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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:06 PM
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Does anybody here have a clue where things stand in regards to health care reform?
I'm just wondering?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:08 PM
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1. Everyday I see different stories expecting either the best or the worst.
I think everyday we DUers should fight like the Dems will totally cave and ask the republicans to write their own plan for them to pass.

If we fight with that mentality we might get the really good plan out of the deal
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:09 PM
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2. Nobody does
because of the massive disinfomation campaigns by the health insurance people and conservative stink tanks. It's why Congress's approval rating continues on the way down.

They'd better get off their duffs and announce something soon. People are getting sick at what they're seeing as a bunch of dithering.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:09 PM
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3. The chatter is as reliable as a high school Twitter channel
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:10 PM
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4. Not me. So just ignore anything I might post on the subject. Do you?
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:12 PM
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8. No
Just when I think I have a glimpse of a clue, it vanishes.

I will probably find the Higgs boson first.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:25 PM
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15. Ditto. I just can't keep up. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:11 PM
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5. No. nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:11 PM
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6. It's a giant clusterfuck
I swear, I've never seen a worse communications or message operation in modern day politics.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:28 PM
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17. You nailed it. nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:30 PM
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18. I'm amazed that a group of guys
Who ran a come from behind campaign with constant barrages of all kinds of crazy accusations can't manage a simple legislative battle in the media.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:34 PM
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19. I'm not sure that you can blame Obama or his people.
There's a lot of "media" out there putting out a lot of bullshit.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:38 PM
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20. They were putting out a lot of bullshit during the campaign as well
The fact of the matter is, he really hasn't come out and said the following must be in any bill I sign and the following things are off the table, as such he has allowed these outlets to fill in the holes.

During the campaign, he didn't allow holes to exist.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:11 PM
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7. I do.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:13 PM
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9. In the same day, within the same hour, there will be 2 conflicting stories published
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 04:14 PM by Solly Mack
and by days end there will be 2 more stories published clarifying the earlier articles....and none of them really say anything.

So, no. :)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:13 PM
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10. No. Constant conflicting info keeps my head spinning. On the plus side, the lack of
feeling that we have it in the bag keeps me writing emails to the conservadems and calling my state Senators. (Snowe and Collins)
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:15 PM
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11. Glad I'm not the only one.
I've given up trying to figure it out. I have whiplash.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:17 PM
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13. Just keep hounding them to do the right thing and hopefully when we finally hear
the truth of what is going on, they will have actually done it. :D
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:16 PM
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12. Yes. They're Negotiating.
Meaning different people will be talking to each other about various aspects of the health care bill, right up and until the final vote.

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:18 PM
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14. If U R pro-reform, don't get your hopes up. If U R a blue dog, go ahead and reserve the ball room.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:27 PM
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16. It's now in the hands of a bunch of rich old white men in a smoke-filled room
Or something like that.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:29 PM
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21. here's where i am at this point:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 02:58 AM
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22. Asking again? nt
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