What did he do to deserve it?

[kentuck]

He gave the world hope. Not just this country, but the world. The world was extremely nervous with the paranoid and maniacal Bush and Cheney in charge. They were as relieved as many American citizens when Barack Obama won the election. He had spoken to huge crowds in Europe and they were inspired by his words. He went to Cairo and spoke to the Muslim world. He was honest and truthful with them. They respected that. He agreed to talk with Iran, rather than just issue threats.

Also, most of the world leaders understand the situation he inherited in Iraq and Afghanistan and are willing to give him more time to resolve the wars than are many of the President's supporters in this country. They do not see him as a war-monger.

They also give great credit for putting America back on track with diplomacy and a new hope for the future. I can think of no one that deserves it more.

[shadowknows69]

1. Hope in one hand and shit in the other........

[Craftsman]

2. Bingo, call me back when he has done something.

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Okay, Michael Steele.

[Robyn66]

6. Yes I'm said McCain lost too

seriously? :banghead:

[Drunken Irishman]

3. And hope in the other?

[safeinOhio]

20. Hey Drunk

I hate to say it in the 21century, but some people will never give O'bama credit, only because he is half Irish.

[kentuck]

4. Without hope...

there may be no paper to wipe with after the act.

[blogslut]

7. Sigh

Okay. You stew in those juices. Tell us when you're done.

[Fumesucker]

11. Shadowknows is having a *very* hard time of it personally..

I've read some of his posts, it's hard to have hope when you're scraping rock bottom.

But of course, it's so fucking progressive to mock those who are having a hard time.

[blogslut]

13. Look, I really don't want to compare hard luck stories on a public message board

Let's just say, rock bottom isn't the realm of just one person.

I'm not mocking anyone. I simply refuse to allow someone else's bad vibes funk me up.

[Fumesucker]

14. Sure you were mocking..

Or at least it certainly looked that way from up here in the cheap seats..

[blogslut]

15. Think what you want to think

Your opinion is yours.

[shadowknows69]

27. delete dupe

[shadowknows69]

28. Thanks Fume, but not necessary.

As bad as shit is no anonymous person on a webboard is going to be important enough to me to send me over the edge if they don't "like" me anymore.

[blogslut]

30. I like you

I just don't like what you said. If I didn't like you, I would say nothing.

[Robyn66]

8. Only it doesn't stink so much when you smear hope on the wall

:hide:

[Dawgs]

Why do you have shit in your hand?

Did you pull it out of your brain?

Bye-bye freeper.

[hyphenate]

17. I don't think your response was aimed at the OP,

was it? It was for a response to it.

[shadowknows69]

29. Yeah, ok I'm a freeper. Damn cover blown after 5 years hard infiltration.

[RetroLounge]

43. Freeper? Really?

:rofl:

RL

[SidneyCarton]

12. well, when you insist on crapping all over everything (the floor, this thread, etc...)

someone has to pick it up.

[JuniperLea]

22. Sorry your guy McCain didn't win...

but Jesus, man... expectations are far too high in this climate of financial doom... we're all going to suffer... time to buck the fuck up.

You aren't alone. We all need to learn patience and selflessness if we're going to get through this. It's going to get worse, you know. How are some going to deal with that when all they can do is whine now... Jesus... you still have computer access... you aren't completely on the skids...

Maybe it's because I drive through Downtown Los Angeles' skid row every single day, and I've personally witnessed the steady and horrific growth in the homeless population first hand... but I have very little sympathy for anyone who is doing better than these people are and THINK they are so fucking bad off... and all they do is fucking whine... there are whole families in tents... children leaving for school in the morning, from tents, unclean... wearing the same clothes they wore for God knows how many days... and I see no lunch sacks or pails among them.

Anyone who is still posting on DU is lucky as fuck... don't forget that.

[cliffordu]

26. Orly!!! Howzithangin'??

[lib2DaBone]

58. LOL.... no doubt..

[gratuitous]

9. This is indeed a measure of how far the U.S. had fallen under Bush

Refloating a sinking ocean liner is no mean feat, and the trust that President Obama has re-built in nine months is nothing short of remarkable. The difference in our relations with the rest of the world is the difference between the bitter cold of deep winter and the first 70 degree day of the spring. Better days are ahead, for sure, but that first time you go out and leave your jacket in the closet is beyond price.

For the freepwits, nitwits, dimwits and dumbshits scoring at home, that makes the Nobel Prize score Democratic presidents and presidential candidates 4, Republicans 1.

[Warpy]

10. He just admitted it wasn't for his accomplishments

but for the hope this country would take a far different direction in the future than it has in the past.

Very, very classy of him.

[get the red out]

16. Excellent post, thank you

The Republicans are loosing their minds over this and I love it. This is a great thing for this country, for Democrats, and for a more progressive future.

We can't have a peaceful future handed to us, it requires work. This President has begun the work, if we throw up our hands after 9 months, are so needy of instant gratification that we end up loosing elections for it, I guarantee you the future won't have the slightest possibility of being brighter.

What award would Romney, Palin, Pawlenty be getting for "peace" as they justified bombing Iran and God knows what other countries? We can't afford that, seriously.

Congratulations to the President, I am so happy he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I am happy for America, we might now have hope of being a real participant in the world rather than the most dreaded beast the planet knows.

[JuniperLea]

18. 50% of the people I know are having a very horrible time

Funny thing is, those who are the worst off... out of a job for over a year... foreclosure... sick family members with no insurance... are the happiest about this.

I'm just glad the world is looking at us differently now... this is a good sign that people are thinking of peace and communication as a hopeful alternative to hate, saber rattling, drawing lines in the sand, and keeping twitchy fingers poised over nuclear war buttons.

[Igel]

33. It's vicarious fulfillment.

They have a hero. In some cases, he's a symbol of them and their cohort. He is their hero, and his glory is their glory. Conversely, any insult to him is an insult to them.

Certain cultural traits predispose a person to this kind of behavior, which is very much not in keeping with Enlightenment, rationalist behavior.

That path leads in one of several directions, none good. His ultimate apotheosis, a nasty thing in a democracy. He can be idolized, in spite of his short-comings, leading to a further split and balkanization in US society. Both of these can lead to incredibly stupid policy and political decisions. Or he can come to be seen as having clay feet, leading to disillusionment--a nasty thing, but the better of the options, even if it means that his actual accomplishments become underrated.

One immediate consequence when the "leader" is a deity and the people are so driven by vicarious honor is the attempt to impose blasphemy laws. Western civilization mostly lost such things under rationalism. Personally, my God, I think, is strong enough that he can take criticism so I don't have to cry that he's "violated" (like some two-bit prostitute) every time he's dissed. Some members of other religions, and even some minor Xian groups, can't bear to have their idol denigrated because it humiliates not their deity but the people. When such behavior is focused on a man, it ranges from the boorish to the fascist (whatever the political system).

[kctim]

19. Doesn't matter

if you think he deserved it or not, the truth of the matter is that he won it and it can only aide him, not harm him, in accomplishing things in the future.
Who knows, maybe it will help in getting something done that all you nay-sayers want done.

[safeinOhio]

23. One thing it will accomplish,

We'll get to see Glenn Beck cry like a little school girl.:toast:

[jacko_be]

21. Obamameter

Mr obama made 515 promises
he did =47
he made compromises =12
delayed = 12
he works on =116
not even started = 321
lied =7
total = 515
but he hasn't closed guantanamo, and made a law that messages, pictures, general info about torturing in guantanamo is forbidden
to reach the usa, also he didn't want to meat the dalai lama (probably the least aggressive man on the world), and he didn't do anything for KYOTO,
Before I forget we the belgians still have some nukes of you guys, maybe you could please come and get them back, would be nice, Oh and we really loved that Obama was elected,
god bless america,
big greatzz from europe
p.s.: if possible please fighting over the world, every time you guys fight, you kill you're own economy and ours... and if you could fix catherina damage.... we are a Little bit disappointed about the free world
have a nice day

[Robyn66]

24. HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE LESS THAN 9 MONTHS!!!!!!!!

:mad: :nuke:

[jacko_be]

35. you are right (BUT)

only nine months but we know now at the end of the nine months he already kept his promise 47 times
so let's take this as a standard, so this gives us 4 years = 48 months
9months *5 = 45 ... that will do so he kept his promise 47 now let's multiply by 5 =235
so this gives us a the end he will have 235 of 515 promises ...
this is only 46.63106%
... don't be made @ me
GOD BLESS YOU ALL

[Robyn66]

44. Well life doesn't conform to formulas

Maybe not everything he promised will be fulfilled EXACTLY how he promised it, maybe somethings CAN'T be fulfilled do you think he is a liar bent on deceiving the American people and screwing them over?

I firmly believe he is going to do everything he possibly can to deliver on everything he promised. It won't be fast enough or complete enough for some people but no one could do it well enough for everyone. Its so easy to sit back and complain but think about your dream president in this situation and really honestly assess if you think in this world they could do any better right now. I don't think they could.

He has already done one hell of a lot of good in the time he has been in office. Maybe not enough to fit your schedule but I think he is off to a damn good start.

[jacko_be]

46. in answer

No i really don't think he is a liar far from it
or that he is deceiving his people or screwing them
My god no finally there is again a good man in the white house.
but was does a promise mean ?
oh and another thing, do you know that they want to take
another curentie for the oil ? instead off dollar for a barrel ?
and maybe a good start but in my calculations a rather slow start

have a nice we

[Robyn66]

51. I'm sorry are you saying we are going to invade Iran for oil?

I don't see that happening.

[jacko_be]

53. no lol

i'm saying that opec will stop working with usa
but will start to work with russia, france, china, and brazillie
for the general sales
(lurn dutch and read this http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/3424/economische-crisis/article/detail/1011111/2009/10/06/Internationaal-complot-om-Amerikaanse-dollar-en-economie-te-breken.dhtml)

[Robyn66]

57. I'm sorry I didn't understand what you meant

I must admit I don't know anything about that

[jacko_be]

60. the error is mine

my english is really bad
it sais that the countries i named
wil join forces to change the currentie
what is now world wide $ for oil.
they want to make a stronger value dan $
they say it could be the euro...
greatzz

[greennina]

31. So he kept his word less than 10% of the time...

I don't really care one way or the other about that. He's just a politician so that's what they do. What we do care about is his lack of honesty when it comes to health care. He made promises that he hasn't kept wrt this issue that is the most important issue. Instead, all we have are empty words rather than health care. Where is my health care?

[Robyn66]

32. In case you haven't noticed its being worked on

This isn't a perfect world. He won't be able to deliver on EVERYTHING EXACTLY how he wanted to. Guess what, NO ONE could.

I am pretty pissed off that he didn't meet with the Dali Lama this week but I don't think for a minute he is a liar who has played us all for fools to get the presidency. Why don't you lobby your representatives and Senators to represent you on Health Care? That's what I am doing. This isn't a dictatorship. Its not like he can snap his fingers and get it done that way.

Do you think Clinton or Kucinich or Nader would be doing any better right now? Do you think they would be facing any more support from congress?

Its much easier to sit back and malign the president!

[jacko_be]

40. in answer

look he didn't say he was going to try , he made a promise ...
not sure about america but here in europe people don't make a promise
if they can't deliver, people lose there faith if you don't hold
you're promises
have a nice day

[Robyn66]

45. Did he promise within the first 9 months of his presidency

everything would be accomplished? Because I didn't hear that speech.

[jacko_be]

47. what does a promise means ?

xxx

[Robyn66]

49. Tell me what time frame he gave in his promise

[jacko_be]

56. time fraime

remeber this? : when i become president I promise to change (healthcare)
president is 4 year no ? when do you think he should do it ?
have a nice day

[kentuck]

39. Where did you get those numbers??

Sounds like Mark Levin or Michael Weiner?

[jacko_be]

42. here you will find it

No not at all
Belgium as a country follows really
hard the steps of obama and yes
there is freedom of speech
and politic parties may not
intervene with newspapers
all newspapers are independent
http://hln.be/hln/nl/2002/Dossier-Obama/article/detail/1013284/2009/10/09/Amerikaanse-president-Obama-krijgt-Nobelprijs-voor-Vrede.dhtml
this is the link its on the right side off the page in the center
it says obama meter

have a nice day

[scheming daemons]

48. 47-7-12 is a pretty good record for 9 months

47 kept
7 broken
12 compromises


Not too shabby at this stage, if you ask me.

[Robyn66]

50. And really the Broken ones on the Obamameter site

I haven't been there in a while but if I recall, most of those weren't promises HE broke, they were things he couldn't get cooperation from Congress on. There is a HUGE differnce between breaking a promise and not getting cooperation in my mind anyway.

[jacko_be]

52. no off course not

so he took care of 66 promises
and he failed 7+12
28.78% allmost one on three ?
have a nice day

[scheming daemons]

54. Better "winning" percentage than any President in my lifetime

[Robyn66]

55. Well I guess you can complain about the President

if you think he is worse than what preceded him. I wonder how much good Bush did over his Presidency? Or what McCain/Palin would have done for the United States.

[jacko_be]

59. lol

Oh no, don't worry you can't have worse than bush.
when he was elected and the news came to europe
we tought it was a practical joke no, no obama does
better much better,
but sayingm: well at least he does less bad (or more good)
should be : he is good : like clinton he was good

[Sinistrous]

25. I think Obama's Cairo speech was sufficient to warrant the award.

And then there was his outreach to Russia, scrapping that provocative anti-missile system in eastern Europe, his outreach to all countries and their leaders - even though they don't engage in policies we agree with, ...

Anybody else have input on this?

[Taverner]

34. From Daily KOS:

30+ Reasons Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
by BoBo2020
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I can’t believe I am hearing fellow Kossacks complain about Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I have read comment after comment of hand-wringing and worry about how it’s too soon and he hasn’t accomplished enough.

Come on folks – where have you been? He's addressed everything from climate change and women's health to nuclear proliferation and torture.

Does he have a lot left to do? Absolutely. The Republicans left the place in tatters. But don’t pretend for a moment that Obama hasn’t accomplished astonishing things.

In this “short time”, President Obama has completely overhauled foreign policy.

President Obama has restored America’s prominence in international diplomacy.

President Obama has reached out to the Muslim world ion a way that was previously unimagined.

Obama has stated "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges" to which the Nobel prize's nominating committee responded: "For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman,"

* BoBo2020's diary :: ::
*

Here is a brief list of some of the reasons President Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize: (As a side note, it took me less than 45 minutes to compile this into a diary. It took me longer to fix my html errors than to find a short list of Nobel Prize winning accomplishments by our President. I am sure I have missed MANY things.)

3/18/8 – Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations

7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin

11/6/8 – Obama’s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.

12/1/8 – Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.

1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

1/22/9 – Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay

1/22/9 – Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies

1/22/9 – Prohibited use of torture

1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons

1/23/9 – Lifted “Global Gag Rule” on international health groups

1/26/9 – Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles

1/26/9 – Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change

1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter “Fair Pay” Act

2/1/9 – Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP

2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.

2/24/9 – Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health

2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide

2/27/9 – Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq

4/1/9 – Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.

4/1/9 – Enhanced U.S. – China relations

4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies

4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies

4/5/9 – Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation

4/13/9 – Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance

4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"

4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.

5/8/9 – Proposed International Affaires budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help stabilize a crisis situation.

6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"

8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison

9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through repurposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/9/791412/-30+-Reasons-Obama-deserves-the-Nobel-Peace-Prize

[Robyn66]

36. But I still don't have my pony ;)

Thank you for posting this!!!!!! People need to see this and remember!

[Taverner]

38. From the US, it may look like he hasn't done much. But from the world's perspective

Different view entirely

[Robyn66]

41. Yes they do

and they see us in a much different light now that Bush is gone. And like someone else said the Cairo speech was historic and I am sure a significant reason.

[jacko_be]

62. hmm

well it's his job
1) Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace
usa started the war over there
2)Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay
still not closed
3)Prohibited use of torture
no he made a law that no message, picture, or prove may ever reacht the usa
4)Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health
how much did he put in the army ?
5)Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons
yes now they are privatised and still in Poland
6)Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide
and didn't sign KYOTO
7)Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq
Yes and how far is he now ?
8)Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies
logic he's cleaning up bush mess
9)Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies
because usa army is getting broke and he needs money
10)Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.
that's 15 years later than the rest of the world

[spanone]

37. you are right and fuck all those who can't be proud of our President....

[tomm2thumbs]

61. Attacking someone receiving an award...hmmm, very Kanye of everyone doing it

He neither lobbied for or expected the award, was entirely gracious in his acceptance, and those that want to jump up onstage and try to interrupt his honor are doing as much as Kanye West did recently to another award recipient - and looking just as badly.

But if you enjoy it, by all means. Wallow.