Is it Acceptable for a DUer to believe that Obama hasn't earned the Nobel Peace Prize?

[el_bryanto]

What do you think?

Bryant

[bigwillq]

1. Totally acceptable

And it's totally acceptable for a DUer to believe Obama has earned it.
It's our opinion. Respect it.

:) :hi:

[Kazak]

2. Earned schmearned.

He won it. That's it.

[Zywiec]

15. I'm sure a lot of trust fund babies have that same attitude

Doesn't matter whether you earned anything, as long as you win the prize.

[vanbean]

32. Call out the Moroni trumpets, he won.

[AspenRose]

3. Sure it's acceptable. It's a free country

:shrug:

We are free to disagree.

[piratefish08]

14. It sure doesn't seem like it based on the number OF DUers who have been exiled

to Freeperland this morning.

[Orsino]

4. The worth of such a judgment should always depend on the reasoning involved.

Even if I'm troubled, I'm not of the opinion that our wars must automatically disqualify him.

[zeemike]

16. What is not often said is that the peace prize does not depend

necessarily on what is actually done, because often peace is more about attitude than substance.
If you create an atmosphere that allows peace to break out it is a great accomplishment.

[Buzz Clik]

5. Perhaps a letter to Miss Manners is in order.

[Democracyinkind]

6. What's the point of a discussion board if everyone has the same opinion?

read, learn, think, change minds or change yours. It works for me.

[elocs]

11. Well, on this discussion board if you do not agree with the majority or popular opinion

you are simply labeled as a freeper. That will be very evident today.

[stray cat]

7. Absolutely - many members of the GOP agree with you

and some people on the left clearly want world peace before giving it to anyone. I do want to know who earned it this year - since clearly if Obama did not there is someone deserving people have in mind.

[el_bryanto]

12. Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai of Zimbabwe possibly

Certainly he was considered in the running, and his record extends a bit longer than Obamas.

Bryant

[Tansy_Gold]

8. It's N-O-B-E-L, not Noble.

[el_bryanto]

13. I apologize for my poor spelling and carelessness

[KittyWampus]

9. For some posters such as yourself, a negative attitude towards ANYTHING Obama accomplishes nge

is totally expected.

[el_bryanto]

17. Actually I support a lot of what he has done; I'm just dissapointed in a few areas

Civil Liberties and the weak performance on Healthcare - and in fairness, most of the healthcare weakness has to be laid at the feet of Congress.

Bryant

[Nye Bevan]

10. Yes. And I am sure Obama himself concurs.

Fortunately he is not the type to rest on his laurels. Winning this prize that he has not yet truly earned will be a huge incentive to him to achieve things that actually do deserve the prize. The very last thing he would want would be to go down in history as the undeserving recipient of the Nobel Peace prize. I have every confidence that he will end up as a highly deserving Nobel laureate.

[LiberalArkie]

18. It is totally acceptable. DUer's should be free thinkers able to accept a person

who thought GWB was the greatest pres in the world or that Jimmy Carter was. Liberals or Democrats should be able to accept anyone as they are. If not, then what is the difference between us and the conservatives who have to be told how to think.

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. OH yeah...very very acceptable.

[Toasterlad]

20. It's Acceptable for a DUer to Believe Whatever They Wish.

They're only prohibited from expressing certain beliefs by DU rules. Last I checked, it was okay to express your disapproval that a man currently engaged in two wars and, apparently, contemplating a third, should be awarded a peace award.

[closeupready]

27. Yes, exactly.

n/t

[yodoobo]

21. Everyone is entitled to be wrong

As long as they get behind him and support him and the things he is doing for country (indeed our world), then I don't care how they privately feel.

Its when they get on progressive boards and fight against him, thats where there is a problem.

[el_bryanto]

22. Ah so they are allowed to disagree with him if they keep there mouths shut around here?

Is that it? Or did I misunderstand?

Bryant

[yodoobo]

31. Look at the DU policy -

Its a progressive board.


There is plenty of places on the web for the other side.

[el_bryanto]

33. OK - first of all there's a fair argument to be made that Obama isn't that progressive

Secondly you don't have to be a freeper to make that argument.

Bryant

[bvar22]

44. I reserve the right to fight against any policy I disagree with.

If Obama's goals are:

*to expand the WARS

*to give MORE taxpayer money to Wall Street

*to sign a Health Care Bill that will channel $BILLIONS to the For Profit Health Insurance Industry

*to further INCREASE Military Spending

*to expand Free Trade

*to increase H1B Visas

*to protect Bush era War Criminals

*to renig on his promise to renegotiate NAFTA

*to shelve EFCA

*to shelve Equal Rights and Equal Protections for EVERYONE (no exceptions)

*to continue Bush policies on Habeus and other extra-constitutional powers of the Unitary Executive

Then NO.
I won't be supporting him on these issues.
I WILL be opposing him.
:hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Yes It's Acceptable. There's Nothing Technically In The Rules About Not Being Allowed To Be Stupid.

[el_bryanto]

24. Thank God for that n/t

[Robb]

25. It's the only reason I'm even still here. nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

26. Quite a relief for you, I imagine nt

[Toasterlad]

30. +1

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

36. [phone] / -4678214 * 3.1458290

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Sure! Without Stupid People Here I'd Have No One To Be Legitimately Snarky To!

And hell... What fun could I have here then? :hi:

[arcadian]

40. Youch! That's gotta sting.

+1

[flvegan]

41. +100000

[SidneyCarton]

28. Depending on the reasons why, sure.

I think the award may have been a bit premature, but that is the problem of the Norwegian committee, remember, Peace Prize winners aren't chosen by angels or anointed by Gods.

[Ganja Ninja]

29. The prize went to Obama but the credit for it should go to the people who voted for him.

We are the reason for the change. :patriot: Congratulations everyone! :toast:

[Fading Captain]

34. I think it's a bizarre choice

Obama's rhetoric is different than Bush's. But foreign policy actions are not those of a "peace prize" winner.

[DainBramaged]

37. Just another reason for Democrats to hate themselves

He got the Nobel prize? What about Hillary??? Kucinich deserves SOMETHING? He hasn't been in office long enough grouse grouse grumble harrumph harrumph.

[Swamp Rat]

38. Other: The prize is for the American People

However, the work has only just begun.

Time to undo the damage done by the fascists who drove this country to the edge of the proverbial cliff.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. Sure it's acceptable.

And it's acceptable for me to think that DUer is a worthless piece of shit who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

[frogmarch]

42. Totally Acceptable, as long as

s/he doesn't write posts cutting him to shreds.

[anigbrowl]

43. Sure. It hink it's a bad idea, and he should have declined

Not because I don't like him or approve of what he's doing - I do, very much. but he's less than 1/4 way through a first term, and many of his initiatives have yet to bear fruit. The prize ought generally to be given for accomplishments rather than goals, and it's only going to weigh him down politically - not to mention every right-winger out there is now going to dismiss the peace prize and internationalism in general as something bad and part of an international commie conspiracy or so. I guarantee you the Secret Service is going to be a lot busier in the coming weeks :-(

[bvar22]

45. You know, I'm having trouble finding a reason to get involved.

This is an honorary award given by a private organization.
They can do whatever they want for whatever reason they want.

This will have no Real World effect on anything that really matters.
It is another symbolic issue that is sure to waste a lot of time, anguish, and bandwith on DU, like the Congress wasting time on Joe Wilson (punk).

If the Fan Club wants to have a parade...I'm OK with that.
:party:

If the Anti-WAR contingent wants to use this to highlight opposition to The War...more power to them.
:patriot:

Since this doesn't directly affect anything worth debating, I'm going to steer clear of any threads hyping this non-issue.