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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:50 AM Original message |
Am I a bitter Black man? Michelle's family history isn't remarkable if you PAID ATTENTION in . . . |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. How much AA history do they actually teach in school (public or charter) |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Funny thing. My wife and I went to segregated schools. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. Thanks for sharing your very positive experiences. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. The remarkable part is that although many blacks share the same story, only Michelle is the |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yup, but we didn't need an article in the New York Times to tell us it was remarkable. . . |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. I don't think many people are surprised. Its just interesting to read about the details of her |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
74. I agree that I wish it didn't take a NY Times article, but yet I am happy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Might consider that many people never had to think through, |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. not overreacting at all. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Is tracing the ancestry common? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Most African Americans know their family tree. . . |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. So you know the name of the slave |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Pappa Tyler and his sister Sara on my Dad's side--Selma Alabama |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Cool |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. But Michelle and I are not unique. . .talk to most Black folks, especially those. . . |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. That's terrific |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. There are a lot of old records available |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. in a way, it was not that long ago |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Not to speak out of turn (white guy here), BUT |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. And more importantly most of us cannot trace our roots to a specific African country. . . |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Some people are now making use of DNA technology to augment their geneological research |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Beat me to it. I remember a PBS mini series by |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. And that's the difference in Michelle's story |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. That is not a difference, many of us can trace it back to particular slaves. . . |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Why was ROOTS so popular if it wasn't unique? n/t |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. ROOTS was not unique, it was the first time the story was told. . . |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. So you were shocked at ROOTS |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yeah an 8 year old would be shocked by ROOTS |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And many won't realize the First Lady |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Yes. My daughter is taking a class on white privilege |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. A class on white privilege? Really? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. It's at Oberlin College |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. LOL I know a thing or two about Oberlin. . . |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Yep. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
54. A class on 'white privilege'???? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Here's a description from a prior year. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
59. Well, actually the enslaved are mentioned in many wills. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. That's why Michelle's story is important |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. You are definitely after my heart. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. That should be a traveling series |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. My first European ancestors |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Nuhuh. Mine too! |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. There's a Dorlac, |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. There are some regional differences to answer that question, though |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
9. is their a link to article ? n/t |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Here is the link |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. imo. No. You are not overreacting. K&R |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
15. I can't help but think of this when reflecting on the story... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
21. I posted it yesterday because I found it interesting and inspiring |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. Definitely not overreacting. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. Eh? Guess there's a news story out there somewhere that I'm missing. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The NY TIMES ran a story on Michelle Obama's family roots. . . |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Oh. lol! We white folks are ALWAYS surprised, and then condescendingly supportive... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. LOL |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Oh, OK |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Anyone's roots will trace back to something similar if you back far enough |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. No. You're not overreacting. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
32. I think for a lot of people US slavery happened in a distant time and place. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. BINGO. nt |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. I htink you may be right. Dates make things sound long ago, but counting generations makes |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. No, you are NOT over-reacting............ |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
36. They are surprised to hear she has white ancestors. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
77. I'm surprised that people would find that remarkable. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
40. what I think is great is that we finally have a descendant of slaves in the White House |
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GirlAfire (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. +1,000,000 |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. LOL we knew that the night Obama was elected, or at least for that was one of the. . . |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I didn't know Michelle's family background - Obama is in fact not the descendant of slaves |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. No one said Obama was the descendant of slaves. . . |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
45. no, you're not overreacting |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
48. What is remarkable is she is spouse to the president |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. Intersting how this article and the summary at www.irishcentral.com don't |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. I read the NYT article carefully for precisely that point. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. It's a tough call, but I'm surprised more uncertainty wasn't used to |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. I think putting names and faces to it "brings it home" |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
58. I kinda thought the same thing ..... |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
65. You are not overreacting. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
66. General history which everyone knows is always more poignant when narrowed down |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
68. No, u are not. Almost all of us can be linked directly back to slavery. We have |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
69. I'll bet most younger generation whites have never seen "Roots" |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
89. My students will this year. |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. No, you're not overreacting. We have American Indian, and white bloodlines |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
71. Nah, you're not overreacting |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
73. Here's the thing...... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Thanks Frenchie, the significance of Michelle's being the first First Lady to have this story. . . |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
75. of course!! |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I am so flattered you remembered that I was high yella! |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. LOLOL!! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. I agree. I remember actually feeling uneasy sitting in HS history class |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. LOL I remember having everyone turn around and look at me and the other Black kids. . . |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
88. You might be over reacting a bit. Americans are always rediscovering our history. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
91. I haven't heard about Fox "News" coverage of this; are they bashing her about it yet? |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
92. I for one think that it IS a remarkable story, whether |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
93. No |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
94. i don't think you're over reacting |
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