argument or discuss the issue itself when it is much more effective to call people liars and cast aspersions on their veracity. This is also effective if a person makes a mistake, don't overlook or excuse the error or admit there was a possibility of a mistake - call them liars ferociously, unless it's a petty sideline mistake that will help you construct smoke and mirrors, in that case see Article #30 above.

50. Conservatives suggest that people should "hate the sin, love the sinner".
Remember, as a Leftwing Liberal you must always hate the sinner and love the sin as all sins are "relative" and finding anything wrong with them is " judgmental ". This may be difficult to grasp at first glance since Leftwing Liberals don't believe in "sin" except for hypocrisy which is the only sin, when applied to our opponents and is one of the most effective slurs in our arsenal. See Article #54

51. You must never be willing to take the consequences of your own actions or words or expect your confederates to do the same as long as you can unjustly lay the blame on someone else. But, of course, it is critical that you demand that people who don't agree with your ideas be held to strict adherence of taking the consequences of their actions: See Article #35 above regarding nurturing our trademark: Double Standards.

52. When asked to give citations, sources or support for your propaganda, you can do one of 4 things: Use secondary sources which supposedly give "expert" Leftwing Liberal opinion on the primary sources when they're not ignoring them, taking phrases out of context, twisting their words or perverting their meaning; make an official-looking, bogus website (provided you know someone who knows how to make one and is also literate enough to write without a spell check) with the fake "facts" you've presented; refer them to a propaganda site that may or may not support your claims or the third and preferred solution is to give them the URL of an official or universally accepted website and claim vehemently that the so-called information you've invented, created or faked is from that website though anyone who looks won't find it there.

53. Remember, "A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money." ~ G. Gordon Liddy

54. You have to support and promote socialized medicine as "Socialized medicine is based on the belief that, while individual bankruptcy by medical bills is tragic and wicked, bankrupting the entire country is beneficial and noble." ~ Nicolas Martin <"If you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til you see how much it costs when it's free."> ~ P. J. O'Rourke

55. When your adversaries make statements that ring true, seem logical or appear to have merit, ask them completely irrelevant non sequitur questions in an attempt to evade the issue and derail the conversation. If that doesn't work, announce with all due grandiosity that your opponents refuse to answer your questions or give cites, therefore, they cannot support their assertions. This ploy of course won't work with people who can think, but, it will bring Leftwing Liberals and the lunatic fringe out of the woodwork to jump on your bellicose, bungling bandwagon.

56. You must always vociferously and incessantly point out that the reason any conservative's failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: "Hypocrisy!" Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames us Leftwing Liberals and, of course, only applies to others because Liberals can always invoke the time-honored Double Standard. Inasmuch as Leftwing Liberals have no moral principles, we can sit back, march, or otherwise create a ruckus as we criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It's an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites. Remember, admission that morals and ethics are passé always gets you off the hook - but, do not hesitate to point out the immorality or unethical behavior of people who don't agree with Leftwing Liberals.

57. Remember, as a cheerleader for decadence, when any despot, criminal or maniac is treated in any way differently from the way he treated others, it's your sworn duty to scream to the heavens that he isn't being treated with dignity and is being embarrassed in spite of the fact he may have raped, tortured, maimed and slaughtered others; as a Leftwing Liberal you must remain silent about the victims of despots, criminals and maniacs. The victims got what they deserved and despots, criminals and maniacs are to be honored, lionized, venerated and if they're bad enough, worshipped.

58. As a Leftwing Liberal, you must believe that all America foreign policy must have the unanimous approval of France, Russia, Syria, Cuba, North Korea, Communist China and the United Nations.

59. You must learn to be agile at pulling the old Leftwing Liberal Switcheroo. Naturally in normal discourse, you must incessantly and nauseatingly bash your country, slur and slander the founding fathers and American institutions like the FBI, CIA, etc., calling them terrorists and murderers, disparage all religions except Islam, denounce all military institutions and personnel, chide all people who have moral convictions and on and on ; but, remember, when trying to win a petty bickering match, employ the Leftwing Liberal Switcheroo - which means dropping your old mantras and immediately feigning to embrace your opponents' views momentarily while you don the mask of reverence for those you hate, but know your adversary admires. If you are successful enough in public discourse and exhibit it with enough frequency, you may be eligible to win a toaster from The Leftwing Liberal Liberty Lobby.

60. As a Leftwing Liberal, you must be like a feminist bookstore in that you have no sense of humor and must make no effort to distinguish between serious commentary and obvious humor and sarcasm.

61. As a Leftwing Liberal, you must shout "Hypocrite" and "Hypocrisy" whenever your fantasies indicate that an adversary accepts the entirety of a political party, political administration or political philosophy. If the person purports to have any disagreements with that political party, political administration or political philosophy, maliciously call them "Hypocrites" while foaming at the mouth, gnashing your teeth, beating your breasts and tearing your hair. It's the Leftwing Liberal Catch-22 where you are going to brand them “Hypocrites" no matter what they say or do. After all, "Hypocrite" is our favorite word and the only sin we recognize - in others, of course.

62. You must always be conscious of Political Correctness. "'You're not allowed to call them dinosaurs anymore. It's speciesist. You have to call them pre-petroleum persons.'" ~ Terry Pratchett

63. Remember, one of the Leftwing Liberal hallmarks is to try to instill fear and use whatever scare tactics are available. This in conjunction with doomsday prophecies, perennial pessimism and hopelessness, real or imagined, will hopefully amplify the fear in others. "Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." ~ Bertrand Russell

64. Whenever someone offers documentation or legal proof, one effective method of obfuscation is to claim the documents, certificates, court orders or whatever was forged, fraudulent, fake or fudged. The same thing can be done when someone offers proof of a candidates' popularity because he was elected to office - you can merely spare the gore and claim the election was rigged and the rightful candidate was robbed. Remember Uncle Joe's Maxim: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." ~ Josef Stalin I guess poor Uncle Joe didn't know about using the courts to circumvent legislation and elections.

65. You must always insist that the _Holy Bible_ must never be read in schools, but, it's acceptable reading in penitentiaries and people testifying in court must swear on the _Holy Bible_, but, the _Bible's_ "Ten Commandments" cannot be displayed at the courthouse by court order.

66. If your party successfully elects a candidate that is constitutionally unqualified to hold that office, then the entire US Constitution is considered to be null and void during the period of time that the officeholder holds that office or until such time that the officeholder issues an Executive Order which invalidates the US Constitution in it's entirity.

67. You, as a Leftwing Liberal, have to believe that all of the above is part of a vast right wing conspiracy.

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[rrneck]

1. No one overdoes bullshit like that bunch.

I couldn't read all of it.

[drdtroit]

2. 68. You have to be a fucking moron to write something like this n/t

[47of74]

7. You mean a fucking moran

[drdtroit]

8. Well, yes, but I'm a stickler for proper spelling LOL! n/t

[omega minimo]

3. The flipside, their guidebook can fit on a matchbook

"You must be a hypocrite."

[villager]

4. the usual projection -- they're classic cases, those righties...

n/t

[EFerrari]

9. It's creepy that all they can imagine is coercion.

You must, you have to.

[villager]

22. well put -- that is literally how they see the entire world; exterior and interior

n/t

[unpossibles]

5. oy, marking to read in the morning. nt

[booley]

6. So much for "Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness"

Maybe the next guide they do can be about which parts of the Bible they get to ignore.

[ezgoingrl]

10. I was quite finished after number 5.

Brevity, people BREVITY!!!

[maglatinavi]

14. brevity

So was I?:thumbsdown:

[ezgoingrl]

11. Wait, had a thought.

Tonight, my 4 year old pointed to a place on the wall where she had decorated with a black magic marker. She asked me, "Am I an artist, Mama?" Instead of explaining that artists use paper and canvas, I should have told her, "No honey. You haven't received a federal grant." I'll try harder next time.

[maglatinavi]

13. Art...

What kind of thought was that??? :kick: :kick: :spank:

[maglatinavi]

12. lib handbook

What kind of crap is this??? :puke: :puke: :kick: :kick:

[JohnnyLib2]

15. Limbaughian lunacy.

:crazy:

[travelingtypist]

16. I got to number 4 before my brain started to hurt and I had to stop.

These people are crazy.

[Moderator]

17. It's true, you always assume other people see the world the same way you do

*sigh*

1) Well, we don't know how it's spread until we do some research. Which, you know, often comes from federal funding.

2) They are called "health teachers". My uncle is one. He has a master's degree in education, thanks to all those socialized programs like cheap public universities. He's in a teacher's union, too.

3) About half of Democrats are pro-gun. China has had nukes for 40 years. North Korea developed nukes on Bush's watch. And Reagan deliberately gave nuclear weapons technology to Pakistan so he would have a pathway to fund and supply Osama Bin Laden.

4) There was. Sorry, I don't know where you're going with this, unless you're upset because the art that was developed with no-strings-attached federal funding dared to challenge societal norms.

5) Regardless of whether it's natural or man-made, our civilization grew into maturity based on how certain weather patterns worked. Our supply lines and living conditions depend on stable ecosystems. If that changes, regardless of the source, we're fucked.

6) The genders are different, but less than you might think. And yes, homosexuality is natural. You don't like it, blame God.

7) Lots of liberals are pro-death penalty, but have problems with how it is applied, such as on bad evidence or questionable eyewitnesses. Texas is an excellent example of this. And I'm curious... what rights SHOULDN'T be "on demand"? Do you think you should be able to buy an assault weapon or a handgun "on demand"?

8) Businesses do create oppression, especially when left unchecked. And I haven't noticed much prosperity in places with limited government. However, when government keeps businessses from getting too large and market segments from being dominated by monopolies, the action of both government and the competitive businesses create prosperity.

9) Hunters do care about nature. However, the same people that protect their gun rights also want to sell the forests to developers for housing subdivisions and let coal miners destroy entire mountaintops with explosives.

10) Um, what?

11) In this country, only politicians can start wars. So....?

12) Again, about half of Democrats are pro-gun. However, the shrill paranoia of the NRA the last couple of decades has suceeded burying whatever good and valid points they have in mounds of lowest-common-denominator bullshit.

13) For the rich, taxes are too low. For the poor, fees are too high. Who do you think set up the system? (Hint: not the poor people)

14) I don't know who Margaret Sanger is. I've heard the name Gloria Steinem before but that's it. I've heard of Jefferson, Lee, and Edison, though.

15) Or, alternately, you have to believe that tests can't be created to have bias but long-oppressed minorities should just magically be able to achieve as the advantaged majority.

16) Actually I've heard she's unusually smart, but past that, yeah.

17) Um, the social-democracy nations of Western Europe, Canada, Japan, and South Korea beg to differ. And "national socialist" is not "social democracy"... Hitler made sure that unionists, communists, and social democrats were in the prison camps next to the Jews and homosexuals. And Communism isn't social democracy either, as the Tianamen Square people can testify to. At least, the ones that are still alive.

18) I didn't realize that Dubya was also a sex offender, but regardless I never thought he belonged in the White House.

19) I don't think bestiality is portrayed at gay pride parades, only in the dank corners of closed minds when they fantasized about gay pride parades. I sure hope you don't have a pet. And no liberal cares about you displaying manger scenes until and unless you decide that public, secular, taxpayer-funded buildings should be the home for your religious display.

20) I guess you expressed similar outrage over the Republic of Georgia hiring a lobbyist to get John McCain to try to get the US military involved in fighting Russia?

21) Ahem. Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Seah Hannity.

22) Ibid.

23) Ibid.

24) Ibid.

25) Ibid. How are those "death panels" working out for you?

26) All religious fanaticism is bad, as are all theocracies. That's why we hate Pat Roberts et. al.

27) See #21

28) The WMDs that Iraq used (that we gave to him as foreign military aid) were all used before the 1991 Gulf War and destroyed in subsequent years. Not that preparation isn't prudent; after all, you never know when we might bomb a chemical factory or something and spread a toxic cloud of fumes all over the place.

29) See #21

30) Ibid.

31) Um... what? We often have slurs ready for the greedy draft-dodging idiots that order the troops into combat for stupid or selfish reasons. The fact that the most recent ex-President was a Republican who ordered an illegal invasion for oil and good PR makes their deaths more tragic, not less. The troops themselves, not so much. Good try, though.

32) See #21.

33) So.... when is Bush taking responsibility? Cheney? Rumsfeld? Rove? Addington? Gonzales? Brenner? Ashcroft? Bolton? You'll have to speak up... I can't year you over the roar of the crickets.

34) See #21.

35) So, when are Vitter and Sanford going the way of Spitzer? And when is Blackwater going to be defunded like ACORN?

36) No, just the actions you make America do when your side is running things. We don't like those too much. And neither do a lot of other people in the world. There's a fine line between patriotism and nationalism, and if you think your country can't do anything wrong then you're not a patriot, you're a nationalist.

37) See #21.

38) Hmmm... our candidate didn't lose until a court intervened on behalf of the Republican. So your own statement, your own sentence, is a contradictory statement. :rofl: You dolt!

39) Says the party of fear-mongering corporatist hypocrites. Oh, and this entire screed of yours is a shining example of the opposite of about half of the adjectives you mention.

40) Really? Then perhaps you can explain to me why the blue states have lower divorce rates, abortion rates, teen pregnancy rates, suicide rates, poverty rates, crime rates, and STD rates. Again, you'll have to speak up... I can' hear you over the roar of the crickets.

41) Sure, after all, we'll be trying to balance out the vitriol from #21.

42) Um... what?

43) Your absolute refusal to understand why terrorists become terrorists and why they are terrorizing us is exactly what is wrong with the discourse in America, and why you will never suceed in a conflict with them. And your mocking of people that try to understand and explain only underscores this truth.

44) If Americans are huring America, damn right I'm going to make a stink. You don't want to hear it? Stop hurting my country!

45) See #21

46) Up your meds, dude. Here's a hint: European-descended peoples are not automatically superior to everybody else, either

47) I think my responce to this bullshit of yours shows remarkable patience and in-depth reading on my part.

48) Awww... does my little ignorant Rapture-Ready friend still think the media is liberal? How quaint! Nevermind the big media corporations, Faux News, Rupart Murdoch, or the 600 radio stations that leading conservative talkers are on... (compared to less than 70 for Thom Hartmann, for example). Liberals run the media. Yup, it's totally true. :eyes: So because NBC has a couple of gay guys on a sitcom the media relentlessly surpresses all conservative news? Really?

49) See #21. I'll give you a brownie point for properly spelling "aspersions", though.

50) How about you simply stop worrying about what Biblical laws people break and concentrating on your own morality? And how about you stop using Biblican law as a basis for secular law?

51) See #33.

52) See #21

53) You money... that you earned because the system creates conditions for you to make money in the first place.

54)

55) See #21

56) Gee, I didn't know that asking somebody from the Family Values/Moral Majority/Sancity of Marriage troop to resign after "hiking the old Appalachian Trail" is hypocritical. We're not holding you to our standards, we're holding you to yours. Hurts like a bitch, don't it? We're not holding everybody to our standards but only enforcing it when you fall short. That's something your side does. (Vitter, Ensign, Stanford). And how many deferments did Cheney, Rove, and Ashcroft get? Why won't Bush, Cheney, or Rove give testimony under oath?

57) Um, dude, you've been listing to #21 too much. I'll tell you what... if you want the US military to tirelessly go after such despots, then you'd better put your priciples where your mouth is and demand, DEMAND a draft, nationalization of the military-industrial infrastructure, and war taxes so we can invade, occupy and stabilize every despotic country in the world. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. And if you don't find it even slightly suspicious that the only countries that we invade to remove dictators sit on lakes of oil, then you are disconnected from reality.

58) Again, if you want to act unilaterally, then you'd better demand a draft, war taxes, and nationalization of the military-industrial complex. If not, get assistance and teamwork.

59) So let me get this straight... Bush orders the CIA to torture people, we critisize the CIA for torturing people, and when nothing changes, this makes us un-American? Don't you get it? The people running the country have ordered various government institutions to do bad, illegal and/or immoral things! The fact that you mindlessly support them is both unpatriotic and shows a desparate lack of morals and values.

60) It's more likely that your sense of humor simply sucks. Face it, liberals are far funnier than conservatives.

61) Spitzer hires a hooker and resigns. Sanford travels to Argentina on the the taxpayer dime to have an affair with his mistress and doesn't. Vitter hires a hooker and doesn't resign, either. Newt Gingrinch is fucking his secretary while he's impeaching Clinton for getting a blowjob. Nope, no hypocracy there! I think the reason you are so enraged about being called hypocrates is because you know it's true.

62) How about just not sounding like an asshole? Here's a hint: "I have a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple" makes the speaker sound like an asshole.

63) Terror terror nine-eleven smoking gun muchroom cloud Saddam Hussein terror terror September Eleventh terror never forget Iraq Iraq color-coded alert system be afraid terrorists Niger yellowcake nine-eleven terrorists Saddam mushroom cloud terror

64) Exactly. Bush's brother was governor, Bush's Florida campaign manager was also the Florida Secretary of State, and Bush's father appointed several US Supreme Court justices.

65) It can be read in school as part of academics, not religious instruction. I don't care what people read in prison, as long as it's not a bood on how to escape from prison. People in court should be able to swear on the book of their choice. And a secular courthouse should not be displaying one faith's recipe for how to behave to get into heaven.

66) Dude, unlike McCain, Obama was born on US soil. If the Panama Canal Zone can be considered "US soil", then I think the State of Hawaii more than qualifies him.

[krispos42]

18. Fuck, how did I manage to post it under "Moderator"?

Shit fuck piss.

:grr:

[B Calm]

19. Got to hand it to you. you read every falsehood. . .

[krispos42]

20. Thanks, although it would help if you could reply to #18

Because I posted as "Moderator", it doesn't show up in my recents.



It tools a couple of hours, but it gives me a chance to home my rhetorical talking-points in case my boss at work is feeling frisky and wants to argue.

:-)

[Toucano]

25. Wow. Good job! n/t

[krispos42]

29. thanks, we have to keep our verbal skills sharp n/t

[quaker bill]

21. Of course Saddam "had" WMD

before the first gulf war. One would hope that he did, in that billions of our taxpayer dollars were spent to assure it. We knew where they were built because we paid for the plants with "agricultural assistance grants" and Rumsfeld worked with the German engineering firms to get them built. It takes very small adjustments to such plants to go from creating an acetocholine esterase inhibitor effective on insects (found in many home use insecticides) to an acetocholine esterase inhibitor effective in mammals (VX gas). Move a couple of atoms around in the structure and you are good to go.

We bought the plants, and the supplies for Saddam to make them before the first gulf war. Then, we paid the UN inspector team to remove and destroy them after the first gulf war. Where Bush, Cheney, Condoweeza, and Rummy were surprised (as well as some on our side) was that the UN teams were actually quite effective in removing them. Of course, the other point most of them missed, but should have been obvious to any thinking person, was that Saddam had stopped using WMD on his own. He had massive quantities but did not use them against the coalition forces in desert storm. This was not because Saddam had gained some sort of humanitarian streak, it was because they were lousy and ineffective weapons that were more likely to kill his own troops than they were to do us any significant damage. (Just like we found them to be in WWI and the actual reason why their use was generally banned).

The reason he did not have any when we invaded this time was not because Saddam wanted to comply with UN mandates, it was because WMD of the sort he could have built, were in fact quite expensive, very dangerous to store, and all but useless. The very notion that he might have had any of this crap hidden in one of his palaces or any other place he might have gone was flatly absurd as even we have problems with our WMD leaking toxins. No self-interested person wants any of these near a bedroom where they might sleep. Saddam may have been many things, but one thing even the most ardent on the right should agree to is that he was never lacking in self interest. One only survives as a dictator for 25 years in the middle east by taking personal security quite seriously.

Saddam did something far more effective, he purchased mass quantities of high explosives, located them in conveniently placed dumps all over the country, and when invaded simply opened the doors, sent the security forces home, and allowed nature to take its course. This is where the IED came from.

[Toucano]

23. Communist Chinese?

What year are these people living in?

[Kievan Rus]

24. Wow, what a bunch of whackos

[walldude]

26. LMAO... actually all I have to believe is that the rapture people are

a bunch of lunatic assholes who couldn't find their own ass with a GPS. :rofl: :rofl:

[subcomhd]

27. I can laugh at myself and liberals in general - but none of this shit is funny.

I was once playing cards with some RW friends of mine. I suggested that three cards be wild and one of my GOP friends said.

"Hell. let's just make them ALL wild, then everyone's a winner - typical Liberal."

I thought that was actually funny - none of the shit above is.

[BoneDaddy]

28. To a small degree this does happen

but on a much larger note: TALK ABOUT PROJECTION.